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by **andy_g** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:44 pm

this canadian fella i sort of know was chatting to a guy that runs a boozer in wimbledon who says that.... etc etc....

by **In and Out** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:47 pm

this English fella who lives in Spain by all accounts spoke to this Canadian who in turn spoke to the fella in Wimbledon re Konchesky, well as it turns out his window cleaner told the fella who runs the pub 'he's a solid LB'

by **bigmick** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:51 pm

Feck off all three of you's, c...s :laugh:

by **Zidane** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:02 pm

by **Igor Zidane** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:46 pm

Steady eddie nothing more nothing less . An improvement on insua probably , an improvement on aurelio when fit , defo not imo . When aurelio is not fit though i've got no problem with this lad coming in . Welcome to the club paul .

by **Lando_Griffin** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:52 pm

In and Out wrote:
I think you've proven my point-thank you

I'll wade in, then: £17m profit selling players bought by the previous manager.

Ergo, thicky, he spent wisely.

by **bigmick** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:46 pm

The profit on purchases by the previous manager angle doesn't really stand up to scrutiny unfortunately. Not when you consider we've let Aquilani toddle off into the sunset and he cost us 20 million quid. FWIW overall I think Rafa bought reasonably well with obvious exceptions, particularly in the first three of his six seasons. I do hope Roys tenure isn't going to be dogged with the same manipulation of facts and figures though that we've seen over recent years.

Whichever way you look at it though, Roy has brought in more money in transfer fees than he's spent (even allowing for a freebie with Aquilani), so if despite that he can improve on last season then he deserves much credit.

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:30 pm

Mick i was just wandering as you think so highly off both Konchesky and Poulsen how come you havent championed there cause before when we have been looking for a left and when we were linked with Poulsen last summer as replacement for Xabi ?

by **In and Out** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:40 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
In and Out wrote:
I think you've proven my point-thank you

I'll wade in, then: £17m profit selling players bought by the previous manager.

Ergo, thicky, he spent wisely.

by **Fowler_E7** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:21 pm

bigmick wrote:I've seen him play many times when he was at Charlton. I used to have a pub over that neck of the woodish and used to touch for a few tickets here and there. We also had Claus Jensen their Danish midfielder living in our hotel rooms for about two months while he got sorted with a house. At that time, Charlton were mid table in the Premiership and they had three outstanding players (relatively obvously), as well as a couple of very good ones.

They had Darren Bent up top, and he used to cause everybody problems whenever I saw him. He was/is big, strong, quick and willing and plays on the shoulder for the whole game. Providing you play to his strenghts he is a very good player, and it was obvious then he would go onto better things in his career. They also had Scottie Parker in midfield who once again was obviously a cut above.

Their other top player was Konchesky. He was as solid as a rock, would bomb up and down the line all day long, and he took all their set-pieces (corners and free kicks). Perhaps he hasn't shone when Charlton or West Ham have played at Anfield, but you didn't need a coaching badge at Charlton to see he was a good player.

Like I've said a few times though, it's acedemic. Pretty soon, he'll be playing in red and we can all see whether or not we are calling it right. Once again to re-iterate, no sitting on the fence from me. I'm taking him to be a revelation, and for people to not believe they didn't rate him previously. Konchesky to be another top buy from Roy, that's my prediction .

Darren Bent and Paul Konchesky never played in the same Charlton team, and Scott Parker left before Bent arrived as well

by **bigmick** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:44 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
bigmick wrote:I've seen him play many times when he was at Charlton. I used to have a pub over that neck of the woodish and used to touch for a few tickets here and there. We also had Claus Jensen their Danish midfielder living in our hotel rooms for about two months while he got sorted with a house. At that time, Charlton were mid table in the Premiership and they had three outstanding players (relatively obvously), as well as a couple of very good ones.

They had Darren Bent up top, and he used to cause everybody problems whenever I saw him. He was/is big, strong, quick and willing and plays on the shoulder for the whole game. Providing you play to his strenghts he is a very good player, and it was obvious then he would go onto better things in his career. They also had Scottie Parker in midfield who once again was obviously a cut above.

Their other top player was Konchesky. He was as solid as a rock, would bomb up and down the line all day long, and he took all their set-pieces (corners and free kicks). Perhaps he hasn't shone when Charlton or West Ham have played at Anfield, but you didn't need a coaching badge at Charlton to see he was a good player.

Like I've said a few times though, it's acedemic. Pretty soon, he'll be playing in red and we can all see whether or not we are calling it right. Once again to re-iterate, no sitting on the fence from me. I'm taking him to be a revelation, and for people to not believe they didn't rate him previously. Konchesky to be another top buy from Roy, that's my prediction .

Darren Bent and Paul Konchesky never played in the same Charlton team, and Scott Parker left before Bent arrived as well

Well I saw em all play for Charlton mate. It was around the time that Matty Holland was doing his 563 consecutive appearances thing. They had Herman Heirieddusson as well as I recall, and Jonathon Joahannson. I'm not going to argue though if you say they didn't play all a the same time, it was about 9 years ago.

by **JC_81** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:51 pm

Not impressed by the Konchesky signing at all to be honest. Always thought he was a quite limited player who is also prone to bad mistakes.

He does however have a decent left foot and can cause some damage coming forward. Overall he'll probably do a better job than Insua did there last season (think I could have managed that myself to be honest), but giving 4 year contracts to average players who are 29 is not the direction I hoped we'd take this summer.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:54 pm

john craig wrote:Not impressed by the Konchesky signing at all to be honest. Always thought he was a quite limited player who is also prone to bad mistakes.

He does however have a decent left foot and can cause some damage coming forward. Overall he'll probably do a better job than Insua did there last season (think I could have managed that myself to be honest), but giving 4 year contracts to average players who are 29 is not the direction I hoped we'd take this summer.

That's about it for me ... I think relatively speaking Konchesky has been bought primarily because he is familiar with Hodgson's strategies and the way his teams like to sit deep ...
Insua found it difficult to get back in position after his jaunts up field (the same can be said for Johnson )....I guess we our reasonably assured Konchesky in his advanced years will not be replicating the runs of Insua or Johnson for that matter... but if he sticks to just stopping the supply of crosses into the box then that may suffice .... but unlike others have mentioned I don't think he has any real aerial dominance in fact I think this will be our main concern when defending set pieces ....I Hope though I am proved wrong and he is the defender we have been missing for years and I honestly mean that

by **TarnRed** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:12 pm

Seeing as a few people are disagreeing with the Konchesky signing, who would you have signed?.

Don't forget that we have feck all coin and both Dalla Valle & Kacenklic were are rumoured to be simply not good enough, hence the £750k value.

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:19 pm

Insua v Konchesky

How does this season’s left-back compare to last season’s?

We’ve crunched the stats and we think the results will surprise you.

Emilano Insua divides Liverpool fans. Some value his bold adventurous style while others see him as a defensive liability. Similarly, Liverpool fans have mixed feelings about Konchesky. Some think he’ll be a useful addition to the squad who will bring valuable Premier League experience, while others see his signing as evidence of a lack of ambition in the transfer market.

Konchesky’s signing didn’t excite us, but we felt sure he’d be a better left-back than Insua. However, when we compared their stats for the 2009-2010 Premier League season we found some surpising results.

Goals and Assists

Hardly the most important area for two defenders, but worth a look nevertheless. Both players scored once in the Premier League last season, with Insua weighing in with 5 assists and Konchesky contributing two.

Winner: Insua

Shooting

Insua had 24 shots last year only 2 of which were on goal, giving him a shot accuracy of 8%. Konchesky had 14 shots and 3 were on target, giving him a shot accuracy of 22%.

Winner: Konchesky

Fouls Conceded

This is an interesting one – Insua committed 48 fouls last season (1.6 per game), while Konchesky only committed 25 (0.9 per game). This is the areas we feel Insua is weakest in overall (he often fouls opponents because he’s trying to atone for a positional error) so we weren’t surprised to see Konchesky come out ahead.

Winner: Konchesky

Disciplinary Record

Both players received 5 yellow cards. Konchesky received one red card.

Winner: Insua

Passing and Crossing

Insua’s pass completion rate was 87% while Konchesky’s was 78%.

Insua attempted 102 crosses and 23 found a red shirt (23% cross success). Konchesky crossed the ball 69 times and found a team mate on 11 occassions (16% cross success).

Winner: Insua

Tackling & Interceptions

Insua attempted 169 tackles last season and 116 were successful (69% tackle success). Insua averaged 3.8 successful tackles per game.

Konchesky attempted 83 tackles and 49 were successful (59% tackling success). Konchesky averaged 1.9 successful tackles per game.

Insua averaged 2.3 interceptions per game and Konchesky averaged 1.9.

Winner: Insua

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