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by **bunglemark2** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:04 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Back on topic Lucas numerous times in numerous games has shown his has the attacking skills to do a decent job for us .

Eh, when would that have been if you don't mind me askin' ?

by **LFC2007** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:35 pm

A midfielder could hardly have made less of a contribution to the attack...That said, he does intercept the ball and position himself reasonably well and his ability to pass the ball five-yards, both sideways and backwards is unparalleled, IMHO.

by **7_Kewell** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:49 pm

LFC2007 wrote:A midfielder could hardly have made less of a contribution to the attack...That said, he does intercept the ball and position himself reasonably well and his ability to pass the ball five-yards, both sideways and backwards is unparalleled, IMHO.

he's dead good on Fifa 2010 too

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:54 pm

Lucas is f.uckin ace . Just my opinion, oh and our previous and current managers oh and the manager of the Brazilian national sides. Means feck all like , just sayin.

by **supersub** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:59 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:I don't rate the lad. He's not good enough for this league...too lightweight for starters.

Lightweight .. .there you go again with the comedy ... and I thought you just drove taxi's .........you kidder you

maybe i've watched a different Lucas who doesn't get kicked off the ball easily.

Don't think you have watched lucas at all....silly person :laugh:

by **Bad Bob** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:03 pm

bigmick wrote:TBPH I don't think he'll play on Sunday. I think Poulsen will come straight into the team.

I agree with you but I don't think it will be the definitive statement some might think. From what I gather, Lucas will not be returning from the Brazil set-up until tomorrow and so may not feature in Roy's plans for Sunday.

by **jimmy brighton** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:06 pm

7_Kewell wrote:Lucas has not..is not..and will not ever been good enough for the Premier league. I never like to see a Liverpool player fail, but Lucas has failed and he should have been sold last summer

Totally disagree. When rafa finally let him off the reins towards the end of last season he started showing his real potential. Even after that people are still giving him c.rap. Basically, the general consortium(!), felt our squad has been to thin for some time. I still think we need someone else as well. I have serious doubts about Spearing.

by **PabloAimar** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:11 pm

yes but do you think ancelloti, ferguson, wenger, mancini, o'neil, redknapp, del bosque, mourinho, etc. etc. would put him in the first 11? i doubt it.
i don't understand how saying benitez and hodgson picking him means he's an amazing player by default. these managers also thought voronin and kevin davies were awesome respectively.

i think lucas' regular inclusion in the starting 11 last season and rafa's justification for it by saying 'the balance is good' while we were losing games to p1ss poor opposition was one of the key reasons we did so badly last season. he's a decent (youngish) player, nothing more. should be used as part of a rotation system and fielded if - and only if - tactically necessary.... not every game. he may get 'stuck in' more than aquilani but aquilani's ball retention and use of it when in possession is light years better so he wouldn't be required to get 'stuck in' as much as lucas is.

against tough opposition:

poulsen lucas
gerrard aquilani cole
torres

that's the only line up there's space for him other than being backup to poulsen sitting behind 2 of gerrard/aquilani/cole in the middle

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:18 pm

I cant quite remember whether I have said this before ...but I like Lucas and the manager seems to reciprocate those sentiments

by **jimmy brighton** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:40 pm

PabloAimar wrote:yes but do you think ancelloti, ferguson, wenger, mancini, o'neil, redknapp, del bosque, mourinho, etc. etc. would put him in the first 11? i doubt it.
i don't understand how saying benitez and hodgson picking him means he's an amazing player by default. these managers also thought voronin and kevin davies were awesome respectively.

i think lucas' regular inclusion in the starting 11 last season and rafa's justification for it by saying 'the balance is good' while we were losing games to p1ss poor opposition was one of the key reasons we did so badly last season. he's a decent (youngish) player, nothing more. should be used as part of a rotation system and fielded if - and only if - tactically necessary.... not every game. he may get 'stuck in' more than aquilani but aquilani's ball retention and use of it when in possession is light years better so he wouldn't be required to get 'stuck in' as much as lucas is.

against tough opposition:

poulsen lucas
gerrard aquilani cole
torres

that's the only line up there's space for him other than being backup to poulsen sitting behind 2 of gerrard/aquilani/cole in the middle

I never said he was an amazing player by default. He is a good solid player and an important member of the squad. I'm sure Woy has seen the big potential (that will only get better). Lets hope now Cole is here, Gerrard can be brought back to CM and that will leave us with 2 to pick from Ged, poulsen, lucas and AA. Not a bad headache me thinks

by **jimmy brighton** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:42 pm

If Ged ain't brought back to CM, then I think we need someone else also.

by **In and Out** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:58 pm

Lucas is shabite-end of, seems many fans have been dumbed down from the previous managers regime.

by **Calum** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:10 pm

PabloAimar wrote:against tough opposition:

poulsen lucas
gerrard aquilani cole
torres

that's the only line up there's space for him other than being backup to poulsen sitting behind 2 of gerrard/aquilani/cole in the middle

And no mention of Kuyt, Jovanovic, Maxi, Shelvey, and Babel. Despite me moaning about the lack of strikers, we do seem to have more strength in depth than last season. Though, that's not very hard.

by **Ben Patrick** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:37 pm

he is good enough to keep as a squad player but shouldnt be anywhere near the starting line up if everyone is fit.
He is not a bad player but doesnt offer enough to justify a position in such a key area of the pitch.

by **metalhead** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:27 am

Ben Patrick wrote:he is good enough to keep as a squad player but shouldnt be anywhere near the starting line up if everyone is fit.
He is not a bad player but doesnt offer enough to justify a position in such a key area of the pitch.

Agreed, squad player at best, decent backup and a good option to bring as a 2nd half substitute when we need to press the ball and close down. His work rate is excellent.

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