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by **tubby** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:01 am

Will be a shame if we let him go again like this. I know it was his fault for leaving in the first place but we have a real chance of winning the league this season. All we are lacking is some goals up front and he can give that to us.

by **metalhead** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:03 am

bavlondon wrote:This place is full of fecking hypocrites. And I am one of them.

glad you admit :laugh:

by **taff** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:05 am

Fo Dne wrote:
GYBS wrote:Scoring goals and creating chances , keeping hold of the ball , retaining possesion, adaptability,

I said Dirk Kuyt, not Steven Gerrard.

Stu the dead :laugh:

by **dame** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:28 am

1. Owen stays fit for a few games and scores a few good goals;
2. His contract is about to end and in negotiaiton of new one.

"1" and "2" often go hand in hand....isn't it obvious?

by **maguskwt** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:55 am

dame wrote:1. Owen stays fit for a few games and scores a few good goals;
2. His contract is about to end and in negotiaiton of new one.

"1" and "2" often go hand in hand....isn't it obvious?

meaning?

by **roberto green** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:02 am

taff wrote:
Fo Dne wrote:
GYBS wrote:Scoring goals and creating chances , keeping hold of the ball , retaining possesion, adaptability,

I said Dirk Kuyt, not Steven Gerrard.

Stu the dead

This Is the Michael Owen Topic Isn't it? :laugh:

by **Toffeehater** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:53 pm

dame wrote:1. Owen stays fit for a few games and scores a few good goals;
2. His contract is about to end and in negotiaiton of new one.

"1" and "2" often go hand in hand....isn't it obvious?

He's trying to say that owen is only staying fit as his contract is running out and he wants a new one thus by impressing and scoring goals , newcastle or other clubs will offer him a wage packet similar to the one he is getting now .

by **radun5** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:40 pm

We all know what Dame's opinion on Kewell was, then

by **maguskwt** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:02 pm

Toffeehater wrote:
dame wrote:1. Owen stays fit for a few games and scores a few good goals;
2. His contract is about to end and in negotiaiton of new one.

"1" and "2" often go hand in hand....isn't it obvious?

He's trying to say that owen is only staying fit as his contract is running out and he wants a new one thus by impressing and scoring goals , newcastle or other clubs will offer him a wage packet similar to the one he is getting now .

... yeah a footballer says to himself " hey... why don't I stay injured all the time and only become fit suddenly near to when my contract runs out and score a few goals"... :laugh:

by **we all dream...** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:11 pm

maguskwt wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:
dame wrote:1. Owen stays fit for a few games and scores a few good goals;
2. His contract is about to end and in negotiaiton of new one.

"1" and "2" often go hand in hand....isn't it obvious?

He's trying to say that owen is only staying fit as his contract is running out and he wants a new one thus by impressing and scoring goals , newcastle or other clubs will offer him a wage packet similar to the one he is getting now .

... yeah a footballer says to himself " hey... why don't I stay injured all the time and only become fit suddenly near to when my contract runs out and score a few goals"...

Im glad you thought that that is what he was saying as weel. I couldnt work it out it was that ridiculous! Thought i'd missed the point or miss read it or something :no

by **DanAn** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:53 pm

we all dream... wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:
dame wrote:1. Owen stays fit for a few games and scores a few good goals;
2. His contract is about to end and in negotiaiton of new one.

"1" and "2" often go hand in hand....isn't it obvious?

He's trying to say that owen is only staying fit as his contract is running out and he wants a new one thus by impressing and scoring goals , newcastle or other clubs will offer him a wage packet similar to the one he is getting now .

... yeah a footballer says to himself " hey... why don't I stay injured all the time and only become fit suddenly near to when my contract runs out and score a few goals"...

Im glad you thought that that is what he was saying as weel. I couldnt work it out it was that ridiculous! Thought i'd missed the point or miss read it or something

Yeah that's rediculous but perhaps a footballer says to himself. My contract is comming up I better not cut corners on my recovery work. I can't afford to get injured.

by **Leonmc0708** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:23 pm

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Owen 7

Kuyt 7

Goals this season. One has been played as a striker EVERY minute he has been on the pitch. The other plays inside right.

by **bigmick** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:40 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Owen 7

Kuyt 7

Goals this season. One has been played as a striker EVERY minute he has been on the pitch. The other plays inside right.

They league goals Leon?

You're right though pure stats don't tell the tale on any player I don't think. On the question of Kuyt, it's amazing to me that each time he plays wide on the right he at least looks like he could potentially score a goal (and often did at the start of the season), whereas up top he looks like he could play till the year 2010 and not get his name on the scoresheet. It simply must be a mental thing, that when he plays in midfield he doesn;t feel the pressure to score and so therefore he does it more naturally.

Also the stats you've quoted obviously don't include inutes on the pitch. As we are all aware (painfully so most recently) Kuyt has been on the pitch for an awful lot of Liverpool's competitive minutes this season, whereas Owen has no doubt been injured three or four times by now (I don't know this I'm just guessing).

If you calculated the goals per minute ratio I'm sure it would reveal two truths. Firstly, Owen doesn't play many minutes, and secondly when he does he scores quite a lot of goals.

Given that when Torres is fit we might well need somebody who doesn't play lots of minutes but when he does scores goals, it would appear to a runner. The obvious barriers to it are a) whether we can forgive and forget, b) whether we can afford his fee and wages and c) whether he'll stand for not very minutes.

by **Fo Dne** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:16 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Owen 7

Kuyt 7

Goals this season. One has been played as a striker EVERY minute he has been on the pitch. The other plays inside right.

Obviously that makes Kuyt better than Owen then.

That settles it.

Cisse was obviously better than Kuyt then aswell.

Also, I reckon you should check your facts. :nod

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:35 pm

Kuyt 5 goals in 1495 mins total shots 43

Owen 7 goals in 889 mins total shots 17

You mean something like that Mick

And here's something you could win money with, last season Owen played for MORE minutes in the league than Kuyt!

Owen 2177 11 goals
Kuyt 2163 3 goals

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