Michael owen - We need him and he needs us

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Postby Reg » Thu May 24, 2007 5:16 pm

Thats it Rafa lad, get it off your chest...


Cant argue with anything you say mind, I think its the rose-tinted sunglasses lot who want him back.
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Postby Rafa D » Thu May 24, 2007 5:19 pm

It just winds me up mate.

Every so often this type of thread rears its head and I can't believe people would want him back after the way he left us.
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Postby tubby » Thu May 24, 2007 5:21 pm

Rafa-Dodd wrote:£9m for a cabbage.

His injuries could of ruined him and what exactly has he done since he left us? Nothing of any worthy note.


I have every right to feel aggrieved that the little Welsh cu.nt left us in a moment of need. We have looked after him from the age of 6 and watched him develop and help him grow as a person and as a player. He was our golden boy when he was here and everyone looked after him for all those years and for what? £8m

So all the hardwork Heighway put in, all the coaches, all the managers, David Moores and Rick Parry, giving him large contracts and the fans giving him complete adulation and he turned his back on all of that for £8M.


He's a little fu.cking shi.thead and I hope I never see him wearing our shirt, because frankly he aint worthy.

Did he give Rafa a chance?

Did he sign a contract (like Cashley) so we wouldn't get shafted on the fee?

Did he give us a firm answer for over a year about what he wanted to do? (So his contract and value dwindled)

DID HE FU.CK!!

I'd take any of our strikers over him any day of the week because they love the club, he loves himself.

He might have done some questionable things when he left but the fact remains he has the quality still ( I hope).

If we manage to bag a big striker like Etoo or Villa then fair play but they will cost a hell of a lot even if we do and even then I think only Etoo would cope in England.

Michael Owen on the other hand would be perfect as he would only cost 9 Mil leaving us to slash out on some real quality on the wings and at the back.

I cant speak for all the supporters but id love to seem him back and im sure he would love to come back.
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Postby Chrissy » Thu May 24, 2007 5:25 pm

I wouldnt mind having Lil' MO back, as long as it wasnt a huge money transfer and hes not taking up a lot of wages.
He is very injur prone, so if he gets that sorted and back on form, then up his wages. If not, well... who knows.

Give him his chance I think.
Unlikely any of this will happen though.
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Postby Reg » Thu May 24, 2007 5:26 pm

Owen and Kewell are too injury prone to gamble building a team with them as centre-pieces.

Its like when you see a gorgeous blonde with great big...... shopping bags and you think to yourself 'I'd love a girl like that but she's gonna cost me a fortune and's not going to be worth the trouble'. 

The only difference is Mikey's not blonde. ???
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Postby tubby » Thu May 24, 2007 5:27 pm

Reg wrote:Owen and Kewell are too injury prone to gamble building a team with them as centre-pieces.

Its like when you see a gorgeous blonde with great big...... shopping bags and you think to yourself 'I'd love a girl like that but she's gonna cost me a fortune and's not going to be worth the trouble'. 

The only difference is Mikey's not blonde. ???

Call me a sceptic but I think he has become injury prone due to :censored: training facilities from when Souness was there.

For some reason injuries have plaugued any team he managed. From when he managed us and Blackburn aswell.
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Postby destro » Thu May 24, 2007 5:30 pm

Its nothing to do with rose tinted glasses its an obvious observation, we need goalscorers he is one of the best, he is proven at premiership level. You might take any of our current strikers over him and settle for 3rd every season or reach European Finals and lose, i set my sights a lot higher than that.

Say we do sign him and his goals help us win the league, are you still going to  be saying i didnt want him back ! Or you will celebrate like every other LIVERPOOL fan, maybe not so much at Owen himself but at what he has been part of
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Postby NiftyNeil » Thu May 24, 2007 5:33 pm

ah, the now annual Michael Owen thread is back - it must be summer :D

A fit Michael Owen will always get goals, but will he stay fit. He's just had his knee rebuilt, so how will that affect his future ability?
Personally, I'd love to see him back. But I can't see Rafa letting him have another bite of the cherry.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu May 24, 2007 5:33 pm

If we had just won the league and the CL I would be more than willing to agree Rafa. As we havn't, maybe we might just need him. I may be more cynical than you mate, but I think most people and players look after their own interests first. LOYALTY is a dying breed mate, as long as he scores the goals why worry? Do you think Newcastle will worry about what club he loves as long as he scores for them? Do you think every Liverpool player would stay if they were offered shed loads of money to go?

As Rafa (Benitez  :D )  said, we need to take two steps at a time to catch up, signing Owen would be one big step.
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Postby Rafa D » Thu May 24, 2007 5:37 pm

I've already stated if Rafa brought him back, I'd give him my full support at every match.

I can't believe people want him back and I'm glad Rafa's a man of morals.

He made his bed, let him fu.cking sleep in it.


I don't settle for 3rd every year, but I want players here who WANT to play for this club, not just for the money and the glory.
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Postby Rafa D » Thu May 24, 2007 5:41 pm

s@int wrote:If we had just won the league and the CL I would be more than willing to agree Rafa. As we havn't, maybe we might just need him. I may be more cynical than you mate, but I think most people and players look after their own interests first. LOYALTY is a dying breed mate, as long as he scores the goals why worry? Do you think Newcastle will worry about what club he loves as long as he scores for them? Do you think every Liverpool player would stay if they were offered shed loads of money to go?

As Rafa (Benitez  :D )  said, we need to take two steps at a time to catch up, signing Owen would be one big step.

On the subject of loyalty S@int, what I am saying is players like Fowler, Gerrard, Carra wouldn't leave this club for anything. They grew up in the club being looked after, and doing things the Liverpool way. So did Owen but he turned his back on us mate and he did it slyly.

Can you honestly see Carra, Gerrard or Fowler running off to another club for money? I can't.

Owen knew the lower fee, his potential club paid, the more money he would get for his salary.
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Postby Big Niall » Thu May 24, 2007 5:49 pm

He did carry the team for years though. He played under a fool of a manager who at times thought Heskey was our main striker, and he had to watch the ball being hoofed up the pitch.

Real Madrid are a great club (8 or 9 European cups) so I don't begrudge him jumping at the chance, I imagine he was fed up of not winning a top rate trophy (league or CL) in his time here.

Is there another proven premiership player, with experience, still in 20s guaranteed 20+ goals.
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Postby redtrader74 » Thu May 24, 2007 5:49 pm

Taking back owen is a really tough question for me, and i guess i want owen the footballer back, but not owen the man.
Without a shadow of doubt he has far more quality and killer instinct than all our strikers at present put together. People talk about bent and baldy from neverton, but after a year out and no games he will be first the first name on the England sqaud. He will always score goals and we more than anyone know that.

The problem is that the greedy little Bastard left us like a rat leaves a sinking ship, which we admittedly were at the time. So he shows us he was just a fair weather friend. He was not a bought player, we were his only club, we nurtured him, we made him a millionaire, we paid him when he was injured, and he was adored by the best supportes in the land.

I know he is talented but we still gave him his chance, plenty of other teams may have considered him too small and weak for the prem.

I am not too concerned about his injuries, if Rafa continues to rotate, he won't be overplayed so the likelyhood of injury may fall.

My biggest problem with him is that he left us for nothing(£8m) by running down his contract, had he re-signed for us he could still have left and got us £25m, but the motivation was greed, i can hear his adviser right now, 'He only cost you 8m, so you can afford to give us a massive signing on fee and wages' That is what stinks.

Should he come back i will still give him my support and a chance to prove himself as i would anyone in a Liverpool shirt, but he will never get anywhere near the respect that Fowler, Rush, Barnes,Kenny etc. do .

If he were to come back this summer, it would also be the clearest example of his character, because to leave Newcastle after they spent 17m plus 100+k a week while he sat at home would be disloyalty of the highest order.
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Postby Well Red » Thu May 24, 2007 5:53 pm

how anyone can want Owen is beyond me.

this is a player who, despite being adored by the Kopites and having the team built around him, quit Anfield because according to him we weren't good enough to compete for the big trophies, and who is now prepared to ditch Newcastle and all the fans there (15,000 turned up on the day he signed to welcome him to the club) after only a handful of games because of a sneaky contractual clause. He has shown no loyalty and not an ounce of respect to anyone other than his bank manager. Owen disgusts me - all that's left now is for him to sign his soul away to the Mancs or Chavs.

I'd rather Carra was put up front for us in next season's campaign, finish the season without a goal to his name, but be able to see him putting in 100% effort week-in-week-out for the team and to win the loyal fans over with commitment and passion. Owen will never be remotely like Jamie because he doesn't see himself as a servant of the club - and therefore he's not good enough for Liverpool.
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Postby Kukilon » Thu May 24, 2007 5:59 pm

Well Red wrote:how anyone can want Owen is beyond me.

this is a player who, despite being adored by the Kopites and having the team built around him, quit Anfield because according to him we weren't good enough to compete for the big trophies, and who is now prepared to ditch Newcastle and all the fans there (15,000 turned up on the day he signed to welcome him to the club) after only a handful of games because of a sneaky contractual clause. He has shown no loyalty and not an ounce of respect to anyone other than his bank manager. Owen disgusts me - all that's left now is for him to sign his soul away to the Mancs or Chavs.

I'd rather Carra was put up front for us in next season's campaign, finish the season without a goal to his name, but be able to see him putting in 100% effort week-in-week-out for the team and to win the loyal fans over with commitment and passion. Owen will never be remotely like Jamie because he doesn't see himself as a servant of the club - and therefore he's not good enough for Liverpool.

Amen to that.  :bowdown
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