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by **parchpea** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:27 pm

Benitez had the fans behind him from day one on the back of the fact people wanted the previous manager out. Hodgson has come in without that support given many still think Rafa should still be our manager. The Spaniard replaced a Frenchman where love was lost but the Englishman got in our beds whilst the Spaniard still lay there with his glass of milk ,dreaming of a priest of a mountain of sugar, and a book of facts on his chest :lookaround

by **dawson99** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:28 pm

parchpea wrote:Benitez had the fans behind him from day one on the back of the fact people wanted the previous manager out. Hodgson has come in without that support given many still think Rafa should still be our manager. The Spaniard replaced a Frenchman where love was lost but the Englishman got in our beds whilst the Spaniard still lay there with his glass of milk ,dreaming of a priest of a mountain of sugar, and a book of facts on his chest

Really? I seem to remember earlier this year almost everyone wanting our ex manager gone?

by **dawson99** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:05 pm

When Rafa left (whether you liked it or not, not the issue) no one else wanted the job. we have heard it since. Now Roy, who was loved by EVERYONE at Fulham, and was themanager of the year, stepped up. He had the guts wheneveryone else in world football turned us down. Now if that isnt the Liverpool way I don't know what is.

Yeah he's gonna make mistakes along the way, but I don't care. He came to us when no one else would, he showed the bottle and love for the club when no one else did. You can not like him as a manager as much as you want, but when you start the personal insults you're showing your true colours, and that isn't on.

For my part, I'll stay away from your inter/Rafa thread. I've been childish, immature as well, but i'll stop. Rafa was class for us, but then he lost it, now hes gone, im gonna move on.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:09 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:Roy has just won the LMA, he has a reputation to lose as well.

David Moyes has won it three times but hasnt won a single trophey in 9 years at Everton should he have been considered for the Liverpool job just because he's won the Fergie Wine Club award?

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:19 pm

Yes Daws I have been drinking ....but when I am sober in th e morning I will still think he needs to go ...I will just be far more eloquent in typing my observations .....

by **Thommo's perm** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:21 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Yes Daws I have been drinking ....but when I am sober in th e morning I will still think he needs to go ...I will just be far more eloquent in typing my observations .....

Dont worry mate youre coming over loud and clear
:eyebrow

by **Ciggy** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:21 pm

Atlast someone saying it as it is !!!

from Football365:

Although there is an obvious logic in under-pressure Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson drawing attention to the deficiencies of the previous Anfield incumbent, prolonging the recent war of words with Rafael Benitez will only serve to undermine his own position.

Judge me after ten league games, said Hodgson after Liverpool's disappointing start to the season. Ten games in and Liverpool are 13th, 13 points off top spot and considerably closer to the drop zone. No wonder Hodgson has seen fit to place the blame for Liverpool's ultimately depressing season squarely on his predecessor's shoulders - particularly in a week when he will meet the club's new owners for talks on the future.

Hodgson's reaction is a natural one - but he is treading a fine line. Although he may well have some pertinent points to make about the previous managerial regime, complaining about them ad nauseum can only carry you so far. Hodgson has to be careful about the message he is trying to peddle - as he is in danger at times of sounding defeatist. He may have inherited a difficult position at a club in crisis, but he got the position on the basis that he would be able to make a change. With new owners watching very closely, Hodgson cannot afford to give the impression that he cannot cope.

Hodgson also has to be mindful that many Liverpool fans still revere Rafael Benitez and have been underwhelmed by the club's choice of successor. Hodgson's carping about Benitez always runs the risk of raising their heckles at a delicate time. He must also be mindful that his criticism will only draw a scathing and potentially damaging reaction from Benitez. Many will argue that the Spaniard should be focusing on Inter Milan, but he nevertheless has the right to respond to Hodgson's barbs. Benitez, despite his exit, enjoyed some notable successes at Anfield and in his overall career to date, so Hodgson would do well to avoid any slanging match that ends with fans and media focusing on a comparison of managerial records.

In a related point, Hodgson should also be aware that drawing attention to the contentious issue of Benitez's record in the transfer market is a dangerous game for a manager who has spent the guts of £10million on Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen.

So, having instigated the spat for his own ends, Hodgson would do well to see that it ends here. Benitez may well be casting a shadow over Hodgson's position at Anfield, but in the end, NESV and John Henry are not in a position to sack the Spaniard.

by **dawson99** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:42 pm

dawson99 wrote:When Rafa left (whether you liked it or not, not the issue) no one else wanted the job. we have heard it since. Now Roy, who was loved by EVERYONE at Fulham, and was themanager of the year, stepped up. He had the guts wheneveryone else in world football turned us down. Now if that isnt the Liverpool way I don't know what is.

Yeah he's gonna make mistakes along the way, but I don't care. He came to us when no one else would, he showed the bottle and love for the club when no one else did. You can not like him as a manager as much as you want, but when you start the personal insults you're showing your true colours, and that isn't on.

For my part, I'll stay away from your inter/Rafa thread. I've been childish, immature as well, but i'll stop. Rafa was class for us, but then he lost it, now hes gone, im gonna move on.

im serious here, trying to get the thread back on topic (Im actually really trying to behave)

what do you think about this?

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:50 pm

I reckon theres enough room for a couple more beauts in Roy's Clown mobile
It may not be the " Happy Bus " but it has a driver as well as a passenger now :laugh:

by **Thommo's perm** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:52 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:I reckon theres enough room for a couple more beauts in Roy's Clown mobile
It may not be the " Happy Bus " but it has a driver as well as a passenger now

I get it now mate.
You win
Mods encouragung you and censoring me
Pathetic

by **supersub** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:52 pm

any posts that have nothing to do with Roy Hodgson will be deleted....persistant offenders will be carded...if you want to talk about Rafa or Jose then go to the other sections set aside for them......

by **mart** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:55 pm

supersub wrote:any posts that have nothing to do with Roy Hodgson will be deleted....persistant offenders will be carded...if you want to talk about Rafa or Jose then go to the other sections set aside for them......

by **supersub** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:55 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:I reckon theres enough room for a couple more beauts in Roy's Clown mobile
It may not be the " Happy Bus " but it has a driver as well as a passenger now

I get it now mate.
You win
Mods encouragung you and censoring me
Pathetic

If you talk about Roy fine ...if you talk about rafa in a relevant way to roy fine..if you talk about rafa then put in the benitez thread in world wide...simple...

shake the brain cells in your perm thommo

by **dawson99** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:58 pm

if you call Roy a nasty twisted old man fine
if you call Roy a clown fine

anyway, last time, i honestly would like views... (this is my way of trying for a truce of sorts)

When Rafa left (whether you liked it or not, not the issue) no one else wanted the job. we have heard it since. Now Roy, who was loved by EVERYONE at Fulham, and was themanager of the year, stepped up. He had the guts wheneveryone else in world football turned us down. Now if that isnt the Liverpool way I don't know what is.

Yeah he's gonna make mistakes along the way, but I don't care. He came to us when no one else would, he showed the bottle and love for the club when no one else did. You can not like him as a manager as much as you want, but when you start the personal insults you're showing your true colours, and that isn't on.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:02 pm

Only my second card in 6 years .....I think my last one was when Houllier was manager .....similarities anyone

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