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[DAV]

He'll leave and i carnt fault him
If he wants to carry on being one of the best players in the world he needs to play against the best.
Real Madrid,Juventus the milans and the rest
Not mypia 47, kussi lartie,limmasol and the rest of the s##t we play in our poor excuse for a european trophy we are in. Which i carnt even spell.
Only 1 man blame when he goes
Houlier
WELL THANK U VERY MUCH HOULIER FOR YEARS OF MISSERABLE GAMES WITH cr#p RESULTS AND A BUNCH OF FOREIGNERS ARE ARNT WORTH SPIT.
CHEERS FOR DESTROYING THE TEAM I LOVE

[115-1073096938]

Its spelt Bye bye.

As for the foreigners... Your correct. Hyypia, Henchoz, Dudek, Hamann, Kewell, Baros, Pongolle, Le Tallec, Vignal, Smicer, Riise.... not worth a carrot.

I'll repeat myself... You always get one.

[Chinesegirl]

This season hasn't been over yet.
Don't say any words that owen will leave.Even himself.

Now,Owen's biggist work is how to do well in the match,not if he will leave for a bigger and nicer club.

[DAV]

stu your picking up on spelling u really should get a life. infact dont bother responding to any of my posts nothing u have 2 say is worth reading.

[DAV]

Le Tallec, Vignal, Smicer, Riise
are s##t anyway

[TJAMES]

i know im not a good speller but its bye bye owen not by by owen

[DAV]

and your point

[Cool Hand Luke]

I hope Owen gives it another year, but it is looking less likely every day.

But my gut feeling says that he will stay.

Even if he does leave he is not irreplaceable, I would be more worried if Gerrard was not commiting himself to Liverpool, there is no way we could do without him.

[JBG]

Owen is a very good player, bordering on a great player when he's fit and in form, but the fact that he has spent so much time either injured or recovering "match fitness" after injury (7 games now and he's still not 100% ? ) his loss wouldn't be as big as some people make out.

I'd love to see Owen stay at Liverpool and fire us to the Championship (if he stayed fit and got himself 30 goals a season in the League, which he is capable of, we'd be in with a shout) but if he did we would just have to get on with it.

[Cool Hand Luke]

I don't agree that Owen is bordering on Great, the word is used way to casualy.

Owen is extremely intelligiant and would be an asset to any team, but his type of player(Goal Scorer) are not uncommon.

[JBG]

I agree that the word "great" is used casually (together with "world class").

My point is that a fully fit Owen is a very good player who has the possibility of going on and doing great things for Liverpool and England as he has a brilliant temperment and when he's fit he is a guy who will deliver on the big stage (e.g. 2001 FA Cup final).

I personally rate RVN and Henry ahead of him and while Owen will never match them for ability (albeit their standard is extraordinary) he is a clever player with an excellent mentality who delivers when the chips are down.

[mvasil555]

One of the biggest flows of a person's character is ungratefulness. Michael Owen has done more than enough for this club already, and it's a shame to be judged by the fact that he doesn't score like a machine in every given period.
He is easily rated among the 10 best strikers in the world anyway.
He should be considered a corner stone to this team along with Gerrard and his coach should concentrate on how to adjust the offensive game around him rather than having him running up and down left and right in order to chase every "chimney" ball that comes from 50 yards away.
If he wants to play to a higher level should be acceptable as he is a higher level player than this Liverpool made by GH.
The guy is ambitious and that's a virtue. Everybody has to accept that, despite the fact that him living is a major blow for the striking power of this team.
I doubt if Liverpool has the budget to replace him as top class strikers are valued extremely high.

[jonnymac1979]

If he goes, we will all watch as the team he goes to start to reap the benefit of his undoubted ability as a striker. 

I am a supporter of Gerard Houllier (don't mention it.......), even though i'm not too blind to see that Liverpool have taken a couple of steps backwards over the last year or two.  I am also not blind to the fact that Houliier doesn't utilise Owen's ability.  Whenever Owen seems to get the ball, he has had to run down the flanks to make himself available. 

This means he could be somewhere near the halfway line.  As our main striker, he is not actually in the position to be putting the ball in the net.  What difference would it make if he went anyway?  He hasn't been the same free-running, raw player since he fell foul to that first hamstring injury years ago. 

But imagine the player he'd be, had he not had the injuries he's sustained over the years.

I don't want Owen to go.  The alternative is Heskey, Diouf, Cisse (probably), and Pongolle.  Besides the fact he's proven world class.  The tactics have got to change to accomodate him.  He's not a stupid lad.  When he has his contract talks with the club, i'm sure he'll spell out exactly what he expects from the other players, and from the coaching staff, but like I say, would it make that much difference if he went?

The sad thing is, we all know and realise that he would be free scoring at another club, because they would realise that the team should actually try to lay the ball on for him to SCORE, never mind running down flanks.

Only eventually when he goes, and when he's gone, will we realise what we had.  We're talking one of the greatest players ever to pull on the Red shirt.  We should be doing everything we can to keep him. 

Lets face it, he doesn't need the money, we need to tempt him with the football being played.

[115-1073096938]

Firstly to JBG.

World class is thrown around far to much and so is great. Owen is however world class and i wouldn't be told differently. There are probably only 10-20 world class players in the world... he's one of them. Gerrard is another.

Owen has more ability than van Nistlerooy imo and more alround ability than Henry.

For me Owen is probably the best in the business on top of his game.

Let me explain my comment about alround ability in comparrison to Henry. Owen is better in at heading a ball, he's imo a better and more clinical finisher, he's far better defensively and in terms of reading the the game. Owen's passing and choice of pass is superb.

The reason i feel Henry is as effective as he is, is his immense phyisical ability. I do rate him as world class and i can fully understand the reason people say he's the best in the world. Yes he's better than Owen but in a wierd way.

When a player has that level of skill, his pace and balence they are unstoppable. I feel his pace, his balence and acceleration are the best qualities in world football. To put it another way... Owen and Henry on champ manager. The ratings only go upto 20 so i'd expect Owen to be the better player. Henry's pace etc would be about 25 which is off the scale. No one else would have that high a rating for any attribute in the world if you get my point.

However.... Henry and RvN play more games and aren't as injury prone. It always seems to take Owen at least 5 games to get back to his best which is something he needs to get out of.

Secondly to Johnnymac...

Look at the end of the treble season start of the 2001/2002 season. Thats how to utilise Owen. He went on a run scoring something like 27 in 24 and it was through the old tactics. That was playing to his strengths which are one on one finishing, pace and movement. Crossing a ball and pinning teams in there own half makes Owen alot less effective.

He is better playing from deep and hitting teams on the break. Hence the reason we played like this and to a certain extent still do.

[Scottbot]

Are you saying that Owen would get less goals playing for Arsenal or the mancs than he does for Liverpool? I don't buy that - That it's better to play boring, sit-back counter attacking football all day every day coz thats how Mikey gets all his goals. I'm sick of watching us play this way, it's depressing