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[bigmick]

"Kuyt really is something and once again the manager has proved that when he goes in really big for a player (by our standards) he gets it right. Kuyt was big money for us, but he's definately worth every single penny. I'd actually go as far as saying that in todays market if the 9 million pounds figure is to be believed, we have absolutely stolen him."

   


please tell me your taking the ?

dirk shyte

In fairness to LFC he's actually quoting some other numpty who made that statemtn after he'd seen Kuyt in his first match. Those views don't represent his own I don't think.

That said, your comment is probs a bit OTT too.

[bigmick]

Yes yes i know it's early etc, but anybody prepared to make a call yet? I've made mine, I don't think he's the answer.

[mart]

I doubt a player that hasnt really played for 8 months can save a struggeling team alone.

[Cool Hand Luke]

He looks a good pass and move player but I have my doubts about how effective he can be for us taking into account our system and style of play. I think he is the sort of player who would fit in well in Rafa’s old Valencia side playing the little triangles. We move the ball too slowly and too many players have restriction on the runs they can make so I think he may struggle a little. From an attacking point of view Alonso was a stand and deliver type of player but Aquilani looks like he is all about short passes and movement so he will rely more on the players around him being able to play that sort of football. From what I have seen so far he looks inferior to Alonso, Gerrard, Lucus and Masch from a defensive point of view.

But I have to say I do have some sympathy for him as I once had to stop playing for almost 6 months due to an ankle ligament problem. It took a while to get the confidence back and really play my game. The game against Fiornitina was played at friendly pace in the first half so it was hard to judge but the chances are that he will start against Wigan so we will get a much better look.

[Scottbot]

The lad was invisible today when he came on but we'd completely lost our shape and any confidence by that point it seemed. I don't think Rafa has any choice but to start the lad against Wigan midweek and simply play him from here on in. This season (or what's left of it) may well live or die on this signing.

[Boocity]

The lad was invisible today when he came on but we'd completely lost our shape and any confidence by that point it seemed. I don't think Rafa has any choice but to start the lad against Wigan midweek and simply play him from here on in. This season (or what's left of it) may well live or die on this signing.

Totally agree with you, but can you see Rafa doing that. It wouldn't surprise me to see the same starting eleven against wigan as we had today.

[red37]

Anyone see near the end of Sky's transmission of the game, prior to the little montage they compiled (id like/hope to suggest was in honour of) Shanks. But it is Sky we are talking about....

Few of the lads were doing their warmdown. Agger, Stevie and Carra in a small group, one half of the pitch - a few scattered in the other. And on the halfway line (on his own) stood Aquilani. Looking distantly into the stands....the lad looked almost lost. 

That was almost as poignant a moment as the short tribute which followed.

[bunglemark2]

I reckon Aquilani was looking to see if Alonso was still in the stadium. Maybe he wanted to ask him a thing or two....

[red37]

I reckon Aquilani was looking to see if Alonso was still in the stadium. Maybe he wanted to ask him a thing or two....

I think he's already got the picture....

[bunglemark2]

I reckon Aquilani was looking to see if Alonso was still in the stadium. Maybe he wanted to ask him a thing or two....

I think he's already got the picture....

Huh ? Wot yoo talk about Willis ?

[fivecups]

Anyone see near the end of Sky's transmission of the game, prior to the little montage they compiled (id like/hope to suggest was in honour of) Shanks. But it is Sky we are talking about....

Few of the lads were doing their warmdown. Agger, Stevie and Carra in a small group, one half of the pitch - a few scattered in the other. And on the halfway line (on his own) stood Aquilani. Looking distantly into the stands....the lad looked almost lost. 

That was almost as poignant a moment as the short tribute which followed.

Does anyone know if we use relocation consultants?

[bigmick]

See if true (and I've no reason to believe Red is making it up) then this is precisely the sort of thing for me which is indicative of a rotten core to the situation within the club. Where's the togetherness when we're playing, where's the collective will when things start going wrong? Now time will tell if aquilani is a World beater or a waste of money (or the more likely somewhere in between) but players play better when they feel wanted, at home, settled in, amongst friends etc. People work better in all walks of life when they are in a happy and together environment, and I've always maintained that this is the job of the management at the club (not just the manager) to ensure such conditions prevail. It seems madness to me to spend 20 million quid on a player and then just leave him to sort himself out.

I read a thing once about Chelsea when they had the real tight knit squad thing going on. Apparantly whenever they signed a new player they had a bit of knees up and the new bloke had to get up on the table and do something in front of the rest of the players, sing a song, tell a joke, get his todger out or whatever else it was. it doesn't matter really, something to break up the ice a bit. There's no way a fella like Aquilani or anybody else for that matter should be warming down alone, and Carra and Gerrard shouldn't be in their own little group either. You win as a team and you lose as a team, simple words but easier to say than it is to instill. We aren't enough of a team at the moment, and it is one of the more significant of our many problems.

[fivecups]

See if true (and I've no reason to believe Red is making it up) then this is precisely the sort of thing for me which is indicative of a rotten core to the situation within the club. Where's the togetherness when we're playing, where's the collective will when things start going wrong? Now time will tell if aquilani is a World beater or a waste of money (or the more likely somewhere in between) but players play better when they feel wanted, at home, settled in, amongst friends etc. People work better in all walks of life when they are in a happy and together environment, and I've always maintained that this is the job of the management at the club (not just the manager) to ensure such conditions prevail. It seems madness to me to spend 20 million quid on a player and then just leave him to sort himself out.

I read a thing once about Chelsea when they had the real tight knit squad thing going on. Apparantly whenever they signed a new player they had a bit of knees up and the new bloke had to get up on the table and do something in front of the rest of the players, sing a song, tell a joke, get his todger out or whatever else it was. it doesn't matter really, something to break up the ice a bit. There's no way a fella like Aquilani or anybody else for that matter should be warming down alone, and Carra and Gerrard shouldn't be in their own little group either. You win as a team and you lose as a team, simple words but easier to say than it is to instill. We aren't enough of a team at the moment, and it is one of the more significant of our many problems.

Totally agree with this, it's only common sense. The only time we really came together as a team recently was in the second half of last season when coincidentally we were playing our best football in 20 years.

[tubby]

I think it would be a bit silly for anyone to assume that he hasn't mixed in with the rest of the team based on 1 shot of him warming down without the other players. I'm sure Stevie and the other lads have made him feel as welcome as they do any player that joins them. What's next, a shot of Torres walking by himself down the tunnel which is interpreted as he want's to leave?

[red37]

The point i was making wasn't to do with 'settling' into the team - or if you like, bonding/gelling with his team mates at all.

It was more of an observation as to how he 'appeared' to be off in a world of his own, taking stock of his situation - and what the immediate impact is going to be regards his personal fortunes tied to a career with Liverpool FC means. Nowt to do with whether or not the rest of the lads are getting on with him.

I thought it was a snapshot of a lad who looked as though he needed a bit of an assurance.

Course, he might just have been admiring the Centenary...or wondering what to have for his tea.