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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:27 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Hasn't he been on the match for about the last 8 weeks ?

Even when a spot became available for him yesterday the manager decided to go for Maxi ?

It's quite plain to see that Cole was a bad a signing as Poulsen , Konchesky and others and should be shipped out to enable us to get some true quality in and to free up wages and to let a youngster take his place in the squad .

Perhaps his wages would help free up the wage bill and that may happen but pretending to know what Kenny thinks isn't really my forte.

How do you know Cole would have lasted 60, 70, 80 or even 90 minutes? Perhaps that's why Maxi started.

Well considering Maxi has hardly played recently as well I'm guessing it came down to who Kenny thought would provide us more and he picked Maxi .
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Postby burjennio » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:29 pm

We have no chance getting rid of him because no one in their right mind is going to match his wages. He needs to up his game though I think hes done tbh he has absolutely no pace anymore so all his little tricks just look laboured and wasteful.

look at Maxi, he has been so bad to the point some don't even know his surname and many looking forward to his departure but suddenly he pops out with 3 goals. keep Joe Cole, he will come useful in the future.


One good game against a terrible side after 50 terrible performances doesnt mean Maxi Rodriquez should be anywhere near getting a contract extension either! There are alot of names that will be getting moved on this summer and those two guys in my eyes should be on that list, but for the reasons mentioned above I dont think Cole will realistically be one of them. Jovanavic is another on stupid money who will never have a club match the wages he's on. We're going to have to pay these guys for the pleasure of having them leave! If it was Purslow who negotiated these contracts he should be hit for the payoffs out of his own pocket.
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:30 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Greavesie wrote:I wouldn't sell Cole either. Strength in depth is going to be key. I'm all for selling our poorer players and yes, Cole is probably one of them, but we can't give ourselves too much to do in the summer (there are players here a LOT worse than Cole). Cole is good enough to come in when needed, we're going to need these types of players next season, same goes for Lucas

When you pay a player 90 grand a week you expect that player to be earning it week in week out - that's the sort of money you give a regular starter not someone to be part of a squad . We have young kids who IMO will provide a better back up than Cole .

I'm not talking about figures Benny. I'm just saying out of the many players we need to clear out, Cole is lower on the list. A mass overhaul changes too much too quickly and gives us too much to do

Every team needs balance of youth, squad players and key players. Cole can be a player that comes in and does a job. If we're going to compete on four fronts next season we're gonna need players like Cole, that's my point. I'm at least a little more confident with Cole being there because we all know what he can do, it hasn't worked so far but he's good enough, knows what he's doing and if we can get Cole playing like he did in his Chelsea years we're laughing

feck the figures mate, we've got loads of other cr@p to clear out
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Postby Kenny Kan » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:31 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Hasn't he been on the match for about the last 8 weeks ?

Even when a spot became available for him yesterday the manager decided to go for Maxi ?

It's quite plain to see that Cole was a bad a signing as Poulsen , Konchesky and others and should be shipped out to enable us to get some true quality in and to free up wages and to let a youngster take his place in the squad .

Perhaps his wages would help free up the wage bill and that may happen but pretending to know what Kenny thinks isn't really my forte.

How do you know Cole would have lasted 60, 70, 80 or even 90 minutes? Perhaps that's why Maxi started.

Well considering Maxi has hardly played recently as well I'm guessing it came down to who Kenny thought would provide us more and he picked Maxi .

So it's irrelevant that he may not be fully fit and of course your guessing about the scenario... Hmm ok.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:32 pm

Jovanovic is on 70 grand a week , Poulsen 50 grand even Konchesky is on 50 grand - that's a quarter of a million a week we waste .
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:33 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Jovanovic is on 70 grand a week , Poulsen 50 grand even Konchesky is on 50 grand - that's a quarter of a million a week we waste .

precisely, and they're all worse than Cole...
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:35 pm

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Benny The Noon wrote:
Greavesie wrote:I wouldn't sell Cole either. Strength in depth is going to be key. I'm all for selling our poorer players and yes, Cole is probably one of them, but we can't give ourselves too much to do in the summer (there are players here a LOT worse than Cole). Cole is good enough to come in when needed, we're going to need these types of players next season, same goes for Lucas

When you pay a player 90 grand a week you expect that player to be earning it week in week out - that's the sort of money you give a regular starter not someone to be part of a squad . We have young kids who IMO will provide a better back up than Cole .

I'm not talking about figures Benny. I'm just saying out of the many players we need to clear out, Cole is lower on the list. A mass overhaul changes too much too quickly and gives us too much to do

Every team needs balance of youth, squad players and key players. Cole can be a player that comes in and does a job. If we're going to compete on four fronts next season we're gonna need players like Cole, that's my point. I'm at least a little more confident with Cole being there because we all know what he can do, it hasn't worked so far but he's good enough, knows what he's doing and if we can get Cole playing like he did in his Chelsea years we're laughing

feck the figures mate, we've got loads of other cr@p to clear out

We cant say feck the figures mate when it becomes so crucial soon - we can only spend what we earn - so we cant have players earning 90 grand a week sat there doing nothing .

Cole hasnt come in and done a job all season long and i wouldnt trust him to do a job in the future .

Ever since his injury he has looked slow and laboured and zero pace and offers nothing to us - even as a squad player .
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:35 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Hasn't he been on the match for about the last 8 weeks ?

Even when a spot became available for him yesterday the manager decided to go for Maxi ?

It's quite plain to see that Cole was a bad a signing as Poulsen , Konchesky and others and should be shipped out to enable us to get some true quality in and to free up wages and to let a youngster take his place in the squad .

Perhaps his wages would help free up the wage bill and that may happen but pretending to know what Kenny thinks isn't really my forte.

How do you know Cole would have lasted 60, 70, 80 or even 90 minutes? Perhaps that's why Maxi started.

Well considering Maxi has hardly played recently as well I'm guessing it came down to who Kenny thought would provide us more and he picked Maxi .

So it's irrelevant that he may not be fully fit and of course your guessing about the scenario... Hmm ok.

If he isnt fully fit why has he been sat on the bench for the last month or so ?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:38 pm

Greavesie wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Jovanovic is on 70 grand a week , Poulsen 50 grand even Konchesky is on 50 grand - that's a quarter of a million a week we waste .

precisely, and they're all worse than Cole...

They are no worse or no better than Cole - you can lump them all in together as far as im concerned .

Deadweight with no future at the club .

Look at this recent article - it seems that the club is looking to doing a major overhaul before the new rules come into force



Liverpool are planning a radical overhaul of their squad this summer with a source at the club revealing that they are planning “up to 22 deals” in and out of the club.

Director of Football Damien Comolli has been working since his appointment to identify priority targets and will receive support from the club’s owners, the Fenway Sports Group, this summer as the club seek to build a squad capable of getting back into the Champions League.

Kenny Dalglish, who is hoping to remain as manager, has spoken of the need to complement the club’s emerging talent with investment and it is understood that Comolli and his scouting team located two or three targets for each position they want to strengthen.

Most of these are aged between 19 and 24 as the club wants to invest in players whose talent can be developed and whose value will increase.

Rennes winger Sylvain Marveaux is expected to be the first signing when the window opens on June 1.

The club are being described as “a long way down the road” to securing the Bosman free transfer of the former France Under-21 international.

Liverpool are looking at further reinforcements in the wide areas, another striker, a left-back and cover at centre back. If enough players can be sold, there could be as many as 11 signings.

As they showed in January, FSG are prepared to reinvest money received in fees into the squad – most of the cash received for Fernando Torres and Ryan Babel was put into signing Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez for £58 million.

Having a high turnover will also allow the club to address the issue of the excessive contracts that were handed out under the previous regime.

With the club’s commercial department landing some impressive deals – a record £25 million-a-year kit deal with Warrior follows a lucrative contract with Standard Chartered as shorts sponsor – and the club freed of servicing the debts that impeded them under Hicks and Gillett, Liverpool will finally be able to compete in the market.

The recent emergence of academy players Jay Spearing, Jack Robinson and John Flanagan means Liverpool can sell their fringe players with the confidence that they will not be left short next season, especially as Raheem Sterling and Conor Coady are also expected to be ready next term.

There will be great emphasis on trying to shift as many of the superfluous players as possible.

The club are working on trying to set up deals for the players out on loan – Paul Konchesky, Alberto Aquilani, Philipp Degen, Nabir El Zhar and Emiliano Insua – while there has also been interest in David Ngog, Sotirios Kyrgiakos and Milan Jovanovic, all of whom are for sale.
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Postby Kenny Kan » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:40 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Hasn't he been on the match for about the last 8 weeks ?

Even when a spot became available for him yesterday the manager decided to go for Maxi ?

It's quite plain to see that Cole was a bad a signing as Poulsen , Konchesky and others and should be shipped out to enable us to get some true quality in and to free up wages and to let a youngster take his place in the squad .

Perhaps his wages would help free up the wage bill and that may happen but pretending to know what Kenny thinks isn't really my forte.

How do you know Cole would have lasted 60, 70, 80 or even 90 minutes? Perhaps that's why Maxi started.

Well considering Maxi has hardly played recently as well I'm guessing it came down to who Kenny thought would provide us more and he picked Maxi .

So it's irrelevant that he may not be fully fit and of course your guessing about the scenario... Hmm ok.

If he isnt fully fit why has he been sat on the bench for the last month or so ?

I think you may have answered your own question there.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:43 pm

Well not really - if he is on the bench then he is fit to play so why if he is fit to play did Maxi get picked ahead of him ?
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Postby Kenny Kan » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:49 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Well not really - if he is on the bench then he is fit to play so why if he is fit to play did Maxi get picked ahead of him ?

No sub ever short of fitness has ever been on the bench?  ???
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:54 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Well not really - if he is on the bench then he is fit to play so why if he is fit to play did Maxi get picked ahead of him ?

No sub ever short of fitness has ever been on the bench?  ???

Maybe for their first game but surely after a month or so then they will be fit to play surely ?

He has been on the bench since the game against West Ham end of feb .
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:31 pm

I know what you're saying about the dross Benny BUT if you had to list who you'd get rid of first and listed them in that order I don't think Joe Cole would be anywhere near the top. We might just go for the massive overhaul, my only worry in that respect is giving us too much to do in the summer and disrupting the perceived unity we seem to have at the moment
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:37 pm

Greavesie wrote:I know what you're saying about the dross Benny BUT if you had to list who you'd get rid of first and listed them in that order I don't think Joe Cole would be anywhere near the top. We might just go for the massive overhaul, my only worry in that respect is giving us too much to do in the summer and disrupting the perceived unity we seem to have at the moment

Well the ones that are going to go mate are the ones that arent involved and that includes Cole im afraid - he isnt involved and just sits on the bench and IMO isnt involved much in the team unity - its all about the new Liverpool and the future .

And Cole would be high on my list of dross needing to go because of his wages and lack of action.

If he was on say 20 grand a week then thats a different story .
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