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[tonyeh]

No,

We have an excellent spine to the team, Reina, Carra, Masch, Gerrard & Torres. We should be building the team around these players with more quality players not selling our best. We need to get shut of some of the cr@p players and build a winning team around our best and stop fecking getting hung up about having a huge squad of second raters so we can bring in a LB to play LM and players who can 'run all day' but can't pass or create for sh1t

Unfortunately for that "spine", Carragher's getting on, Mascherano (who I'm not that fond of anyway) is off in Janurary. Reina's in goal and can't really affect the outfield gameplay too much. So that leaves us with the Torres'n'Gerrard FC situation that Liverpool have been lumbered with for the past few seasons.

Sell Gerrard and you're left with Torres FC...and he'll be damned if he's going to wait around all year for fuckin Lucas to make a decent pass to him. He'll jump ship too.

Then...we're Middlesbrough.

[account deleted by request]

NO

[shawnk]

It's bye bye Torres if we sell Gerrard or he wanted to move on. Torres already lost Alonso that he has mentioned numerous time that he has been a key player.

[Ben Patrick]

to even consider selling him would be ridiculous.

[teamleader1]

Anyone that has anything to do with Liverpool who would even consider wanting the club to sell Gerrard should be sectioned immediatley. You must be f**king mad

Is right!

The very thought of him going is depressing 

We are stuck with the worst owners ever and a manager who is going along happily on planet Rafa

SG would be one of the assets that would attract new owners and a top new manager!

We need him more than ever now.

[Waldo]

The article is very good and hits the nail on the head IMO.

Gerrard would leave a massive gap in the team/squad/club but you can't blame him if he wants to move on for pastures new. He was probably (like many of us) led up the garden path by the new owners when they took over and now feels agreived at where the club currently sits/is going...

[Reg]

No one actually considers the point being made in the article that psychologically he appears to stun the rest of the team into submission, that whether you're Kewell, Smicer, Cisse, Keane, Babel, Lucas or even Reira now, very few people play to their full potential in the same team as SG. People on this forum have asked why RAFA takes good players and makes them ordinary, its blatently obvious that players dont raise their game when the come to Liverpool - SG has god like status so no one questions whether he is an influence and blame the managwer (again...). What the article's hinting at is if we let Stevie go, that there might be a weight off the collective shoulders of the first team, a pick up in moral and with a resultant improvement in open play performance and goals?

I dont subscribe to the myth that SG is untouchable and its not something we can judge from afar but this journalist is no fool so maybe theres a grain of truth in it.

Open mind time lads...........

[Ben Patrick]

No one actually considers the point being made in the article that psychologically he appears to stun the rest of the team into submission, that whether you're Kewell, Smicer, Cisse, Keane, Babel, Lucas or even Reira now, very few people play to their full potential in the same team as SG. People on this forum have asked why RAFA takes good players and makes them ordinary, its blatently obvious that players dont raise their game when the come to Liverpool - SG has god like status so no one questions whether he is an influence and blame the managwer (again...). What the article's hinting at is if we let Stevie go, that there might be a weight off the collective shoulders of the first team, a pick up in moral and with a resultant improvement in open play performance and goals?

I dont subscribe to the myth that SG is untouchable and its not something we can judge from afar but this journalist is no fool so maybe theres a grain of truth in it.

Open mind time lads...........

Why is he no fool ?

I have seen him on that sunday supplement loads of times and he talks sh!te.
Bald headed fella he is isnt he ?
If its him he talks as much rubbish as the others.

Its crazy how some fans stand by the manager who has given us nowhere near as much as our skipper but then can criticise Gerrard for things he cant control.

If these players are not strong enough willed to deal with the pressure of playing for LFC that says more about them than it does our captain.

[tubby]

No we shouldn't sell him. But if he shows any flirting as he did that year then we should get rid of him with no hesitation. We don't want a repeat of last time.

[Boocity]

No one actually considers the point being made in the article that psychologically he appears to stun the rest of the team into submission, that whether you're Kewell, Smicer, Cisse, Keane, Babel, Lucas or even Reira now, very few people play to their full potential in the same team as SG. People on this forum have asked why RAFA takes good players and makes them ordinary, its blatently obvious that players dont raise their game when the come to Liverpool - SG has god like status so no one questions whether he is an influence and blame the managwer (again...). What the article's hinting at is if we let Stevie go, that there might be a weight off the collective shoulders of the first team, a pick up in moral and with a resultant improvement in open play performance and goals?

I dont subscribe to the myth that SG is untouchable and its not something we can judge from afar but this journalist is no fool so maybe theres a grain of truth in it.

Open mind time lads...........

What happens if we do sell him and the rest of the players don't stand up and be counted. Can we afford to take that chance looking at our current predicament.

[tonyeh]

Its crazy how some fans stand by the manager who has given us nowhere near as much as our skipper but then can criticise Gerrard for things he cant control.

Bang on.

Gerrard can put in some duff performances, but he's been essential to Liverpool for years and still is. He's an honest player who's fed up with the whole situation as it stands at the club now.

...and the boss has no answers for him, no plan B and no way out of the mess that HE has got us into.

Given the choice between getting rid of Gerrard or Benitez, the Spaniard will go every time, AFAIC.

[JohnBull]

Before anyone calls Stevie's effort this season just remember that he's carrying a hernia strain that the club doctors said should be operated on months ago.
The lad is playing every game after a load of injections just to try and keep this "4th place" fantasy going. If he doesn't get the op soon he can kiss the world cup goodbye and he does NOT deserve that.
Been watching this club for a long long time and he will always be in my best ever 11.

[Reg]

No one actually considers the point being made in the article that psychologically he appears to stun the rest of the team into submission, that whether you're Kewell, Smicer, Cisse, Keane, Babel, Lucas or even Reira now, very few people play to their full potential in the same team as SG. People on this forum have asked why RAFA takes good players and makes them ordinary, its blatently obvious that players dont raise their game when the come to Liverpool - SG has god like status so no one questions whether he is an influence and blame the managwer (again...). What the article's hinting at is if we let Stevie go, that there might be a weight off the collective shoulders of the first team, a pick up in moral and with a resultant improvement in open play performance and goals?

I dont subscribe to the myth that SG is untouchable and its not something we can judge from afar but this journalist is no fool so maybe theres a grain of truth in it.

Open mind time lads...........

Why is he no fool ?

I have seen him on that sunday supplement loads of times and he talks sh!te.
Bald headed fella he is isnt he ?
If its him he talks as much rubbish as the others.

Its crazy how some fans stand by the manager who has given us nowhere near as much as our skipper but then can criticise Gerrard for things he cant control.

If these players are not strong enough willed to deal with the pressure of playing for LFC that says more about them than it does our captain.

I dont see even a mere glimpse of anything intelligent in your response.

You're not Dazzer are you?

[Toffeehater]

Steven Gerrard = LFC IMO , the one player who has fought , dragged us out of so many ditches and tbh i think he's fed up that he's not getting the quality of players around him that he deserves to be playing with week in and week out. He will always be my favourite player even if he leaves LFC , he's a legend and with the amount this club has produced , anyone who doesn't have him in their all time XI has to be joking.

[Reg]

Been watching this club for a long long time and he will always be in my best ever 11.

Thats not in question mate, but the journalist is wondering how we go forward from here and whether Gerrard is 'too much' for the rest of the team, ie he's become - whether we or he likes it or not, a detrimental influence by default - no one is able to play to his standards.

Its a state of mind thing that the guy's asking, not questioning his playing ability.