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[Ola Mr Benitez]

Sky have apparently said they have reviewed the game and could find no evidence of Suarez making racist remarks to Evra.

Liverpool have said that if the claims are found to be unwarrented they want Evra banned!!!

[Kenny Kan]

[parchpea]

Looks like we havent heard the end of this seeing as Evra has reportedly told Ferguson he wishes to take the matter further. Shame because both managers seemed to try and calm the waters before the match and now this incident has kicked off. Can see players and officials being hauled in for interviews now and the media all over it like a rash.

[neil]

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[alwayslfc]

Looks like we havent heard the end of this seeing as Evra has reportedly told Ferguson he wishes to take the matter further. Shame because both managers seemed to try and calm the waters before the match and now this incident has kicked off. Can see players and officials being hauled in for interviews now and the media all over it like a rash.

[quote]

Ok, allow me to say something unorthodox and out of the ordinary.

In a way, I don't mind seeing our star man Suarez getting into some animosity with the top 3 PL clubs on and off the field. Why?

Because then neither Suarez nor those 3 clubs will want to sign him if in the event Suarez is not happy at Liverpool for not qualifying for CL. I am sure Kopites everywhere would be sick to see Man U, City or Chel buying him. If he opts for the big 2 in Spain, I wouldn't be so sickening.

[tonyeh]

What an unbelievable waste of time.

Grow some balls Evra.

[tubby]

So does Suarez speak some French, or Evra speak Spanish? Just trying to picture how exactly he would have said something. I think Evra was just wound up he didn't get Downing booked earlier.

[andy_g]

i think there's a high probability that the (alleged) insults were spoken in english, bav

[Kenny Kan]

i think there's a high probability that the (alleged) insults were spoken in english, bav

He can't speak English that well andy, a chelsea steward called him f-ing ignorant, Evra thought he called him a f-ing immigrant.

[Thommo's perm]

i think there's a high probability that the (alleged) insults were spoken in english, bav

He can't speak English that well andy, a chelsea steward called him f-ing ignorant, Evra thought he called him a f-ing immigrant.

Maybe Suarez said "youre just like Tigger"?
Bouncy bouncy

[red till i die!!]

i think there's a high probability that the (alleged) insults were spoken in english, bav

He can't speak English that well andy, a chelsea steward called him f-ing ignorant, Evra thought he called him a f-ing immigrant.

Maybe Suarez said "youre just like Tigger"?
Bouncy bouncy

pmsl

[red till i die!!]

what a muppet evra is.
if there turns out to be no clear evidence that "racial abuse did occur" then the fa have to fire the book at evra.imo evra wasnt in the game the other day,had a few niggly spats and didnt get the decisions and is now looking to shift the blame for his bad performance to this.
has to be clear favourite for the jim henson award now!!

[Kenny Kan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/16/liverpool-patrice-evra-luis-suarez?newsfeed=true

Liverpool want Patrice Evra ban if Luis Suárez race claim is groundless

• 'Upset' Liverpool striker will fight any FA disciplinary case
• Manchester United may need statements from other players

Liverpool have given their firm backing to Luis Suárez over his denial that he racially abused Patrice Evra at Anfield on Saturday – and want the Manchester United defender to receive a ban from the Football Association should his accusations prove groundless.

The Uruguay international has vehemently denied Evra's allegations that he racially abused him during Liverpool's 1-1 draw with United and will fight to clear his name if the FA decides to open a disciplinary case.

Suárez has also received a show of support from his employers. A Liverpool spokesman said: "Luis is adamant that he has not used language of that nature and the club is totally supportive of the player."

The inquiry will begin with the FA asking to speak to Evra on Monday to ascertain whether he intends to make an official complaint. Evra's accusation is that he was called "a nigger" – the Senegal-born Frenchman said he heard it "at least 10 times" – but Suárez insists it is not true.

"I'm upset by the accusations of racism," he said. "I can only say that I have always respected, and respect, everybody. We are all the same." Liverpool have accepted Suárez's version of events and, given the potential repercussions for their striker if Evra's allegations are proven, believe the France international should have a disciplinary case to answer if allegations of this magnitude are dropped.

Evra, accompanied by Sir Alex Ferguson, asked to see the referee Andre Marriner, after the match to report the alleged incidents and later expressed his anger in an interview with Canal Plus.

"In 2011, there are things you can't say any more," he said. "The referee knows and there will be an investigation. But I don't want to repeat what he said." The interviewer asked if Suárez had used racist words and he replied: "Yes, he did. We can see thanks to the television what he said. He said it at least 10 times. We can read it on his lips."

Evra's complaints have been included in Marriner's match report but the referee has also informed the FA and the Premier League that the first he knew of it was after the match. The two players could be seen exchanging words at various points of the second half but it may count against Evra that he did not raise the alleged offence with Marriner during the game.

On that basis, Evra will almost certainly need back-up statements from his United team-mates if the FA is to decide there is evidence to make a case against Suárez. United would not say if there were witnesses to Evra's allegations but, without them, the authorities may decide it is a case of one man's word against another.

In 2008 Evra was at the centre of accusations that he was racially abused by a groundsman at Chelsea while warming down. But an FA hearing into the allegation – which was made by a Manchester United employee – found that it was not proven. Evra was subsequently banned for four games and fined £15,000 for his part in the post-match altercation with the groundsman. The controversy comes at a particularly bad time given that Saturday's match launched Kick It Out's three-week "One Game, One Community" action programme, with players from both sides wearing anti-racism T-shirts, and every manager through the leagues wearing one of the organisation's badges.

A message was read out before the game saying that Liverpool did not tolerate racism of any form, and there was a message in the club programme, including a telephone number for supporters to report anyone guilty of offences.

Lord Herman Ouesley, the chairman of Kick It Out, said any footballer guilty of racism should face "severe action" both from the FA and the player's club, but "you would have to be able to prove it beyond reasonable doubt".

He added: "There were incidents in the second half and Evra seemed to get very agitated so something was obviously bugging him because he was quite incensed. But if this happened he should have brought it to the attention of the referee at the time."

[Thommo's perm]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/16/liverpool-patrice-evra-luis-suarez?newsfeed=true

Liverpool want Patrice Evra ban if Luis Suárez race claim is groundless

• 'Upset' Liverpool striker will fight any FA disciplinary case
• Manchester United may need statements from other players

Liverpool have given their firm backing to Luis Suárez over his denial that he racially abused Patrice Evra at Anfield on Saturday – and want the Manchester United defender to receive a ban from the Football Association should his accusations prove groundless.

The Uruguay international has vehemently denied Evra's allegations that he racially abused him during Liverpool's 1-1 draw with United and will fight to clear his name if the FA decides to open a disciplinary case.

Suárez has also received a show of support from his employers. A Liverpool spokesman said: "Luis is adamant that he has not used language of that nature and the club is totally supportive of the player."

The inquiry will begin with the FA asking to speak to Evra on Monday to ascertain whether he intends to make an official complaint. Evra's accusation is that he was called "a nigger" – the Senegal-born Frenchman said he heard it "at least 10 times" – but Suárez insists it is not true.

"I'm upset by the accusations of racism," he said. "I can only say that I have always respected, and respect, everybody. We are all the same." Liverpool have accepted Suárez's version of events and, given the potential repercussions for their striker if Evra's allegations are proven, believe the France international should have a disciplinary case to answer if allegations of this magnitude are dropped.

Evra, accompanied by Sir Alex Ferguson, asked to see the referee Andre Marriner, after the match to report the alleged incidents and later expressed his anger in an interview with Canal Plus.

"In 2011, there are things you can't say any more," he said. "The referee knows and there will be an investigation. But I don't want to repeat what he said." The interviewer asked if Suárez had used racist words and he replied: "Yes, he did. We can see thanks to the television what he said. He said it at least 10 times. We can read it on his lips."

Evra's complaints have been included in Marriner's match report but the referee has also informed the FA and the Premier League that the first he knew of it was after the match. The two players could be seen exchanging words at various points of the second half but it may count against Evra that he did not raise the alleged offence with Marriner during the game.

On that basis, Evra will almost certainly need back-up statements from his United team-mates if the FA is to decide there is evidence to make a case against Suárez. United would not say if there were witnesses to Evra's allegations but, without them, the authorities may decide it is a case of one man's word against another.

In 2008 Evra was at the centre of accusations that he was racially abused by a groundsman at Chelsea while warming down. But an FA hearing into the allegation – which was made by a Manchester United employee – found that it was not proven. Evra was subsequently banned for four games and fined £15,000 for his part in the post-match altercation with the groundsman. The controversy comes at a particularly bad time given that Saturday's match launched Kick It Out's three-week "One Game, One Community" action programme, with players from both sides wearing anti-racism T-shirts, and every manager through the leagues wearing one of the organisation's badges.

A message was read out before the game saying that Liverpool did not tolerate racism of any form, and there was a message in the club programme, including a telephone number for supporters to report anyone guilty of offences.

Lord Herman Ouesley, the chairman of Kick It Out, said any footballer guilty of racism should face "severe action" both from the FA and the player's club, but "you would have to be able to prove it beyond reasonable doubt".

He added: "There were incidents in the second half and Evra seemed to get very agitated so something was obviously bugging him because he was quite incensed. But if this happened he should have brought it to the attention of the referee at the time."

Exactly
Why wait until the end? Why wait until after youd been made a tw@t of for 90 minutes? 10 times? Why not bring it to the refs attention after one time?
If Evra cant prove this he should be banned for life or at least until the end of the season.

[redtrader74]

The worst thing about the cnts claim is that he publicised it, mud sticks, especially in the thick world of football punditry and journalism, from now onwards every time there is an incident involving Luis the same tired lazy comment of 'he's got form......' or 'he has a nasty side to his game, remember the Evra claim' will be trotted out. any claims of racial abuse should be kept private until proven. Funny how no one else has backed up his complaint, and we still haven't heard what HE was saying to Luis, or is he a mute.