Robbie keane - [EDIT: On His Way Back to Spurs]

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Postby tonyeh » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:44 am

Scottbot wrote:I'd suggest a few of you watch back the chance he had in yesterday's game. The ball sits up a touch, the keeper gets out very quickly and makes himself big, he could have elected to go around the keeper but it was split second stuff. The keeper made a very good save, lets not forget that. If it had happened at the other end with the likes of Johnson shooting, would our focus have been "how the hell did Johnson miss that absolute sitter!!!" or would we be praising our goalkeeper for a tremendous save? I'm not saying he shouldn't have scored but I do think the keeper deserves credit for a fantastic save and i think others would be giving the keeper some of that credit HAD it been TORRES and not Keane in that position.

Mmmmm, I'm glad someone else noticed this. While Keane's chance was the best of the 5 clear cut chances Liverpool actually made all game, it was great save by Schwartzer that denied the goal. In fact the Fulham goalie was one of the better players on the pitch Saturday and made at least 2 match saving moves for his team.

The fact is, despite all the bitching and moaning about Keane's miss, is that Liverpool as a whole were terrible. They created very little from midfield for the forwards to recieve, which meant that both Torres and Keane kept having to drop back all the time to pick up the ball. When they got forward they had very little room to move and bar Torres getting past the defence on one occasion down the left hand side during the 2nd half, they were closed out for much of the game.

But, there's no excuses for any of the team on the weekend. They played badly as a unit and in the words of Rafa "lacked passion". Kuyt's passing was awful, Babel gave the ball away numerous times in his short period on the pitch and Lucas was just Lucas, extremely mediocre. The back four had a relatively quiet game, so there isn't really much to be said there.

Add to that some very bad decisions by Rafa and the day was fecked. Lucas should NEVER have taken the place of Alonso and Riera (who caused Fulham loads of problems down the left) should never have been subbed for Babel.

Liverpool are still riding the luck they've had since the season began. One of the commentators on Saturday said it's been decades since Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool had no goals together on the same day they all played.

I can't vouch for that though, even if it was pretty remarkable that Chelsea and Utd didn't get wins on the same day that Liverpool fluffed the perfect chance to go top.
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:01 am

He is way out of his debt at Liverpool cannot believe Rafa payed 20 million for him either.
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Postby Bam » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:51 am

Liverpool are still riding the luck they've had since the season began


We wouldnt of rode our luck had you're icon put away that sitter. :p
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Postby tonyeh » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:58 am

My icon?
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Postby Bam » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:00 am

Oui
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Postby tonyeh » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:19 am

Care to explain?
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Postby Bam » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:25 am

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Postby tonyeh » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:36 am

Brilliant.
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:39 am

glad thats sorted then :D

we can pick out a million and one excuses  but at the end of the day Liverpool should be able to beat Fulham at Anfield 99 times out of 100. just one of those days. At least it wasn't a loss.

As for Robbie Keane, he should come good. how long it'll take is anyones guess.
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Postby Bam » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:49 am

Lee J wrote:glad thats sorted then :D

we can pick out a million and one excuses  but at the end of the day Liverpool should be able to beat Fulham at Anfield 99 times out of 100. just one of those days. At least it wasn't a loss.

As for Robbie Keane, he should come good. how long it'll take is anyones guess.
Should we get rid in January? nah, he's got the club at heart. He will try and try and try...

I agree Lee.

Where ya taking ya misses this weekend ?  :D
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Postby devaney » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:58 am

Scottbot wrote:I'd suggest a few of you watch back the chance he had in yesterday's game. The ball sits up a touch, the keeper gets out very quickly and makes himself big, he could have elected to go around the keeper but it was split second stuff. The keeper made a very good save, lets not forget that. If it had happened at the other end with the likes of Johnson shooting, would our focus have been "how the hell did Johnson miss that absolute sitter!!!" or would we be praising our goalkeeper for a tremendous save? I'm not saying he shouldn't have scored but I do think the keeper deserves credit for a fantastic save and i think others would be giving the keeper some of that credit HAD it been TORRES and not Keane in that position.

Watched it depressingly several times and yes the goal keeper did his job but it was a poor effort by Robbie and probably if were truthful what we have come to expect from Rbobie at the moment.
Take a look at the two very similar chances that Anelka has had in the last three weeks and he scored from both of them - just compare the technique - both of Anelka's were in total control and well Robbie's wasn't. We just cannot afford for him to keep missing these golden chances if we really are going to mount a serious title challenge towards the end of the season.
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:58 pm

Bam wrote:
Lee J wrote:glad thats sorted then :D

we can pick out a million and one excuses  but at the end of the day Liverpool should be able to beat Fulham at Anfield 99 times out of 100. just one of those days. At least it wasn't a loss.

As for Robbie Keane, he should come good. how long it'll take is anyones guess.
Should we get rid in January? nah, he's got the club at heart. He will try and try and try...

I agree Lee.

Where ya taking ya misses this weekend ?  :D

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Postby JamCar05 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:19 pm

I must admit that I too am becoming more and more frustrated with Keane. It's not that I'm not willing him to come good - of course I am, we all want what's best for LFC. It's not the fact that he missed our biggest chance yesterday aswell (as some have pointed out, the goalie also deserves some credit for that, and Torres has missed equally big chances during his time at LFC), but it's the fact that he seems to disappear completely in quite a few games like against Fulham. There we were at home in a game we're definitely expected to win, and one of our two strikers just sort of vanished (especially in the second half). Seriously, I almost forgot he was on the field for the entire second half (which TBF is perhaps because that usually never happens :D), except for the few times he misplaced some easy passes or ran in the way of Torres.

Now I'm not saying Keane is to blame for us not winning the game, as we were generally lacking creativity and penetration, but I am becoming a bit concerned with his anonymous performances, which seems to be outweighing his good performances thus far. There's still plenty of time for him to come good of course, but at the moment I'm just not holdning my breath. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong though, as I still believe there is a good player hidden somewhere in Keane. I just hope that player starts to turn up a bit more often, as we can't afford to be relying solely on Torres and Stevie.
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Postby Reg » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:22 pm

Of course its frustrating and I´m sure he feels under intense pressure however only by playing is he going to gain confidence, relax and start slotting them.

Maybe he would benefit from half a dozen games in the reserves to get out of the spotlight and relax a little.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:33 pm

Thats the old school way we used to do reg - buy a player and shove him in the ressies for a while no matter what he price was to get him used to being at liverpool .
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