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by **tubby** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:24 pm

Some of the those quotes are seriously cringeworthy mart. The Northampton one especially.

by **supersub** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:28 pm

Big Niall wrote:I doubt many of you watch the news but there was a still photo of obama looking at a womans and it looked terrible,

what the ar.se or the picture :laugh:

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:28 pm

Once again here's that picture that has so enraged the fans who believe there is fucking nothing remotely capable of creating this much unbridled joy ......
especially given our current predicament

by **Big Niall** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:32 pm

supersub wrote:
Big Niall wrote:I doubt many of you watch the news but there was a still photo of obama looking at a womans and it looked terrible,

what the ar.se or the picture

by **Big Niall** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:37 pm

burjennio wrote:
Big Niall wrote:the people going on about the photo are fools.

what is your claim? that he was happy with a derby defeat? it is more of a grimace.

I doubt many of you watch the news but there was a still photo of obama looking at a womans and it looked terrible, luckily there was a camera there that showed what actually happened and it was totally different, he was helping somebody up a step. still pictures are misleading.

Hodgeson might be the wrong man but stop looking for spasticated reasons to get rid of him, what next? if he is pictured with a blue tie he is an everton supporter?

grow the fukk up morons

Jesus you have one hell of a chip on your shoulder fella, and considering this thread is 200 pages of you shooting your mouth of about the last coach I think you should try to be a little more objective and a little less hypocritical

oh wise one, how do you recommend I "back up" that the picture is a grimmace and not a smile?

Also, since you are into "backing up" things, can you give a link to one time I criticised benitez over a picture or claimed that he was happy with a defeat?

the ball is in your court champ.

by **tubby** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:39 pm

Look at Sarcozy, he's loving it.

by **Igor Zidane** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:40 pm

Now i'm sober , we are still sh!t . I hate saying it still ,but he simply has to go . We cannot afford to be hanging round in the relegation zone for any longer . Get rid now, appoint Kenny until the end of the season and see what happens from there. If it's the quality of the players that's the problem , we'll soon see under a stronger manager like kenny . Bet you a pound to a pinch of salt that it's not the quality of the players though . It's the tacticts and formation , it's the confidence or lack of . It's the aggression or lack of . Finally it's the mediocre manager and his 35 year old tried and trusted methods . Total and utter :censored:

football and no umf whatsoever along with players who clearly have no faith in the manager or his ability .

by **red till i die!!** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:41 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Once again here's that picture that has so enraged the fans who believe there is fucking nothing remotely capable of creating this much unbridled joy ......
especially given our current predicament

that pic says it all and but didnt annoy me as much as the post interview.beggars belief what game he was watching but then again the amount of time he spent looking at his shoes,scratching his head and putting his face in his hands im surprised if he actually seen 10minutes of it.
either that or he is senile.

by **burjennio** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:53 pm

Big Niall wrote:
burjennio wrote:
Big Niall wrote:the people going on about the photo are fools.

what is your claim? that he was happy with a derby defeat? it is more of a grimace.

I doubt many of you watch the news but there was a still photo of obama looking at a womans and it looked terrible, luckily there was a camera there that showed what actually happened and it was totally different, he was helping somebody up a step. still pictures are misleading.

Hodgeson might be the wrong man but stop looking for spasticated reasons to get rid of him, what next? if he is pictured with a blue tie he is an everton supporter?

grow the fukk up morons

Jesus you have one hell of a chip on your shoulder fella, and considering this thread is 200 pages of you shooting your mouth of about the last coach I think you should try to be a little more objective and a little less hypocritical

oh wise one, how do you recommend I "back up" that the picture is a grimmace and not a smile?

Also, since you are into "backing up" things, can you give a link to one time I criticised benitez over a picture or claimed that he was happy with a defeat?

the ball is in your court champ.

Tell you what Mr Passive Aggressive, have a look back through this very thread, I was reading the last 60-70 pages today where you repeatedly slag off the last manager in a thread that has nothing to do with him. Im fairly confident other threads will be filled with similar sentiments from you also. Go back and look, anyone else can if they dont believe me. Then you call us all "fools" and tell us to "grow the f*ck up morons" yet no one has said anything negative to you. Then you have decided to tell everyone that the picture is wrong and that Hodgson isnt smiling

yet several of the guys on here saw him LIVE on the TV doing that very thing. Why do you feel you need to ram this crazy agenda down our throats at every opportunity? The mans gone now, the man that replaced him is doing a truly shocking job but that doesnt mean that it wasnt time for Rafa to leave, it simply means they picked the wrong man to succeed him. Apparantly your ego cant separate this fact and seem to thing you are somehow looking bad because of Hodgsons failings, so are constantly trying to tell us that all current woes are in fact, contrary to overwhelming evidence, opinion and common sense Rafael Benitez's fault. You are coming off like a really bad Lando impersonator, only without the humour. So Im simply asking again, please just let this Rafa thing go and getdown to sensible football points. No offense intended lad but Im sure Im not the only one your constant Rafa bashing is starting to annoy

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:54 pm

Lifted from The Liverpool Echo
ROY HODGSON steadfastly refused to accept that his Liverpool team was second best at Goodison Park yesterday.

Everton dominated the first 45 minutes of the 214th Merseyside derby where Tim Cahill’s sixth derby goal was scant reward for their possession and approach play.

The Blues scored a second goal shortly after half-time, then appeared content to sit back and defend their lead.

But the Reds boss rapped: “This was always going to be a difficult game, but I thought the team played well.

“In the second half that’s as good as I’ve seen a Liverpool team under my management play, that’s for sure.

“I think we suffered at the hands of an early onslaught which you invariably do here at Goodison, but towards the end of the first half we were starting to more than even the game out and in my opinion from what I saw we dominated the second half.

“I thought the shape of the team was good, I thought the quality of our passing and movement was good, but we didn’t score goals and Everton did.

“But I refuse unfortunately to sit here and accept that we were in any way outplayed or in any way inferior.”

When it was suggested that his team lacked confidence in one or two areas, Hodgson bit back: “I didn’t see a lack of confidence in the team. I’m prepared to answer all your questions and I’m prepared to accept that you tell me I and the team are all under pressure, I accept that.

“But I watched the performance and in the second half that’s as good as I’ve seen a Liverpool team under my management play, that’s for sure.
“I think it was a very, very good second half performance therefore I find it hard to accept that we need more confidence in the team.

“I thought we had plenty of ball in the second half and were camped out in their half and in their final third for long periods.

“We had quite a good spell towards the end of the first half and we didn’t start causing them problems during their early onslaught which is credit to them. They put us under a lot of pressure.

“I thought we caused them plenty of problems after that but you’re never going to get the really clear one-on-one goal chances when teams are defending a 2-0 lead.”

Hodgson also claimed that his side’s attempts to claim only their second League victory of the season had been dogged by misfortune.

“Paul Konchesky’s half block takes the ball past Martin Skrtel who would have been in an excellent blocking position as the ball came across the goal and deflected it into the onrunning Tim Cahill, so even that was slightly unfortunate,” he added “as of course was the fact that Arteta got hold of the ball so well with the outside of his foot for the second goal.

“It is obviously a problem that we are conceding goals but with the offensive type of line up that we have that’s always going to be a risk. We need to score goals to take the pressure off us.”

After the euphoria of Friday’s successful takeover and Saturday’s celebratory press briefings, the Reds boss admitted that result had brought the club back down to earth with a bump.

“This would have been the ideal opportunity to really turn things around on the back of the positive entry from the new owners and the way that’s been received by everyone,” said.
“To get a result and win the game would have been Utopia. But I can only go back to what I said and analyse the performance.

“The dream was that we would come here and on the back of new owners win the game.

“We had to play a game of football to do that and in my opinion the way we played the game was as good as I’ve seen us play this season. I can’t have any real qualms with my team in terms of the performance they gave.

“I can only hope that fair-minded people saw it the same way. It was unfortunate that such a good game of football - a credit to the Barclays Premier League - revolves around the fact that Liverpool didn’t win it.”

Despite finding his side in the bottom three of the Premier League, Hodgson refused to rule out a push for the top four.

“Have I written off the top four? Good question. Thirty games to go, 90 points to play for, we would have to start doing something special I suppose, but I wouldn’t write that off at the moment.

“It would take a really good run of four or five wins on the spin but I thought there were signs in the game today that the quality of the football was there and who knows, maybe we can get those four or five wins on the spin because that’s what it’s going to take.”

Hodgson also admitted that Fernando Torres desperately needed a goal.

The Spanish striker was largely anonymous again and the Reds boss added: “Fernando is going through a bad time. He needs a goal and his confidence is low, but I wouldn’t have said it was a question of too many lacking in confidence.

“People are playing under pressure. That’s the bottom line. We’ve taken six points from eight games and every game we don’t win the pressure builds up even more.

“That will affect people’s confidence, but I thought it was a sterling effort from the players especially after conceding the second goal so early, to give the second half performance they did.”

I apologise if this has been posted earlier ...but I felt it really portrays how completely out of touch the manager is with the mindset of the huge majority of Liverpool fans .... in summation there is quite some ridiculous sound bites in this interview, and I feel that sadly this will become his epitaph such is the statement it delivers .... a truly damming indictment of Hodgsons early tenure ,if he wishes to retain any remnants of respectability he should walk now .... and walk quickly

by **bunglemark2** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:02 pm

He's a bleedin' headcase is Roy. The man needs help. Mad as a box of frogs - completely hatstand.
Can we have him locked up ?

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:03 pm

Dominic King Liverpool Echo match report

HEY started with a huddle but ended as a disorganised, dispirited, demoralised muddle to give their new owners an idea of the enormous task which lies ahead.

John W Henry and Tom Werner spoke with great pragmatism when they arrived on Merseyside this weekend, making it clear that the job of restoring Liverpool to the summit of English football will not be completed overnight.

Maybe the club’s new owners had seen a DVD compilation of their new club’s performances this season; if they hadn’t the chastening, harrowing 90 minutes they had the misfortune of sitting through at Goodison Park yesterday gave an idea of the depths to which the Reds have fallen.

Talk about a classic case of what is given with one hand is taken away with another; while a certain sense of satisfaction can be taken from the fact Liverpool’s financial house is coming back under order, the playing side of affairs remains in utter disarray.

Defeats can be taken at the home of your oldest rivals if you know that your team has fought ferociously, carved out chances and exerted huge amounts of pressure only to yield to a moment of brilliance or a performance that could not be contained.

Full credit to Everton. Nobody is disputing they were the better side, playing cohesively, fighting for one another and deserving the goals which first Tim Cahill and then Mikel Arteta gleefully smashed in but, quite simply, it was made easy for them.

The contrast could not have been more stark. Though Liverpool looked as if they meant business when gathering in a group before kick-off, within two-and-a-half minutes the unity started to unravel as Jamie Carragher and Fernando Torres locked horns.

Carragher’s obvious dismay at a short ball was greeted with the sight of Torres gesturing to his team-mate to ‘shush’ and, instantly, the cracks the huddle had tried to hide started to become exposed again and the only way to describe what ensued was completely and utterly woeful.

At times during an opening 45 minutes that left Liverpudlians sinking further and further into their seats out of pure embarrassment, the passing from Roy Hodgson’s men resembled a drunken game of pin the tail on the donkey.

Balls missed their intended target with such regularity that it actually became something of a surprise when a Red shirt found another Red shirt; other than dealing with a routine header from Torres, Tim Howard could have had the afternoon off.

Utterly woeful. And, more importantly, completely unacceptable. The first thing you need to do against David Moyes’ Everton is match their commitment and endeavour, to try and run them off the park before you can earn the right to play.

“This press conference was always going to be a very difficult press conference for me to handle unless we won the game,” said Hodgson, as he attempted to explain the reason why Liverpool have now gone almost two months since their only Premier League win.
“We didn’t win the game and therefore people will read a lot of things into the performance and my attempt here is to juggle things – the result was quite clearly very very bad for us but I’m refusing to accept it was a bad team performance.”

As he is sticking to his guns, many will simply have to agree to disagree with him; in the corridors of Goodison Park’s Main Stand, several former disbelieving Everton players – without mischief or malice – pointed out that it was the worst Liverpool team they had seen in a generation.

Normally upon hearing such statements you would stand and fight your corner but here, lamentably, witty, defiant ripostes were out of reach – cast a glance at the Premier League table and you see why.

Second bottom. A goal difference of minus six. One, scruffy win to their credit. The worst start to a campaign since 1928. This is not mischief making, it is simply pointing out the grave situation in which Liverpool find themselves.

Forget about breezing up the table and jostling for a position in the top four; don’t even allow yourself to take it for granted that Liverpool will be playing European football next season – this squad simply is not good enough.

For Hodgson to suggest it was the best performance he had seen from his players since taking charge defied belief – this was not a patch on what they produced against Arsenal and that, if we are honest, was not a complete 90 minutes.

It might be true that Liverpool dominated possession after the Blues extended their lead with Arteta’s thumping drive but what precisely did they do with it? Absolutely nothing – and the biggest cause for regret is that Everton may have wobbled had the Reds shown some dynamism.

But they didn’t and, for that reason, this performance must rank alongside the nightmares of September 1993, November 1994, October 1997 and September 2006; many, with good reason, would say it was the worst of the lot because Liverpool never looked like getting back in to it.

“The way we played was as good as I’ve seen us play this season. I can’t have any qualms with my players,” said Hodgson. “I hope fair-minded people see it the same way. I think it’s a bit unfortunate that after such a good game everything revolves around the fact that Liverpool didn’t win it.”

An odd thing to say when you consider the derby has just been lost. Nobody in the city is fair-minded after one of these games and if that happens to be as good as Hodgson thinks they have been, then the winter is going to be long
Messrs Henry and Werner are not going to come in and demand that the wheel be reshaped immediately but, equally, they are going to want to see signs that Liverpool will be able to hold their own before the reshaping starts.

One day Henry and Werner will want to be able to say they played a role helping Liverpool bring that elusive nineteenth league title back to the club which is why there is a dark irony that after 20 years spent looking for that number, they suddenly have it.

Nineteenth in the Premier League table, however, is nothing to boast about; improvement, quite simply, immediately demanded.

Sums it up perfectly for me ..great piece by King ...uncomfortable from the kick off and that feeling never left me

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:04 pm

sack him. ive had enough. ive run out of excuses for him.

by **bunglemark2** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:11 pm

Isn't it true that LFC has never fired a manager ? What the fook would we DO with the bloke ?
Maybe in this complete anarchy of a dysfunctional state we're STILL in, a new precedent has to be set : Fire the manager.

by **Ciggy** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:11 pm

Kenny was at the Blackburn game hmmmmmm.........

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