bigmick wrote:bavlondon wrote:bigmick wrote:I tell you this right now, if he's staying then I for one am feeling VERY upbeat about the way things are going. Lets look at it:
We've lost Benayoun, a player who has wanted away for a while, and gained Joe Cole who's a far better player. We've also gained 6 million quid, which hopefully we will spend on a good left back (my own preference is for Figuroa).
We've lost Riera, who I quite liked but was a bit of a ponce and whose head was far too square for his own good. We banked a bit of cash as well. We look like getting 5 mill for Insua which is top dollar, and we've invested it in this Danny Wilson kid, and we have a bit of change out of the whole proceedings. We've told Deggen to find a new club, we're thinking about doing the same witht he Greek and Maxi. No probs from me with any of that.
We're selling Masherano who I think is a disruptive influence. Hopefully we'll get top dollar and we can buy some players who actually want to play for us.
We've kept our best two players despite many predictions to the contrary.
Well done Roy, keep up the good work.
Sorry but on Torres I don't think Roy had much of a say. If his own comments recently were anything to go by it was Purslow doing most of the talking.
The only reason Torres is staying is because he loves the club and wants to give it more time to sell to new owners, get better players in ect... and a new manager too. Hodgsen isn't a long term choice imo.
I'm getting confused again, and it's getting harder and harder to keep up around here.
So, while Rafa was still the manager, the ONLY reason our best players were still at the club was because he was here. The minute he walked out of the door, our best players would follow him.
Then, Roy Hodgson is appointed and it's the biggest joke appointment of the century. The best players would be queueing up to go, and when Masherano reiterated his desire to leave, we got "we told you so" and "it's started". Up to now, I'm following it no problem.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, "fecking Purslow" is doing the transfers. Not that it matters overly, because without any money and with a sh!t manager, nobody will sign for us anyway. Up to this point, I understood everything.
Then, loh and behold we beat Spurs, Man Utd and Arsenal to sign Joe Cole. Apparantly he's had a chat with Hodgson and was very impressed with his plans for the club. This though, is nothing to do with Roy, and besides our previous manager probably would have been in for him anyway. At this point, I'm starting to get a little bit confused, especially when obviously Purslow can't be given any credit either.
Then, Gerrard and Torres decide to stay too, saying they are impressed with the manager. Once more though, this is nothing to do with Roy either. Presumeably "fecking Purslow" talked them into it.
I personally think it's fantastic that these top players are prepared to commit to the club, despite them having absoluitely no belief whatsoever in the manager. Maybe it's because they like the kit or something, Red being their colour and all that.
Presumeably if we do improve on 7th, don't tell me, that's nothing to do with Roy either. So it's only if we don't do any good that he gets any credit for it?
I'm glad our supprters are getting behind him now, I bet it feels great.
I was talking about Torres specifically but as you wanted to touch on other players so be it. Ok Hogdsen probably had some input in Cole and Gerrard but to be honest in Gerrards case he was never really going to leave us. The only club he would have gone to was Madrid and the club was never going to sell him for anything less than a silly figure.
As for Torres we both know he isn't happy with the state of the club and the lack of investment in top players but as he showed in South Africa he wears his heart on his sleeve so an extra year at the club was always a likely outcome, especially as we are more than likely going to be taken over this year.
To be honest when Roy made those comments about Purslow 'having a chat' with Torres I wasn't in the slightest bothered and im pretty sure I didn't say 'fecking Purslow' either. Roy is just the coach where as Purslow is involved with the takeover, something Fernando was keen to get info on.
If you want to start making stupid insinuations about what comments will be coming out should we finish above 7th then that's your prerogative.
I'm just saying I don't think Roy had fk all to do with Torres deciding to stay. Hope that cleared things up for you.