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by **JBG** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:07 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
JBG wrote:Playing well in Seria A and playing well in the Premiership are two very different things, especially considering a guy as athletically weak as Aqualani.

FFS, players in Italy can get away with playing into their late 30s.

In fairness, so can Giggs and Scholes, and so would Hyypia if we hadn't let him go.

Two of the best players ever to play in England? Yeah, I give you that, but I could name twenty ancient players regularly playing in Italy that would not make the grade in England.

I mean, look at the AC Milan side over the past couple of years, at one stage last season I think they had an average age of 32, and that was with Alexander Pato in the side.

by **stmichael** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:12 pm

bigmick wrote:Talking of people we could have signed, and I level this one at both benitez AND Hodgson, this fecking Raphael Van Der Vaart looks a bit tasty at Tottenham doersn't he? 8 million quid, feck me what a difference a player like that would make to us.

he had the choice of going to us or spurs. who would you pick in the current circumstances? it's hardly rocket science.

by **dawson99** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:14 pm

VDV had been sh!te for a few years, spurs have the money to risk that sort of move.. we do not. we cant afford these big signings anymore that might not work

by **JBG** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:16 pm

rocky29 wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
JBG wrote:Playing well in Seria A and playing well in the Premiership are two very different things, especially considering a guy as athletically weak as Aqualani.

FFS, players in Italy can get away with playing into their late 30s.

In fairness, so can Giggs and Scholes, and so would Hyypia if we hadn't let him go.

you know why players can play til there late 30"s in italy because they dont get pessed every night and eat kebabs daily i mean look at rooney for fecksake.

Well, there is a lot of truth in that: Seria A players look after themselves well, there's no denying that, and there, ahem, sports science seems to be in a league of its own.

However, I would say that the slow, tactical pace of the Italian game, the dramatic fall in standards and the financial difficulties of the top Italian sides have more to do with it than that.

Gone are the days when genuinely tremendous Seria A players, even old ones like Zola, could come over to the Premiership and be top brass, I mean, look at the recent imports, like Aqualani and Dossena.

The fact that English sides dont tend to import players from Italy anymore speaks volumes.

by **tubby** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:17 pm

stmichael wrote:
bigmick wrote:Talking of people we could have signed, and I level this one at both benitez AND Hodgson, this fecking Raphael Van Der Vaart looks a bit tasty at Tottenham doersn't he? 8 million quid, feck me what a difference a player like that would make to us.

he had the choice of going to us or spurs. who would you pick in the current circumstances? it's hardly rocket science.

Lest we forget Roy also said he doesn't 'fit into our system'. He is great for teams who like to press, would have slotted right in last season.

Anyway what was the point in getting Meireles if we are gonna play him out wide? We should have kept Aqua man and got in new striker.

by **rocky29** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:34 pm

bavlondon wrote:
stmichael wrote:
bigmick wrote:Talking of people we could have signed, and I level this one at both benitez AND Hodgson, this fecking Raphael Van Der Vaart looks a bit tasty at Tottenham doersn't he? 8 million quid, feck me what a difference a player like that would make to us.

he had the choice of going to us or spurs. who would you pick in the current circumstances? it's hardly rocket science.

Lest we forget Roy also said he doesn't 'fit into our system'. He is great for teams who like to press, would have slotted right in last season.

Anyway what was the point in getting Meireles if we are gonna play him out wide? We should have kept Aqua man and got in new striker.

spot on and why get poulsen when ugot lucas. thats like replacing heskey with james fecking beattie . Roy should of kept mash and aqua he got joe cole free. all he had to do was get a fecking striker. the midfield now is a fecking joke so i have no sympathy for roy when everyone else on the planet could see we needed cover upfront.

by **JBG** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:56 pm

rocky29 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
stmichael wrote:
bigmick wrote:Talking of people we could have signed, and I level this one at both benitez AND Hodgson, this fecking Raphael Van Der Vaart looks a bit tasty at Tottenham doersn't he? 8 million quid, feck me what a difference a player like that would make to us.

he had the choice of going to us or spurs. who would you pick in the current circumstances? it's hardly rocket science.

Lest we forget Roy also said he doesn't 'fit into our system'. He is great for teams who like to press, would have slotted right in last season.

Anyway what was the point in getting Meireles if we are gonna play him out wide? We should have kept Aqua man and got in new striker.

spot on and why get poulsen when ugot lucas. thats like replacing heskey with james fecking beattie . Roy should of kept mash and aqua he got joe cole free. all he had to do was get a fecking striker. the midfield now is a fecking joke so i have no sympathy for roy when everyone else on the planet could see we needed cover upfront.

Mascherano leaving had little or nothing to do with Roy, to say otherwise is a pipedream.

It was long flagged that Javier wanted to go for family reasons, nothing was going to make him stay.

by **rocky29** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:13 pm

JBG wrote:
rocky29 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
stmichael wrote:
bigmick wrote:Talking of people we could have signed, and I level this one at both benitez AND Hodgson, this fecking Raphael Van Der Vaart looks a bit tasty at Tottenham doersn't he? 8 million quid, feck me what a difference a player like that would make to us.

he had the choice of going to us or spurs. who would you pick in the current circumstances? it's hardly rocket science.

Lest we forget Roy also said he doesn't 'fit into our system'. He is great for teams who like to press, would have slotted right in last season.

Anyway what was the point in getting Meireles if we are gonna play him out wide? We should have kept Aqua man and got in new striker.

spot on and why get poulsen when ugot lucas. thats like replacing heskey with james fecking beattie . Roy should of kept mash and aqua he got joe cole free. all he had to do was get a fecking striker. the midfield now is a fecking joke so i have no sympathy for roy when everyone else on the planet could see we needed cover upfront.

Mascherano leaving had little or nothing to do with Roy, to say otherwise is a pipedream.

It was long flagged that Javier wanted to go for family reasons, nothing was going to make him stay.

so how long has fabregas wanted a move. How long before ronaldo was allowed to move? You talk bollox.

by **bigmick** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:15 pm

He doesn't talk b0ll0cks mate he talks sense. He always did and no doubt he always will. He used to post around here when the forum was really good.

BTW, Aquilani is garbage.

by **Kharhaz** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:23 pm

rocky29 wrote:Roy should of kept mash and aqua he got joe cole free. all he had to do was get a fecking striker.

Of course ! Its all so clear now ! Blimey you make it so simple !

Mascherano wanted to leave, Aquilani, lets be honest here, only you truly rate him as a top top quality difference maker and to, as you put it "get a fecking striker", like who? Another Voronin only this time we pay for the privelage? or top quality players that are going to Man City or other teams who are willing to pay ludicrous amounts for them? As you know, we are not in a good position financially.

by **rocky29** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:36 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
rocky29 wrote:Roy should of kept mash and aqua he got joe cole free. all he had to do was get a fecking striker.

Of course ! Its all so clear now ! Blimey you make it so simple !

Mascherano wanted to leave, Aquilani, lets be honest here, only you truly rate him as a top top quality difference maker and to, as you put it "get a fecking striker", like who? Another Voronin only this time we pay for the privelage? or top quality players that are going to Man City or other teams who are willing to pay ludicrous amounts for them? As you know, we are not in a good position financially.

so every player thats says he wants to leave the manager says ok fair enough. Your living in cloud cuckoo land pal. As for we need a fecking striker well i was proved right wasnt i.

by **rocky29** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:40 pm

bigmick wrote:He doesn't talk b0ll0cks mate he talks sense. He always did and no doubt he always will. He used to post around here when the forum was really good.

BTW, Aquilani is garbage.

hey mick where was u yesterday defending your new managers honour. Funny that isnt it mate.

by **Kharhaz** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:51 pm

rocky29 wrote:so every player thats says he wants to leave the manager says ok fair enough. Your living in cloud cuckoo land pal. As for we need a fecking striker well i was proved right wasnt i.

so every player thats says he wants to leave the manager says ok fair enough. Your living in cloud cuckoo land pal.

Not every player, just Mascherano in this case. Best example I can give is, where is he now?

As for we need a fecking striker well i was proved right wasnt i.

I hate to break your bubble, we have ALL been saying that since last season.

EDIT: Last TWO seasons.

by **rocky29** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:57 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
rocky29 wrote:so every player thats says he wants to leave the manager says ok fair enough. Your living in cloud cuckoo land pal. As for we need a fecking striker well i was proved right wasnt i.

so every player thats says he wants to leave the manager says ok fair enough. Your living in cloud cuckoo land pal.

Not every player, just Mascherano in this case. Best example I can give is, where is he now?

As for we need a fecking striker well i was proved right wasnt i.

I hate to break your bubble, we have ALL been saying that since last season.

EDIT: Last TWO seasons.

so if u knew since last season why didnt roy sort out the striker first before meireles and poulsen. And plz no of this there was no-one available crep!

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:06 am

rocky29 wrote:so if u knew since last season why didnt roy sort out the striker first before meireles and poulsen. And plz no of this there was no-one available crep!

He is new to the club. We have potential strikers (Babel, Kuyt, N'gog). Babel has hardly played, Kuyt has been deployed on the wing and N'Gog is a youngster. Throw in Pacheco and as new manager yes we could do with another world class striker, but where do we spend what little we have? Well we need to create more chances hence Joe Cole. The problems with Mascherano, Poulsen / Meireles. The latter offering more options. We need a left back, whatever the opinions of Insua, we needed one, Aurelio re-signed (he is a roy signing by the way, he was let go by rafa) and Konchesky. Leaving of course the striker problem.

Which leaves us with the striker. N'Gog has done ok. Torres hasnt. He has been there or thereabouts.

There is my assessment of the situation.

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