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[dawson99]

Sometimes the conditions dictate a rough season.

Don't worry Rafa, your always welcome back here.

by some of the fans 

[maguskwt]

Shankly and Rafa in the same paragraph never seems quite right to me for some reason. Rafa and Houllier, yes I can go with that. But not our great managers

as much as you hate Rafa Mick, he's much much better than Roy...

[bigmick]

Shankly and Rafa in the same paragraph never seems quite right to me for some reason. Rafa and Houllier, yes I can go with that. But not our great managers

as much as you hate Rafa Mick, he's much much better than Roy...

I don't hate anybody Magus, definately not some football manager who seems like a nice enough fella and who did a decent job of managing Liverpool Football Club. Why would I hate him FFS? I don't love him or worship him like some of you guys , but hate him? nah.

As for whether or not he's "better" than Roy, it's not really important. What IS important is who stood the best chance of taking the club forward this season, uniting the players etc etc. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that for that task, we have the better manager of the two.

[tubby]

Trying to replace Rafa with Roy is like putting a silk hat on a pig. No offence but that is what it is. I fail to understand after have spent several weeks in the relegation zone that we are still with the 'better' manager of the 2. Most other fans I have spoken to would have Rafa back in a heartbeat.

You never know what the future may hold.

[dawson99]

Trying to replace Rafa with Roy is like putting a silk hat on a pig. No offence but that is what it is. I fail to understand after have spent several weeks in the relegation zone that we are still with the 'better' manager of the 2. Most other fans I have spoken to would have Rafa back in a heartbeat.

You never know what the future may hold.

most fans ive spoken have said getting rid of Rafa was the right thing.. different people have different views, but last season our season sucked, our football sucked, no one looked up for it, so weve moved on.

you never know what the future may hold? Well then maybe stop callingour current manager a pig and give him a chnce, 4 wins on the trot aint that bad

And let Rafa win Serie A and the CL

[maguskwt]

I don't hate anybody Magus, definately not some football manager who seems like a nice enough fella and who did a decent job of managing Liverpool Football Club. Why would I hate him FFS? I don't love him or worship him like some of you guys , but hate him? nah.

As for whether or not he's "better" than Roy, it's not really important. What IS important is who stood the best chance of taking the club forward this season, uniting the players etc etc. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that for that task, we have the better manager of the two.

I disagree, under Rafa, we would have never been in the relegation zone. Ergo, taking into account teams such as Man City and Spurs have struggled, we would easily be in the top 4 and slugging it out near Arsenal by now...

[SouthCoastShankly]

I don't hate anybody Magus, definately not some football manager who seems like a nice enough fella and who did a decent job of managing Liverpool Football Club. Why would I hate him FFS? I don't love him or worship him like some of you guys , but hate him? nah.

As for whether or not he's "better" than Roy, it's not really important. What IS important is who stood the best chance of taking the club forward this season, uniting the players etc etc. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that for that task, we have the better manager of the two.

I disagree, under Rafa, we would have never been in the relegation zone. Ergo, taking into account teams such as Man City and Spurs have struggled, we would easily be in the top 4 and slugging it out near Arsenal by now...

Not sure about that 

What would prompt such a vast increase in performance from last season under Rafa. The players and systems failed last season, you reckon Rafa would of over hauled it?

I don't.

Unfortunately for Hodgson he has inherited a squad designed to play a system that he doesn't coach. No excuses mind for the dreadful performances. But now at least his style of play is working better and generating results.

I've said it many times before that I think we should not of employed Hodgson, it doesn't seem right. But I would of hated it equally if we had kept Rafa.

[tubby]

I don't hate anybody Magus, definately not some football manager who seems like a nice enough fella and who did a decent job of managing Liverpool Football Club. Why would I hate him FFS? I don't love him or worship him like some of you guys , but hate him? nah.

As for whether or not he's "better" than Roy, it's not really important. What IS important is who stood the best chance of taking the club forward this season, uniting the players etc etc. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that for that task, we have the better manager of the two.

I disagree, under Rafa, we would have never been in the relegation zone. Ergo, taking into account teams such as Man City and Spurs have struggled, we would easily be in the top 4 and slugging it out near Arsenal by now...

Not sure about that 

What would prompt such a vast increase in performance from last season under Rafa. The players and systems failed last season, you reckon Rafa would of over hauled it?

I don't.

Unfortunately for Hodgson he has inherited a squad designed to play a system that he doesn't coach. No excuses mind for the dreadful performances. But now at least his style of play is working better and generating results.

I've said it many times before that I think we should not of employed Hodgson, it doesn't seem right. But I would of hated it equally if we had kept Rafa.

You don't think he could have turned it around based on what? He could of pulled off a few decent transfers this summer. No point speculating hypothetically what might have happend. The only reason I think he would is because he had finished there several times with us before.

[rocky29]

roy is better rafa was just to depressing and so negative.

[SouthCoastShankly]

I don't hate anybody Magus, definately not some football manager who seems like a nice enough fella and who did a decent job of managing Liverpool Football Club. Why would I hate him FFS? I don't love him or worship him like some of you guys , but hate him? nah.

As for whether or not he's "better" than Roy, it's not really important. What IS important is who stood the best chance of taking the club forward this season, uniting the players etc etc. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that for that task, we have the better manager of the two.

I disagree, under Rafa, we would have never been in the relegation zone. Ergo, taking into account teams such as Man City and Spurs have struggled, we would easily be in the top 4 and slugging it out near Arsenal by now...

Not sure about that 

What would prompt such a vast increase in performance from last season under Rafa. The players and systems failed last season, you reckon Rafa would of over hauled it?

I don't.

Unfortunately for Hodgson he has inherited a squad designed to play a system that he doesn't coach. No excuses mind for the dreadful performances. But now at least his style of play is working better and generating results.

I've said it many times before that I think we should not of employed Hodgson, it doesn't seem right. But I would of hated it equally if we had kept Rafa.

You don't think he could have turned it around based on what? He could of pulled off a few decent transfers this summer. No point speculating hypothetically what might have happend. The only reason I think he would is because he had finished there several times with us before.

You're right he may of but I'm not sure our style of play would of changed much.

could of pulled off a few decent transfers this summer

You sure?

Rafa hadn't pulled of a good transfer since Fernando Torres.

[zarababe]

Shankly and Rafa in the same paragraph never seems quite right to me for some reason. Rafa and Houllier, yes I can go with that. But not our great managers

as much as you hate Rafa Mick, he's much much better than Roy...

Interesting that though - Rafa elevated the 'lot' of this club similalry at European level - we became a force again, top of the European Co-efficient

Despite winning the league, Chelsea have yearned for this honour the most to cap their quest for 'globalisation'

you don't become 'global' force by winning just doemstic honours.. you dominate the world through your exploites in the greatest club competition - the European CUP, more importamjt perhaops than the World Cup becasue the best play in it..

...and guess what for elevating us to that level alone, Rafa earnt his legend status.. in the same breath as shankly.. perhaps for reviving our fortunes, but why compare?

both  managed liverpool and both are legends, loved the people and made the peopel happy and are still loved !

[Greavesie]

roy is better rafa was just to depressing and so negative.

is this a fecking wind up? Poulsen and Lucas! Under Rafa we were consistently one of the highest scorers in the league! He had problems putting sh!te teams to the sword, particularly at home. In fact, that's the only thing that cost us the league in 09

Rafa's been at Valencia, Liverpool and Inter and had offers from Real Madrid. How's Roy's CV read?

I know I've just said the debate is a bit stale in a thread in the main forum but christ this is a crazy statement to make

[rocky29]

roy is better rafa was just to depressing and so negative.

is this a fecking wind up? Poulsen and Lucas! Under Rafa we were consistently one of the highest scorers in the league! He had problems putting sh!te teams to the sword, particularly at home. In fact, that's the only thing that cost us the league in 09

Rafa's been at Valencia, Liverpool and Inter and had offers from Real Madrid. How's Roy's CV read?

I know I've just said the debate is a bit stale in a thread in the main forum but christ this is a crazy statement to make

yep i predict juventus then A.C Milan then lazio will be the top 3 in SERIA A. Inter will come 4th and rafa will be sacked.

[bigmick]

I don't hate anybody Magus, definately not some football manager who seems like a nice enough fella and who did a decent job of managing Liverpool Football Club. Why would I hate him FFS? I don't love him or worship him like some of you guys , but hate him? nah.

As for whether or not he's "better" than Roy, it's not really important. What IS important is who stood the best chance of taking the club forward this season, uniting the players etc etc. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that for that task, we have the better manager of the two.

I disagree, under Rafa, we would have never been in the relegation zone. Ergo, taking into account teams such as Man City and Spurs have struggled, we would easily be in the top 4 and slugging it out near Arsenal by now...

Note to Benny. Remember when I said if Roy got us fourth posters would say "but Rafa would have got us third"?   

[tubby]

roy is better rafa was just to depressing and so negative.

is this a fecking wind up? Poulsen and Lucas! Under Rafa we were consistently one of the highest scorers in the league! He had problems putting sh!te teams to the sword, particularly at home. In fact, that's the only thing that cost us the league in 09

Rafa's been at Valencia, Liverpool and Inter and had offers from Real Madrid. How's Roy's CV read?

I know I've just said the debate is a bit stale in a thread in the main forum but christ this is a crazy statement to make

Viking, Malmo and a host of other small clubs. You couldn't make it up mate.