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by **Dundalk** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:36 am

Obviously David Villa is going to know a lot more then any of us on here as to what Fernando Torres is thinking. He has had a chat with him about his future and Torres told him that Liverpool as a club are fucked and have no money, that he wants to win stuff so he is going to Chelsea. I cant fully understand where he coming from but if it is true that he is no only staying with us because Chelsea couldn't cough up enough cash, then it kinds makes me feels like the fat ugly girl at the end of the night who is taken home by a guy who couldn't get anyone else all night despite his best efforts.

Booby prize!

by **roberto green** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:42 am

Dundalk wrote:Obviously David Villa is going to know a lot more then any of us on here as to what Fernando Torres is thinking. He has had a chat with him about his future and Torres told him that Liverpool as a club are fucked and have no money, that he wants to win stuff so he is going to Chelsea. I cant fully understand where he coming from but if it is true that he is no only staying with us because Chelsea couldn't cough up enough cash, then it kinds makes me feels like the fat ugly girl at the end of the night who is taken home by a guy who couldn't get anyone else all night despite his best efforts.

Booby prize!

I'm sure if Fernando would of had a good world cup though there would of been plenty of suitors for him so he hasn't helped himself out

by **NANNY RED** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:53 am

shawnk wrote:
Dundalk wrote:"I am actually a little surprised. It looks like Nando is staying," Villa is quoted as saying by the Daily Star Sunday.

"After I spoke with him at the World Cup I thought he would sign for Chelsea.

"I think it must only be that Chelsea did not meet Liverpool's valuation. Because, if they had, I am sure he would have made the move."

He added: "This is Liverpool's last chance to keep him. They have to prove they are capable of challenging on all fronts this season, otherwise he will be gone.

"If Liverpool fail to win anything I am sure he will be at Chelsea next summer."

Thats the part that annoys me

If this is true then Torres had his mind made up that he was going to Chelsea

Or because Nando is disappointed with the lack of world class players he was hoping for and openly talked about.

what he said

by **tubby** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:38 am

Basically the sale of the club has to go through this season. I can't see us pushing for the league and getting into the top 4 is going to be a tough target too, especially with the names we have been linked with recently. It all comes down to the sale of the club, get in some proper owners who can bring in world class players or we lose him.

by **Tim LFC** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:35 pm

bavlondon wrote:Basically the sale of the club has to go through this season. I can't see us pushing for the league and getting into the top 4 is going to be a tough target too, especially with the names we have been linked with recently. It all comes down to the sale of the club, get in some proper owners who can bring in world class players or we lose him.

Quite right! We need to get the sale of the club. But to be honest no club is spending that much money. So if we did get owners only us and Man City would be spending. And whilst Villa thinks Barcelona is all fine and dandy he should enjoy not getting payed. :laugh:

by **tubby** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:42 pm

by **teamleader1** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:49 pm

bigmick wrote:I wouldn't be too harsh on him, he was obviously considering his position despite what some head in the sanders on here were trying to pretend. I said at the time and it predictably kicked off in the aftermath, if you don't finish in the Champions League places you run the risk of losing your best players. If it wasn't for the financial demise of Portsmouth, we wouldn't even have made the Europa League Cup such was the debacle that was last season, so it's not surprising he was getting itchy feet really.

I know it's controversial to say it, and I have nothing but hunch value to base it on, but Torres along with Gerrard are on my list of players who would have agitated even further for a move if we hadn't changed the manager.

Agree

Also if it is word for word the truth then I'm VERY disappointed that he seems to have thought so little of the fans feelings to even consider joining another English club through choice.
Lets hope we get new owners in soon that will give Roy the finances to bring in top class players (including strikers)
That's not to pacify Nando but to make him or anyone else who thinks that we are not up to their standards understand that they are not the be all and end all for LFC.

by **Calum** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:31 pm

I don't blame Torres for wanting to leave. He said a few months ago he wanted several top class players to arrive in the summer. So far, we have only bought one. Where's the ambition at the club to meet his? There isn't any.

by **teamleader1** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:49 pm

Calum wrote:I don't blame Torres for wanting to leave. He said a few months ago he wanted several top class players to arrive in the summer. So far, we have only bought one. Where's the ambition at the club to meet his? There isn't any.

Sorry m8 I don't buy that.
We are at a major crossroads and everyone needs to close ranks
We want loyalty for the cause now, not prima donnas putting themselves first.

by **jimmy brighton** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:02 pm

Tim LFC wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Basically the sale of the club has to go through this season. I can't see us pushing for the league and getting into the top 4 is going to be a tough target too, especially with the names we have been linked with recently. It all comes down to the sale of the club, get in some proper owners who can bring in world class players or we lose him.

Quite right! We need to get the sale of the club. But to be honest no club is spending that much money. So if we did get owners only us and Man City would be spending. And whilst Villa thinks Barcelona is all fine and dandy he should enjoy not getting payed.

by **Roger Red Hat** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:04 pm

all a load of media bollox and anyone on here that tells me otherwise needs to wake the fk up. as for media - burn the lot of 'em, scumface ar$ebandits.

by **shabelle50** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:23 pm

Dundalk wrote:"I am actually a little surprised. It looks like Nando is staying," Villa is quoted as saying by the Daily Star Sunday.

"After I spoke with him at the World Cup I thought he would sign for Chelsea.

"I think it must only be that Chelsea did not meet Liverpool's valuation. Because, if they had, I am sure he would have made the move."

He added: "This is Liverpool's last chance to keep him. They have to prove they are capable of challenging on all fronts this season, otherwise he will be gone.

"If Liverpool fail to win anything I am sure he will be at Chelsea next summer."

Thats the part that annoys me

If this is true then Torres had his mind made up that he was going to Chelsea

Villa is probably surprised because his own little move to Barca worked out when for god knows how long he's been linked with Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge.

Is he actually saying something new about Torres that if Liverpool don't finish fourth and/or win a trophy that Torres will move on?

So what is my reaction. The world won't end if Torres does leave Liverpool in the next twelve months. You don't keep unhappy players however good they are. The club will still be there you just move on to the next players who want to wear the red shirt end of.

by **rocky29** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:03 pm

shabelle50 wrote:
Dundalk wrote:"I am actually a little surprised. It looks like Nando is staying," Villa is quoted as saying by the Daily Star Sunday.

"After I spoke with him at the World Cup I thought he would sign for Chelsea.

"I think it must only be that Chelsea did not meet Liverpool's valuation. Because, if they had, I am sure he would have made the move."

He added: "This is Liverpool's last chance to keep him. They have to prove they are capable of challenging on all fronts this season, otherwise he will be gone.

"If Liverpool fail to win anything I am sure he will be at Chelsea next summer."

Thats the part that annoys me

If this is true then Torres had his mind made up that he was going to Chelsea

Villa is probably surprised because his own little move to Barca worked out when for god knows how long he's been linked with Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge.

Is he actually saying something new about Torres that if Liverpool don't finish fourth and/or win a trophy that Torres will move on?

So what is my reaction. The world won't end if Torres does leave Liverpool in the next twelve months. You don't keep unhappy players however good they are. The club will still be there you just move on to the next players who want to wear the red shirt end of.

listen were taking a massive risk with him by keeping him. Because with him staying. Roy will keep faith with ngog and possibly buy a 30 something striker from norway as backup. Now nando will prob miss first two games. Then if he has an injury plagued season where does that leave us?

by **7_Kewell** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:35 pm

rocky29 wrote:
shabelle50 wrote:
Dundalk wrote:"I am actually a little surprised. It looks like Nando is staying," Villa is quoted as saying by the Daily Star Sunday.

"After I spoke with him at the World Cup I thought he would sign for Chelsea.

"I think it must only be that Chelsea did not meet Liverpool's valuation. Because, if they had, I am sure he would have made the move."

He added: "This is Liverpool's last chance to keep him. They have to prove they are capable of challenging on all fronts this season, otherwise he will be gone.

"If Liverpool fail to win anything I am sure he will be at Chelsea next summer."

Thats the part that annoys me

If this is true then Torres had his mind made up that he was going to Chelsea

Villa is probably surprised because his own little move to Barca worked out when for god knows how long he's been linked with Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge.

Is he actually saying something new about Torres that if Liverpool don't finish fourth and/or win a trophy that Torres will move on?

So what is my reaction. The world won't end if Torres does leave Liverpool in the next twelve months. You don't keep unhappy players however good they are. The club will still be there you just move on to the next players who want to wear the red shirt end of.

listen were taking a massive risk with him by keeping him. Because with him staying. Roy will keep faith with ngog and possibly buy a 30 something striker from norway as backup. Now nando will prob miss first two games. Then if he has an injury plagued season where does that leave us?

7th again probably.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:36 pm

The answer is to sell Babel and use the money to buy a decent centre foward.

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