Liverpool FC Forum

[Ben Patrick]

It's official - we are now a mediocre, small club.

Who's next? Bobby Zamora? Jesus wept!

I can undestand to an extent people being less than overwhelmed by some of the names we are being linked with.
But what you really have to do is weigh up whether they are going to be an improvement on who is playing at the moment.
Konchesky is a comfortable upgrade on Insua who played the majority of last season.
Carlton Cole (if he signs) would be a comfortably better option than Ngog.

Happy enough me.

[Emerald Red]

It's official - we are now a mediocre, small club.

Who's next? Bobby Zamora? Jesus wept!

I can undestand to an extent people being less than overwhelmed by some of the names we are being linked with.
But what you really have to do is weigh up whether they are going to be an improvement on who is playing at the moment.
Konchesky is a comfortable upgrade on Insua who played the majority of last season.
Carlton Cole (if he signs) would be a comfortably better option than Ngog.

Happy enough me.

You're having a joke, right? Overwhelmed by Carlton Cole and Konchesky?

Quality.

Mid-table teams should be happy to sign players like that. Not us. We're supposed to be one of the biggest clubs on the planet, but we're signing the dregs of the EPL and people expect that we should be happy about it? What a joke we've become.

[dawson99]

Think we got a few money probalems at the moment, you may have read about it... we are just getting players to add to the stability of the squad

[Ben Patrick]

It's official - we are now a mediocre, small club.

Who's next? Bobby Zamora? Jesus wept!

I can undestand to an extent people being less than overwhelmed by some of the names we are being linked with.
But what you really have to do is weigh up whether they are going to be an improvement on who is playing at the moment.
Konchesky is a comfortable upgrade on Insua who played the majority of last season.
Carlton Cole (if he signs) would be a comfortably better option than Ngog.

Happy enough me.

You're having a joke, right? Overwhelmed by Carlton Cole and Konchesky?

Quality.

Mid-table teams should be happy to sign players like that. Not us. We're supposed to be one of the biggest clubs on the planet, but we're signing the dregs of the EPL and people expect that we should be happy about it? What a joke we've become.

Put it into context.

If we dont have the money to do what you want, would you prefer we did nothing ?
Or signed better players than the ones last season ?

[The Good Yank]

Mid-table teams should be happy to sign players like that. Not us. We're supposed to be one of the biggest clubs on the planet, but we're signing the dregs of the EPL and people expect that we should be happy about it? What a joke we've become.

So who should we sign then?  And at what price?  Don't forget we don't have Champions League to offer.

The transparency of the stance from which your arguement is based on is plain.  Yes the owners are and we haven't got money for the players we would really like to see brought in.

But what are we supposed to do, sit around with our thumbs up our asses and not fill in the holes in the squad?  We have a squad that is so thin that Konchesky is actually the best LB to sign for us in about 6 years.  If Cole signed he'd immedietlely improve our options up front.

[Calum]

"What a joke we've become."?

What about Voronin, Morientes, Pennant, Diouf, Dossena, Riera, Lucas, and N'Gog to name a few? We've had to settle for second/third rate players like them already and I would say Konchesky and Cole are of better quality than that lot.

[Emerald Red]

It's official - we are now a mediocre, small club.

Who's next? Bobby Zamora? Jesus wept!

I can undestand to an extent people being less than overwhelmed by some of the names we are being linked with.
But what you really have to do is weigh up whether they are going to be an improvement on who is playing at the moment.
Konchesky is a comfortable upgrade on Insua who played the majority of last season.
Carlton Cole (if he signs) would be a comfortably better option than Ngog.

Happy enough me.

You're having a joke, right? Overwhelmed by Carlton Cole and Konchesky?

Quality.

Mid-table teams should be happy to sign players like that. Not us. We're supposed to be one of the biggest clubs on the planet, but we're signing the dregs of the EPL and people expect that we should be happy about it? What a joke we've become.

Put it into context.

If we dont have the money to do what you want, would you prefer we did nothing ?
Or signed better players than the ones last season ?

You're correct!

All I'm saying is that this is the state of the club that we are now reduced to signing players like these. They are never good enough for this club, but find it odd that people are more than happy in accepting it.

[carmonkeycasino]

Agreed. We are not a joke. We are short on money. We can afford a few players or we can afford one good quality signing. I reckon we're doing the right thing and adding some stability to the squad. As soon as/if we get investment then i am sure Roy will go after players with more quality. What people have to realise is that we are no longer a top four team, but we must work to get back there. Tottenham were in the top four last season and they were there on merit. We may be one of the biggest clubs on the planet BUT the club needs to work, be smart, take time and not make any more stupid mistakes if we want to get back where we belong.

I'm really happy with what Hodge has done so far. He is the right man for the job.

[Emerald Red]

"What a joke we've become."?

What about Voronin, Morientes, Pennant, Diouf, Dossena, Riera, Lucas, and N'Gog to name a few? We've had to settle for second/third rate players like them already and I would say Konchesky and Cole are of better quality than that lot.

How many of them have come and have been sold on at either a profit or no loss at all? How much did we sign N'gog for? How much is he worth now? Didn't we make a profit on Voronin, whom we bought for nought? More or less got the money back from Dossena, and the only one I can see on that list that was a massive dud is Diouf. Gobsh*te of a player, bought for over 10 mill, and sold at a massive loss.

The difference between those players and the ones we are signing is that the ones we are now siging are a known quantity. We see them play week-in-week-out in the Prem, and they are wooden ones to put it lightly. The others were signed as potential prospects (bar Voronin) and still sold on for profit. Can you see us selling these on at a profit? No. We're signing driftwood now. We are selling quality and potential and replacing it with mediocricy. Not Roy's fault. You know who's fault it is.

[dawson99]

Were finally signing players with premiership experience, who we know can do a job.. less risk...

[Ben Patrick]

"What a joke we've become."?

What about Voronin, Morientes, Pennant, Diouf, Dossena, Riera, Lucas, and N'Gog to name a few? We've had to settle for second/third rate players like them already and I would say Konchesky and Cole are of better quality than that lot.

How many of them have come and have been sold on at either a profit or no loss at all? How much did we sign N'gog for? How much is he worth now? Didn't we make a profit on Voronin, whom we bought for nought? More or less got the money back from Dossena, and the only one I can see on that list that was a massive dud is Diouf. Gobsh*te of a player, bought for over 10 mill, and sold at a massive loss.

The difference between those players and the ones we are signing is that the ones we are now siging are a known quantity. We see them play week-in-week-out in the Prem, and they are wooden ones to put it lightly. The others were signed as potential prospects (bar Voronin) and still sold on for profit. Can you see us selling these on at a profit? No. We're signing driftwood now. We are selling quality and potential and replacing it with mediocricy. Not Roy's fault. You know who's fault it is.

You mate are a moaner and if you think half of the sh!te your trying to defend there are better than the ones coming in now then i am seriously amazed.
It doesnt matter that Voronin came for free, he was garbage and should never have been signed.
Carlton Cole is in a different league to Voronin and Ngog.
The previous managers left backs hardly set the world alight.
7 million on Dossena 
I would rather Konchesky all day, and by the way did we sh!te more or less get the money back on Dossena.

[mramo]

Not sure what people on here are moaning about? This is a guy who is most comrfortable in Left-back, and not forgetting almost scored the winner against us in the FA Cup Final. If offered to play Insua or Konchesky, I would pick the latter.

[Fauxy]

Until the club gets sold we need to expect and deal with these kind of signings.

So quit moaning!

[mart]

I'm very underwhelmed by this signing, but hopefully we at least use a left back as a left back from now on.

[Lando_Griffin]

"What a joke we've become."?

What about Voronin, Morientes, Pennant, Diouf, Dossena, Riera, Lucas, and N'Gog to name a few? We've had to settle for second/third rate players like them already and I would say Konchesky and Cole are of better quality than that lot.

Morientes a second/third rate player below the quality of Carlton f*cking Cole and Paul Koncheski. 

Riera was and is a good player and Spanish International.

Lucas has just been called up to the Brazil squad and has already played more than twice the amount of games for them as Konchesky has managed for England.

N'Gog is a talent. If you can't see that, you're blind.

Pennant was a gamble forced on the manager after the Sabrosa and Alves deals fell through due to a lack of funds/Parry's trust.

(Whatever happened to them? )

Dossena was an Italian International who clearly struggled to adapt to the pace of the English game and zonal marking.

Diouf and Voronin I'll give you, but Voro was free, remember? We also got some money in for him when he left.

You seriously could not wish for a more informed fanbase.