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I predict Kenny will be gone in the summer although he should be thanked for steadying the ship, we need to spend at least £100 million on a top notch striker and 2 good defenders plus if we could get another experienced striker in as cover then that would be great. That should be enough to get us 4th place next year but the key thing is a new manager and perhaps it's time to give Rafa another chance. I now see that what i used to criticise him for was really the fault of Purslow and the tw1t and tw@t.[/quote]

if kenny is to go then it will have to be by his own accord rather than being sacked by fsg.thats the only way they can avoid the wrath of the fans.
personally i dont mind if kenny is here next season and he probably should be given a chance to turn it around as if we get a new manager he would have to be given time also,so we could find ourselves in the same situation in another 18 mths if a new manager is installed and he hasnt transformed us instantly.
we do need a top notch striker but not so sure about the defence atm as i think we are ok and have good competition for the places and an excellent back 4 when all are available.
its the midfield that needs a serious overhaul imo.
would putting rafa back in the hotseat be the best move though?.
his only downfall was all the infighting in the boardroom and he let that affect him and the results,but he was then removed before we got new owners and he never got the chance to get us back on track.
i like benitez but maybe there is too many hurdles standing in his way.

[7_Kewell]

Kenny did an amazing job of steadying the ship after the H&G debacle.

The problem is we lack vision, on and off the field. There doesn't appear to be a unified direction and half the time our squad look like strangers. You can't turn back the clock and the methods Kenny used to win the league with Blackburn and Liverpool are out dated today.  For me, Kenny is a few paces out of step with the modern game and it shows in his decision making.

[Thommo's perm]

Andy Carroll is doing everything right, except for scoring goals and unfortunately a strikers main task is to score goals. 3 goals in one season is a very poor record.

3 goals is a terrible return but to be fair to him he has been in and out of the side all season, it must be hard to build up any momentum as a front man when your constantly in and out of the side.
he might be on the bench for 3 games, start the next game, be on the bench but come on as a sub the next and then back on the bench for a couple of games.
i must admit i was surprised that dalglish didnt start him at old trafford when we played united especially considering carroll was playing his best footy since he arrived at the club at the time and again the weekend against sunderland i was surprised he didnt start him that game, especially when you looked at the state of the pitch.

in fairness to the lad he has only made 14 starts this year and 11 apps as a sub which has yielded 3 goals.
kuyt has played the same no of games with 17 starts and 7 sub apps which has yielded 1 goal.
suarez has played 22 games and 2 as a sub with 6 goals.
bellamy has played 21 games with 9 starts and 12 as a sub and has managed 6 goals.
so statistically bellamy is our best striker and with less starts than any of the other 3.
our problems lie in what we have playing in the midfield and the lack of support and chances they create for the front men.our strikers are decent enough imo and would have a much better conversion rate if they wernt expected to recieve the ball in our own half,run the lenght of the field and finish it.
if i was to choose who was our worst striker this year then kuyt wins it hands down and not andy.

A goalscorer thrives on chances. The likes of Shearer, Fowler, Rush, Aldridge and to a certain degree Lineacre will always get goals because they had great service but were in the right place at the right time. Others depend more on great service like Defoe, Bent, Crouch, Van Persie. Rooney is doing it now; tap ins and penalties through other peoples work.
Take the service away from the striker and youre left with a problem. Thats what has happened in most part to Carroll and Suarez. We have been lacking in creativity and service and we have paid the price. Add on to this the unbelievable curse of the woodwork and we can see why we are struggling for goals. You cant blame it all on the strikers. They need the service. Like Shrek.

[D___C]

Andy Carroll is doing everything right, except for scoring goals and unfortunately a strikers main task is to score goals. 3 goals in one season is a very poor record.

Sorry but when did constantly being in the wrong place mean that a striker was doing everything right? Carroll is quite simply a terrible striker, in the same way that Adam is a terrible midfielder. Downing is showing some promise and Henderson was always a player for the future who should not be being played as much as he is.


I predict Kenny will be gone in the summer although he should be thanked for steadying the ship, we need to spend at least £100 million on a top notch striker and 2 good defenders plus if we could get another experienced striker in as cover then that would be great. That should be enough to get us 4th place next year but the key thing is a new manager and perhaps it's time to give Rafa another chance. I now see that what i used to criticise him for was really the fault of Purslow and the tw1t and tw@t.

I concur with the assessement of the four UK signings.

On Kenny, well he steadied the ship in the last 5 months of last season. Unfortunately hes began to tip it over this. The team we have now have no chance of sniffing top 4 next season so major ins and outs will need to happen in the summer for us to have any.

Carroll will fetch no more than 15 million tops. Adam we would get the 8 million back. That 23 million would then go towards whatever Kenny, whom i believe will still be here, is given on top of that. The two most needy areas are a striker and a central midfielder. We should spend everything we have on those two signings. No more midtable level players who wont push us forward.

[Thommo's perm]

Andy Carroll is doing everything right, except for scoring goals and unfortunately a strikers main task is to score goals. 3 goals in one season is a very poor record.

Sorry but when did constantly being in the wrong place mean that a striker was doing everything right? Carroll is quite simply a terrible striker, in the same way that Adam is a terrible midfielder. Downing is showing some promise and Henderson was always a player for the future who should not be being played as much as he is.


I predict Kenny will be gone in the summer although he should be thanked for steadying the ship, we need to spend at least £100 million on a top notch striker and 2 good defenders plus if we could get another experienced striker in as cover then that would be great. That should be enough to get us 4th place next year but the key thing is a new manager and perhaps it's time to give Rafa another chance. I now see that what i used to criticise him for was really the fault of Purslow and the tw1t and tw@t.

I concur with the assessement of the four UK signings.

On Kenny, well he steadied the ship in the last 5 months of last season. Unfortunately hes began to tip it over this. The team we have now have no chance of sniffing top 4 next season so major ins and outs will need to happen in the summer for us to have any.

Carroll will fetch no more than 15 million tops. Adam we would get the 8 million back. That 23 million would then go towards whatever Kenny, whom i believe will still be here, is given on top of that. The two most needy areas are a striker and a central midfielder. We should spend everything we have on those two signings. No more midtable level players who wont push us forward.

Dont you like Carroll? Put aside what he cost for a moment. Dont you think he is a good player who is underperforming?

[D___C]

No i think hes performing to his level. That apparent "good" spell he had, by any decent players standards was average, its only because he did nothing before it that made it look "good".

Carroll lays off a basic pass, and its "well done Andy". Its like the dumb kid in school who goes from getting 20 out of 100 to 42 out of 100, and patronisingly gets a gold star.

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No i think hes performing to his level. That apparent "good" spell he had, by any decent players standards was average, its only because he did nothing before it that made it look "good".

Carroll lays off a basic pass, and its "well done Andy". Its like the dumb kid in school who goes from getting 20 out of 100 to 42 out of 100, and patronisingly gets a gold star.

Be honest, youve never liked him have you?
Youve said it for months

[maypaxvobiscum]

No i think hes performing to his level. That apparent "good" spell he had, by any decent players standards was average, its only because he did nothing before it that made it look "good".

Carroll lays off a basic pass, and its "well done Andy". Its like the dumb kid in school who goes from getting 20 out of 100 to 42 out of 100, and patronisingly gets a gold star.

  it's so true it's almost scary!

[D___C]

What do u mean "be honest".. as if theres something to confess.

Because hes a poor player i've never liked him. His signing flabbergasted the country. The comments on the opening page of his thread echo mine.

[Thommo's perm]

What do u mean "be honest".. as if theres something to confess.

Because hes a poor player i've never liked him. His signing flabbergasted the country. The comments on the opening page of his thread echo mine.

I mean be honest as in are you Kerry come back with a different name?

[Thommo's perm]

KK got it right tonight. Tactics, formation, team selection.
Gerrard, Suarez and Carroll is the way. Come on KK start games with these three every week

[Kenny Kan]

Kenny should stick with four in midfield - he has to, the players seem to know what is expected of them and we always seem to play more expansive football under Kenny when 2 are up front.

I thought Spearing and Gerrard as a partnership did really well tonight, Spearing kops a bit of flack and I think it's unfair - he sits, he gets stuck in, he covers the ground and he plays it simple. No other midfielder (Lucas not included) does this for us and it frees up Gerrard, both Spearing and Gerrard know their respective roles, when Adam is in there instead of Spearing it's not as coherent.

Just giving Suarez that support up front with Andy alongside him enables the Uruguayan to get into the game more, and instead of one striker pressing their defence there are now two defending from the front. Big Andy is Heskey-esque in that he always comes back for the set-pieces and defends, but he isn't mobile or athletic enough to catch up with play if we break quickly. So the onus has to be on Henderson, Downing and Gerrard to support Suarez on a counter attack. But Carroll did play his part in a good team performance tonight and some of his play was very good - I'd just like to see him holding his position more right up against their CB's instead of dropping deep as much as he does, he should be our focal point of attack, not a 'worker' of our attack.

I thought Henderson did a good job tonight and some of his passing was excellent - the lad does have the vision to play defense splitting passes and the technical ability to weight his pass to perfection, Suarez should have done better with the outside of the foot shot (Kop end) when Henderson put him through.

With the extra space we leave in midfield when playing 4, it isn't surprising to see us 'look' more vulnerable in defense but I'd happily take the balance if it gives us more in attack.

4-4-2 Kenny, you know it makes sense.

Opta Liverpool ‏ @OptaLiverpool
11 - Liverpool have scored 11 goals in the 3 matches in which Steven Gerrard, Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll started together

[metalhead]

Andy Carroll is doing everything right, except for scoring goals and unfortunately a strikers main task is to score goals. 3 goals in one season is a very poor record.

Sorry but when did constantly being in the wrong place mean that a striker was doing everything right? Carroll is quite simply a terrible striker, in the same way that Adam is a terrible midfielder. Downing is showing some promise and Henderson was always a player for the future who should not be being played as much as he is.


I predict Kenny will be gone in the summer although he should be thanked for steadying the ship, we need to spend at least £100 million on a top notch striker and 2 good defenders plus if we could get another experienced striker in as cover then that would be great. That should be enough to get us 4th place next year but the key thing is a new manager and perhaps it's time to give Rafa another chance. I now see that what i used to criticise him for was really the fault of Purslow and the tw1t and tw@t.

Heimdall back to his best lol

[Thommo's perm]

Andy Carroll is doing everything right, except for scoring goals and unfortunately a strikers main task is to score goals. 3 goals in one season is a very poor record.

Sorry but when did constantly being in the wrong place mean that a striker was doing everything right? Carroll is quite simply a terrible striker, in the same way that Adam is a terrible midfielder. Downing is showing some promise and Henderson was always a player for the future who should not be being played as much as he is.


I predict Kenny will be gone in the summer although he should be thanked for steadying the ship, we need to spend at least £100 million on a top notch striker and 2 good defenders plus if we could get another experienced striker in as cover then that would be great. That should be enough to get us 4th place next year but the key thing is a new manager and perhaps it's time to give Rafa another chance. I now see that what i used to criticise him for was really the fault of Purslow and the tw1t and tw@t.

Heimdall back to his best lol

Is Kerry his daughter?

[maguskwt]

If Kerry is a girl like you say he/she is, don't you think that you should stop picking on girls?   

Besides I think Kerry has basis in his/her posts... so some people on here should stop the bullying act. This is like how Benny was being hounded last time for his critique on Hodgson...