ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:47 am wrote:Rodgers has spent all season complaining that his squad is threadbare and he's working with '15 fit players' and yet last night within moments of the deal falling through there's a Pravda-esque piece from him up on the official site saying everything's fine and dandy and extra players are for wimps.
He left Melwood in the early evening so that must have been written before he left as a contingency plan, they must think our fan base is daft or something.
It's bad enough not signing any players when CL qualification and Luis future is hanging by a thread (and with United now having Rooney and Van Persie back and Mata in their team plus we've yet to go to Old Trafford, it is hanging by a thread) but to have your intelligence insulted when you are already feeling low is just adding insult to injury.
If Brendan opens his mouth about squad depth from now to the end of the season he has got some gall that fella after that straight-out-of-business-college PR shyte he wrote last night, or should I say wrote yesterday afternoon
The really disappointing thing is that FSG had been doing a lot of things right recently (like when John Henry flew 2,000 miles to speak at the hillsborough memorial and their hard line stance with Luis in the summer) but this is taking us back to the days when we seemed to stumble from one crisis to another.
lakes10 » Feb 1st, '14, 12:18 wrote:From what I understand from reading post on twitter Ayres was told the deal was done, they sat and waited for the paperwork to come via fax, the player was making his was to us. but no fax come , the club was told it would be with them in mins but again nothing. then they were told the deal is off as the president of the club changed his mind.
not sure who is to blame but I am shocked it happened, will say that there was chat that the deal was done after 1am this morning and we might still get him but not seen anything on that since 3am.
woof woof ! » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:06 am wrote::laugh:
Welcome back Cig
Where've you been ? we missed yer .
Ciggy » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:01 pm wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:47 am wrote:Rodgers has spent all season complaining that his squad is threadbare and he's working with '15 fit players' and yet last night within moments of the deal falling through there's a Pravda-esque piece from him up on the official site saying everything's fine and dandy and extra players are for wimps.
He left Melwood in the early evening so that must have been written before he left as a contingency plan, they must think our fan base is daft or something.
It's bad enough not signing any players when CL qualification and Luis future is hanging by a thread (and with United now having Rooney and Van Persie back and Mata in their team plus we've yet to go to Old Trafford, it is hanging by a thread) but to have your intelligence insulted when you are already feeling low is just adding insult to injury.
If Brendan opens his mouth about squad depth from now to the end of the season he has got some gall that fella after that straight-out-of-business-college PR shyte he wrote last night, or should I say wrote yesterday afternoon
The really disappointing thing is that FSG had been doing a lot of things right recently (like when John Henry flew 2,000 miles to speak at the hillsborough memorial and their hard line stance with Luis in the summer) but this is taking us back to the days when we seemed to stumble from one crisis to another.
Good post mate totally agree and they have the audacity to put on the offal this morning about a tour around America starting in July hardfaced feckers !!!
lakes10 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:18 am wrote:From what I understand from reading post on twitter Ayres was told the deal was done, they sat and waited for the paperwork to come via fax, the player was making his was to us. but no fax come , the club was told it would be with them in mins but again nothing. then they were told the deal is off as the president of the club changed his mind.
not sure who is to blame but I am shocked it happened, will say that there was chat that the deal was done after 1am this morning and we might still get him but not seen anything on that since 3am.
devaney » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:33 pm wrote:Ciggy » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:01 pm wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:47 am wrote:Rodgers has spent all season complaining that his squad is threadbare and he's working with '15 fit players' and yet last night within moments of the deal falling through there's a Pravda-esque piece from him up on the official site saying everything's fine and dandy and extra players are for wimps.
He left Melwood in the early evening so that must have been written before he left as a contingency plan, they must think our fan base is daft or something.
It's bad enough not signing any players when CL qualification and Luis future is hanging by a thread (and with United now having Rooney and Van Persie back and Mata in their team plus we've yet to go to Old Trafford, it is hanging by a thread) but to have your intelligence insulted when you are already feeling low is just adding insult to injury.
If Brendan opens his mouth about squad depth from now to the end of the season he has got some gall that fella after that straight-out-of-business-college PR shyte he wrote last night, or should I say wrote yesterday afternoon
The really disappointing thing is that FSG had been doing a lot of things right recently (like when John Henry flew 2,000 miles to speak at the hillsborough memorial and their hard line stance with Luis in the summer) but this is taking us back to the days when we seemed to stumble from one crisis to another.
Good post mate totally agree and they have the audacity to put on the offal this morning about a tour around America starting in July hardfaced feckers !!!
It is only recently that the size of the squad has gone down to 15 as a result of injury so I think your suggestion that Rodger's has spent all season complaining that the squad is threadbare is simply wrong. Losing Enrique, Agger, Johnson, Lucas, Sakho and Coates less so are the real reasons the squad is threadbare. Sh.it happens. It's unfortunate. We've been very unlucky with injuries. We've also been very unlucky with decisions against both City and Everton back in November that probably cost us four points.
This transfer window was an opportunity to bring in players and for reasons most of us haven't got a clue about it didn't happen. Life goes on and we have to work harder with what we have got. The reaction towards our owners and Ian Ayres by our own supporters has been pathetic and I'm not just having a go at the culprits on this forum who I would have expected better from.
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:50 pm wrote:lakes10 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:18 am wrote:From what I understand from reading post on twitter Ayres was told the deal was done, they sat and waited for the paperwork to come via fax, the player was making his was to us. but no fax come , the club was told it would be with them in mins but again nothing. then they were told the deal is off as the president of the club changed his mind.
not sure who is to blame but I am shocked it happened, will say that there was chat that the deal was done after 1am this morning and we might still get him but not seen anything on that since 3am.
In today's echo it says at some point during negotiations we 'increased' our offer to trigger the buy out clause in konoplyanka's contract, hmm.....that sounds ominous to me.
I wonder if we tried our famous lowballing tactics on this billionaire owner of Dnipro, maybe he became so exasperated with our shenanigans early on in the negotiating process that he couldn't bring himself to sign off on the deal right at the death?
All speculation of course but I wonder what would have happened if we would have just met the buy out clause from the start?
According to Salah's agent we spent two months haggling with Basel, I think we need to tone down our aggressive negotiating, driving a hard bargain is all fine and dandy but it's not much good if every deal you enter into collapses because of it.
Good to see you back ciggy!
devaney » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:15 pm wrote:Yakka if you had originally said reminded instead of complaining I would have accepted that. I certainly don't think he is trying to insult anybody's intelligence. He is getting on with a difficult job with the players at his disposal. Let's face it we have loaned out several players that could be of use to us at the moment. No one could have predicted all of the injuries we have suffered. I am not sure what you expected Rodger's to say? Would you have been happy if he had criticised the board and Ian Ayres for not signing anybody and suggested that Liverpool were a laughing stock?
lakes10 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:18 am wrote:From what I understand from reading post on twitter Ayres was told the deal was done, they sat and waited for the paperwork to come via fax, the player was making his was to us. but no fax come , the club was told it would be with them in mins but again nothing. then they were told the deal is off as the president of the club changed his mind.
not sure who is to blame but I am shocked it happened, will say that there was chat that the deal was done after 1am this morning and we might still get him but not seen anything on that since 3am.
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