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I bet this time last year not one single person would of wanted Konchesky at the club - he is all we could afford .

When we were looking at Poulsen last summer not one single person wanted him .

All last season and before people were saying we shouldnt be happy with mediocrity - have we now lowered our standards that we now embrace mediocrity ?!

Fair enough, mate.  I wouldn't have plumped for either player at this time last year.  One year on, however, and we're wiser about a few things:

1) we still have these sh!thead owners who aren't exactly liberal when it comes to splashing the cash, meaning that we need to balance out the top dollar signings (Aquilani, Johnson, Meireles) with some bargains (Kyrgiakos, Ngog, Poulsen, Konchesky) and hope they do a job

2) Insua--our principal LB for most of last season--is not as reliable as we hoped one year ago and we need someone in who is

3) Lucas--one of our principal CMs for most of last season--is not as reliable as we hoped one year ago and we need someone in who is

4) Aquilani--one of our top dollar signings last season--is not as reliable as we hoped one year ago and we need someone in who is

5) Mascherano--our other principal CM from last season--has finally orchestrated the move he's been dreaming of for over a year, leaving us with little option but to buy a couple of CMs to plug the gaps

6) We scraped into 7th place last season--the mark of mediocrity if there ever was one--and we need to stop the rot so our new manager has elected to bring in a few veteran campaigners to steady the ship and get it pointed in the right direction once more.  Time will tell if that strategy is a masterstroke or a mistake but it should be perfectly clear that mediocrity had already been achieved.  I think that to stay on the course we had been on would have been to "embrace" mediocrity and I'm pleased we're trying a new approach.

Ah-fecking-men to that.

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I bet this time last year not one single person would of wanted Konchesky at the club - he is all we could afford .

When we were looking at Poulsen last summer not one single person wanted him .

All last season and before people were saying we shouldnt be happy with mediocrity - have we now lowered our standards that we now embrace mediocrity ?!

This time though we sincerely have NO MONEY.

Had it been spent wisely in previous years we you may not be here bemoaning the signing of Konchesky. 

Yet we still managed to be over 17 million pound in profit this year due to sales ?!

And your point is   

Like I said had the previous manager spent more wisely you wouldn't be sitting there whinging about Konchesky, Poulsen and J.Cole   

If you want to talk about the previous manager then there is a thread for last elsewhere - not going to go round in circles once again .

I think you've proven my point-thank you     

[Benny The Noon]

Thats fair enough mate but some people are talking like Konchesky and Poulsen are the missing pieces in the jigsaw - words like revelation and easily filling mashers shoes ?! why erent the same people talking up these players a while ago ? Or is it simply a case of putting ribbins round everything the manager does and claiming it to be a sensation ?

Last season was a horror show all round - of that there is no doubt and hopefully things will be different this season - BUT looking at our performances so far this season im extremely worried that it could be even worse .

If I'm not wrong, you were banging Konchesky's drum and fighting with everyone few days ago about how solid he would be and now all of a sudden Konchesky's purchase is a mistake because your clueless mate says so ?

Konchesky would be a very good BACK UP left back - someone to come in and do a job - not someone to play in the first 11 who can change a game .

[Bad Bob]

Thats fair enough mate but some people are talking like Konchesky and Poulsen are the missing pieces in the jigsaw - words like revelation and easily filling mashers shoes ?! why erent the same people talking up these players a while ago ? Or is it simply a case of putting ribbins round everything the manager does and claiming it to be a sensation ?

Last season was a horror show all round - of that there is no doubt and hopefully things will be different this season - BUT looking at our performances so far this season im extremely worried that it could be even worse .

Equally, some people are speaking of these players as complete embarassments who are not fit to wear the shirt and, in the process, are possibly forgetting or willfully ignoring some of the dross that has turned out at Anfield in the past few seasons in their respective positions.  So, like every discussion on here, things get dragged to extremes, preposterous claims are made and we all have a bit of fun for a bit while we wait for actual football to kick off again.   

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Thats fair enough mate but some people are talking like Konchesky and Poulsen are the missing pieces in the jigsaw - words like revelation and easily filling mashers shoes ?! why erent the same people talking up these players a while ago ? Or is it simply a case of putting ribbins round everything the manager does and claiming it to be a sensation ?

Last season was a horror show all round - of that there is no doubt and hopefully things will be different this season - BUT looking at our performances so far this season im extremely worried that it could be even worse .

Equally, some people are speaking of these players as complete embarassments who are not fit to wear the shirt and, in the process, are possibly forgetting or willfully ignoring some of the dross that has turned out at Anfield in the past few seasons in their respective positions.  So, like every discussion on here, things get dragged to extremes, preposterous claims are made and we all have a bit of fun for a bit while we wait for actual football to kick off again.   

We can't discuss that didn't you know as it only serves to prove us correct - again.   

[Benny The Noon]

Thats fair enough mate but some people are talking like Konchesky and Poulsen are the missing pieces in the jigsaw - words like revelation and easily filling mashers shoes ?! why erent the same people talking up these players a while ago ? Or is it simply a case of putting ribbins round everything the manager does and claiming it to be a sensation ?

Last season was a horror show all round - of that there is no doubt and hopefully things will be different this season - BUT looking at our performances so far this season im extremely worried that it could be even worse .

Equally, some people are speaking of these players as complete embarassments who are not fit to wear the shirt and, in the process, are possibly forgetting or willfully ignoring some of the dross that has turned out at Anfield in the past few seasons in their respective positions.  So, like every discussion on here, things get dragged to extremes, preposterous claims are made and we all have a bit of fun for a bit while we wait for actual football to kick off again.   

They are not embarresments Bob - they are prem footballers in the same way players like Lucas and Insua etc are - internationl footballers so they arent sh.ite or embarresment etc or any of the other types of hyperboles we see . They are (poulsen and konchesky ) are the type of solid ( not game changing ) players you would be comfy seeing in the squad as back up to the better players in the first 11 .

And i know we have had dross at the club - no one will deny that - but that doesnt mean we have to welcome players who some think arent good enough with open arms .

[matt_liverpool]

Thats fair enough mate but some people are talking like Konchesky and Poulsen are the missing pieces in the jigsaw - words like revelation and easily filling mashers shoes ?! why erent the same people talking up these players a while ago ? Or is it simply a case of putting ribbins round everything the manager does and claiming it to be a sensation ?

Last season was a horror show all round - of that there is no doubt and hopefully things will be different this season - BUT looking at our performances so far this season im extremely worried that it could be even worse .

Equally, some people are speaking of these players as complete embarassments who are not fit to wear the shirt and, in the process, are possibly forgetting or willfully ignoring some of the dross that has turned out at Anfield in the past few seasons in their respective positions.  So, like every discussion on here, things get dragged to extremes, preposterous claims are made and we all have a bit of fun for a bit while we wait for actual football to kick off again.   

They are not embarresments Bob - they are prem footballers in the same way players like Lucas and Insua etc are - internationl footballers so they arent sh.ite or embarresment etc or any of the other types of hyperboles we see . They are (poulsen and konchesky ) are the type of solid ( not game changing ) players you would be comfy seeing in the squad as back up to the better players in the first 11 .

And i know we have had dross at the club - no one will deny that - but that doesnt mean we have to welcome players who some think arent good enough with open arms .

If I'm not wrong, you were banging Konchesky's drum and fighting with everyone few days ago about how solid he would be and now all of a sudden Konchesky's purchase is a mistake because your clueless mate says so ?

[bigmick]

Thats fair enough mate but some people are talking like Konchesky and Poulsen are the missing pieces in the jigsaw -

They are missing pieces, but not THE missing pieces. Thats because the jigsaw Roy was left had many missing pieces.

We need a top class centre half. We needed a Premiership quality left back who can play every week, we needed some players so we could break up the dreaded Lucas/Masherano axis, we needed someone who could play left side midfield, we needed cover for Torres/Gerrard, and that's just for starters.

Now we've signed Konchesky. He's a better defender than Insua, better going forward, takes better set-pieces and has more experience. In short, he's better.

We signed Poulsen. Poulsen, despite some people denying it till they are blue in the face, is absolutely different class to Lucas. It's not even close, there is absolutely no comparison whatsoever.

That's what Roy is doing, he's improving the team which is what he gets paid for. Well in Roy  .

[Benny The Noon]

Thats fair enough mate but some people are talking like Konchesky and Poulsen are the missing pieces in the jigsaw - words like revelation and easily filling mashers shoes ?! why erent the same people talking up these players a while ago ? Or is it simply a case of putting ribbins round everything the manager does and claiming it to be a sensation ?

Last season was a horror show all round - of that there is no doubt and hopefully things will be different this season - BUT looking at our performances so far this season im extremely worried that it could be even worse .

Equally, some people are speaking of these players as complete embarassments who are not fit to wear the shirt and, in the process, are possibly forgetting or willfully ignoring some of the dross that has turned out at Anfield in the past few seasons in their respective positions.  So, like every discussion on here, things get dragged to extremes, preposterous claims are made and we all have a bit of fun for a bit while we wait for actual football to kick off again.   

They are not embarresments Bob - they are prem footballers in the same way players like Lucas and Insua etc are - internationl footballers so they arent sh.ite or embarresment etc or any of the other types of hyperboles we see . They are (poulsen and konchesky ) are the type of solid ( not game changing ) players you would be comfy seeing in the squad as back up to the better players in the first 11 .

And i know we have had dross at the club - no one will deny that - but that doesnt mean we have to welcome players who some think arent good enough with open arms .

If I'm not wrong, you were banging Konchesky's drum and fighting with everyone few days ago about how solid he would be and now all of a sudden Konchesky's purchase is a mistake because your clueless mate says so ?

Leg Barnes why are you repeating yourself with a question i have already answered ?

Also how do you know what i was previously saying when you only recently joined here 

[matt_liverpool]

Also how do you know what i was previously saying when you only recently joined here 

you said it a week ago, don't try to be a smart ass. 

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Hmmm, it's curious that a player that left such a limited impression on you would elicit this kind of response just a couple of days ago:

he will be so out of his depth he may even merit my sympathy

   

lets face it the only thing we are ever likely to agree on ...is how much I grate  on you ...      

 

[rocky29]

my friend is a big fulham fan and hes said hes glad hes gone because hes always being caught out of position because he ventures to far forward and then gets caught out when they lose possession. Is this something to worry about.

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my friend is a big fulham fan and hes said hes glad hes gone because hes always being caught out of position because he ventures to far forward and then gets caught out when they lose possession. Is this something to worry about.

NO

My mates been a season ticket holder since the Valley held 65,000 plus people and reckons Konchesky will be a reliable LB. Infact he reckons we in desperate need of a bald headed fella.

[andy_g]

to be honest i don't know that much about him myself either. i remember a 30 yard belter he certainly meant to do once, and i remember a 30 yard cross/goal he probably didn't mean to do against us in the FA cup final. i think i also remember him putting in a hard working and fairly effective shift in that final in general, but seeing as we didn't really play with a right winger that game and then brought on kronkamp to fill the role (??? ) he didn't have to do all that much.

he hasn't been in big teams at all during his career, but he HAS been in the premiership for a long time. he obviously has what it takes ot hold down a first team place in a premiership side which means he has a certain level of talent. his lack of england caps don't worry me too much either in an era when ashley cole and wayne bridge have been by far and away the better options.

let's give him a few games before we get too carried away in either direction. he might prove to be a good signing and he might not, but at the very least we have added solidity to a position that needed it.

[Bad Bob]

I know this fella who runs a pub over Wimbledon way who used to watch Konchesky loads during his Charlton days.  He reckons that Konchesky, Scottie Parker and Darren Bent stood out like the proverbial sore thumbs in an otherwise mediocre Charlton side.  He says we're onto a winner.