Liverpool FC Forum

[Sabre]

GYBS, could you describe Sturridge's game for me? I know very little about him.

Carew is a player I like a lot, or better said, I used to like when I watched him regularly. I've heard that he has struggled with injuries?

P.S. Alex G: is it absolutely necessary to pick the left image as signature mate? . Just kidding 

[Alex G.]

P.S. Alex G: is it absolutely necessary to pick the left image as signature mate? . Just kidding 

Yes, absolutely Sabre.


I couldnt attack the image

[GYBS]

Sturridge is a powerstriker if you know what i mean - a good old traditional english centre forward - gets stuck in - good in the air - uses his physical prescence well and has a little bit of pace about him , has a good powerful shot , holds up the ball well and is also pretty good with his feet . the same sort of striker as a shearer or a hughes or carew

[Bam]

Zaki or whatever the feck he is called looks decent enough, the chap from Wigan.

But we'd still need another striker IMO as the depth really isnt there, Anelka or someone of that ilk.

[DanAn]

Well I like a few different options depending on what Rafa wants.

Llorente is a very good option, basically Crouch but much better with the ball at his feet. A cheaper option in that vein might be Cardozo from Benfica. Gomez would also be a hell of a player for us I think.

If we are looking at someone like Torres than I like both Benzema and Keirrison, Benzema is well outside our price range though, Keirrison we could get for under 20m I think.

If we want someone capable of playing LW/RW as well as up front then Ashavin would have been perfect but that ship has sailed. I like the look of Brazilian kid Nilmar, Tuncay as mentioned would also be good. I really like Balotelli from inter and Higuan but a bit far fetched.

If we are looking at someone who can put on defensive pressure then Tevez would be a dream but far fetched. Olic could be alright, Sobis is another that I like.

[mkingdom]

Owen.  Would be cheap, he would take a pay cut to save his career, wouldn't mind being second choice until he proves himself to be back to his best (if he ever does), and would get 15+ goals a season.

Plus he's English.

I know many won't agree, but how many proven Prem strikers could we sign for cheap as chips, who wouldn't take time to settle, and would guarantee goals.

Yes he is injury prone so sign him on a pay as you play contract.  Owen can't be ar$ed about money now???

[Owzat]

Zaki or whatever the feck he is called looks decent enough, the chap from Wigan.

He's tailed off a bit as the season has gone on.

Zaki 08/09

Apps : 29
Goals : 11

PREMIERSHIP

Apps 01-13 : P13 W3 D3 L7 (8 goals, 0.615 goals/app)
Apps 14-26 : P13 W6 D3 L4 (2 goals, 0.154 goals/app)

League Cup : 1 goal in 3 apps (0.333 goals/app)
Last goal : 28/12/08 vs Bolton (W1-0)

Since his last goal Wigan have a record of P10 W3 D3 L4 F6 A7 PTS 12. They've scored only two in a game once since their 2-1 win over Newcastle on Boxing Day. Zaki has two braces, one in a 5-0 win over Hull and the other in a 2-3 defeat at Anfield. He most certainly has gone off the boil despite an overall decent record

[Dundalk]

Owen.  Would be cheap, he would take a pay cut to save his career, wouldn't mind being second choice until he proves himself to be back to his best (if he ever does), and would get 15+ goals a season.

Plus he's English.

I know many won't agree, but how many proven Prem strikers could we sign for cheap as chips, who wouldn't take time to settle, and would guarantee goals.

Yes he is injury prone so sign him on a pay as you play contract.  Owen can't be ar$ed about money now???

No no no

[stmichael]

To be honest, I'd take a serious look at Santa Cruz, whether Blackburn go down or not.

[Owzat]

Owen.  Would be cheap, he would take a pay cut to save his career, wouldn't mind being second choice until he proves himself to be back to his best (if he ever does), and would get 15+ goals a season.

Plus he's English.

I know many won't agree, but how many proven Prem strikers could we sign for cheap as chips, who wouldn't take time to settle, and would guarantee goals.

Yes he is injury prone so sign him on a pay as you play contract.  Owen can't be ar$ed about money now???

I would love us to sign Owen, can't see Rafa doing it though. He could be ideal, if he does suffer injuries then it will limit his frustration at not being absolute first choice. He's scored goals at Newcastle this season despite injury, not sure wages is a big issue since any top striker will want good wages. I doubt he'd go for 'pay as you play' given Torres is first choice and it means the manager may leave him on the bench to avoid paying him, much like you sometimes get with those silly goals/appearance payment clauses that you get in contracts.

Michael Owen 08/09

Appearances : 25
Goals : 10
Goals/app : 0.400

Since scoring on his birthday, he's not scored much

23/08/08-14/12/08 : 9 goals in 14 apps (0.643 goals/app)
15/12/08-21/03/09 : 1 goal in 10 apps (0.100 goals/app)

I gather a fair few barcodes fans want rid, but his goals are important to them and even their beloved Obafemi Martins is not only injury prone but also scores no more often than Owen

Obafemi Martins 08/09

Appearances : 18
Goals : 7
Goals/app : 0.389

Martins' goals are spread reasonably evenly, but he's only made five appearances since Owen's birthday and scored just once.


I read the rumour on Eto'o, isn't he also a bit injury prone? And didn't we just pay £19m/£20.3m for a 28 year old, do we really want to go down that road with another who has a bit of an injury history (missed half of 06/07 and 07/08). That said his record is excellent, will he be happy if we stick to one up front? (Torres)

Samuel Eto'o (Barcelona)

DOB : 10/03/1981 (age 28)
La Liga Apps : 135
Goals : 102
Goals/app : 0.756

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Eto'o

Of course he may not settle well in this country, might not like the climate for starters. I like the wikipedia season by season breakdown

La Liga

04/05 : 24 goals in 37 apps (0.649 goals/app)
05/06 : 26 goals in 35 apps (0.743 goals/app)
06/07 : 11 goals in 18 apps (0.611 goals/app)
07/08 : 16 goals in 18 apps (0.889 goals/app)
08/09 : 25 goals in 27 apps (0.926 goals/app)

His record in Europe is 16 goals in 36 appearances for Barcelona (0.444 goals/app) Can't argue with that record, do wonder about him missing half a season for two in a row and his age of 28 with a fee of £18m, also with possible difficulties adapting to the English game.

[ConnO'var]

On ability alone.... not taking into account mentality, maturity and attitude, Reyes would suit our system to a tee.

[simolonge]

I think it's becoming increasingly obvious that we need to bring in another striker this summer who can partner Torres, in games predominantly at Anfield where teams defend very deep, or to be an impact from the bench and be reliable should Torres be suspended, injured or resting. With the Torres/Gerrard partnership working so well, unless one of them gets injured or needs a rest any back up could end up spending a lot of time on the bench and the players/quality that we want to sign are not going to come to us if there is a good possibility of not getting regular football.

Players like Voronin and N'Gog are acceptable, but we have too many of those strikers who are 'okay' and too few we can rely on - we really need one more striker who is a reliable 15-goals-a-season striker because otherwise we are too weak. Keane was a step in the right direction but, fatally, was ineffective on his own in Torres' absence.

I think its essential that we think about promoting Nemeth to the first team as a) He looks a very tidy player/striker b) Is not going to cost anything and c) Is going to be more patient that any big name striker we may try to bring in as cover for Torres. However there's no guarantee that this will happen. We don't however need someone high profile because they will not be able to start every game. I've heard the likes of Kanoute, Darren Bent, Daniel Sturridge mentioned but I'd like to hear your suggestions?

Is it the glut of goals that Gerrard and the team have been banging in since Torres and Gerrard got back to being our front two that made you come to this conclusion ?

[tubby]

I think it's becoming increasingly obvious that we need to bring in another striker this summer who can partner Torres, in games predominantly at Anfield where teams defend very deep, or to be an impact from the bench and be reliable should Torres be suspended, injured or resting. With the Torres/Gerrard partnership working so well, unless one of them gets injured or needs a rest any back up could end up spending a lot of time on the bench and the players/quality that we want to sign are not going to come to us if there is a good possibility of not getting regular football.

Players like Voronin and N'Gog are acceptable, but we have too many of those strikers who are 'okay' and too few we can rely on - we really need one more striker who is a reliable 15-goals-a-season striker because otherwise we are too weak. Keane was a step in the right direction but, fatally, was ineffective on his own in Torres' absence.

I think its essential that we think about promoting Nemeth to the first team as a) He looks a very tidy player/striker b) Is not going to cost anything and c) Is going to be more patient that any big name striker we may try to bring in as cover for Torres. However there's no guarantee that this will happen. We don't however need someone high profile because they will not be able to start every game. I've heard the likes of Kanoute, Darren Bent, Daniel Sturridge mentioned but I'd like to hear your suggestions?

Is it the glut of goals that Gerrard and the team have been banging in since Torres and Gerrard got back to being our front two that made you come to this conclusion ?

Yes.

They are scoring too many and it's not fair so we have to bring in someone else to share some of the goals.

[stmichael]

Owen.  Would be cheap, he would take a pay cut to save his career, wouldn't mind being second choice until he proves himself to be back to his best (if he ever does), and would get 15+ goals a season.

Plus he's English.

I know many won't agree, but how many proven Prem strikers could we sign for cheap as chips, who wouldn't take time to settle, and would guarantee goals.

Yes he is injury prone so sign him on a pay as you play contract.  Owen can't be ar$ed about money now???

April fools jokes need to be before midday mate.

[GYBS]

what we cant be looking at is 20 - 30 mil pound strikers who are just going to be back up to torres - we need a decent back up to him and we need to spend the majority of our budget on an attacking creative midfielder. players like etoo and benzema etc should be a big no for me .