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[LFC1990]

Its Stu he is looking for a reacton.

Danny, Although a touch greedy has been a fantastic signing for us.

[SouthCoastShankly]

As I said earlier, ideal impact sub. Not good enough to be a regular starter in a league winning side.

Really? are you serious or just looking to stir up a reaction?

what a beaut

I reckon he is either stuck with the mind of an immature teenager who has a pride issue - in denial about being wrong

or

he is way ahead of his time and perfecting the stubborn 'stuck in my ways and thoughts' Grandad routine.

[devaney]

Stu, can I be blunt? You are talking absolute rubbish. The frightening thing is that I seriously think that you believe you are right and that you are simply not a WUM.

If Danny had missed his phenomenal sand wedge chip over Howard then no doubt you would have castigated him for being selfish and suggested he should have passed the ball to a player in a better position. The lad can't win with you regardless of just how many brilliant goals he scores. You defend Gerrard to the hilt when he has a bad day and yet you do nothing but come out with the same old pathetic drivel about Danny. Of course he makes mistakes so does everybody else. And if you think that Chelsea don't rue the day that they bought Torres for £50m and sold Danny to us for £12m then you are watching a very different game to the rest of us.

Danny is third in Premiership goal scoring table just behind Aguero. Time to get off the high horse mate. Mind you you'll need a fkg long ladder 

IMPACT SUB.........

[leeroy74]

ha ha Devaney - fecking long ladder !

Sturridge is selfish striker, he went for goal when a pass was on.
I seem to recall Ian Rush been selfish then, oh and Fowler he was selfish, oh and Owen and come to think of it so was Keegan & Dalglish. Yeah, to be a good top notch striker who gets regular goals you need to be selfish. Danny fits right in there then! And long may it continue.

[Thommo's perm]

13 goals in 15 games (13 starts) is good enough for me. The lad is class and needs to be congratulated rather than criticised.
Carry on Danny

[Stu the Red]

Stu, can I be blunt? You are talking absolute rubbish. The frightening thing is that I seriously think that you believe you are right and that you are simply not a WUM.

If Danny had missed his phenomenal sand wedge chip over Howard then no doubt you would have castigated him for being selfish and suggested he should have passed the ball to a player in a better position. The lad can't win with you regardless of just how many brilliant goals he scores. You defend Gerrard to the hilt when he has a bad day and yet you do nothing but come out with the same old pathetic drivel about Danny. Of course he makes mistakes so does everybody else. And if you think that Chelsea don't rue the day that they bought Torres for £50m and sold Danny to us for £12m then you are watching a very different game to the rest of us.

Danny is third in Premiership goal scoring table just behind Aguero. Time to get off the high horse mate. Mind you you'll need a fkg long ladder 

IMPACT SUB.........

No devaney that is simply not true. I have no problem with people finishing a chance or attempted a shot if its the last action of a passage of play. I do however have major issues when people consistently do the wrong thing and make the wrong decision and refuse to pass because they want the glory and play for themselves. When you want to score and big the big man so desperately that it has a negative impact on the side then I'm sorry but questions need to be asked. Obviously there is something in this as Suarez, Coutinho and Henderson were absolutely fuming with his decsions and then the manager hooked him straight away.

You also make out like I hate Sturridge? Like I think he's poor? I've never once said that and I've never claimed he's anything other than a good player. I've never once said he's awful or does the wrong thing EVERY time he gets the ball and I've also never said that the lad can't finish or score a goal so I really don't get why everyone seems to think he's "proving me wrong".

I've often compared him to Andy Cole and think he's a very similar type of player.

His goal record is absolutely exceptional, of that there is no doubt... but he has too many games where he's "not at it" and doesn't influence a game often enough without scoring a goal.

On the Gerrard issue you're right I do defend him to the hilt because he's still good enough to produce performances like that the other day when people are calling him a liability. To be honest, if people slagged off Sturridge the way they were doing with Gerrard I'd defend him in the same way too as they're of a pretty similar level these days.

Its funny how all of these muppets only come out of the woodwork to have a pop when someone has a really good game, but as soon as they don't perform and the reasons are plain as day as to why others don't rate them as highly they vanish like a fart in the wind.

[Stu the Red]

ha ha Devaney - fecking long ladder !

Sturridge is selfish striker, he went for goal when a pass was on.
I seem to recall Ian Rush been selfish then, oh and Fowler he was selfish, oh and Owen and come to think of it so was Keegan & Dalglish. Yeah, to be a good top notch striker who gets regular goals you need to be selfish. Danny fits right in there then! And long may it continue.

So now you're comparing Sturridge to some of the best players ever to play for Liverpool?



do us a favour lad.

The difference with Rush, Dalglish, Owen, Fowler, Aldo, Keegan and the rest was they didn't put their own personal glory of being "the man" ahead of the greater good of the team.

[Stu the Red]

I reckon he is either stuck with the mind of an immature teenager who has a pride issue - in denial about being wrong

or

he is way ahead of his time and perfecting the stubborn 'stuck in my ways and thoughts' Grandad routine.

Chelsea and Man City have won the league, neither kept him and neither started him every match.

Liverpool play him most games and despite his goals and having probably one of the best players we've ever had and currently one of the best in the world... we're struggling to put any distance between ourselves, Everton and Spurs are are by no means nailed on for fourth.

[leeroy74]

ha ha Devaney - fecking long ladder !

Sturridge is selfish striker, he went for goal when a pass was on.
I seem to recall Ian Rush been selfish then, oh and Fowler he was selfish, oh and Owen and come to think of it so was Keegan & Dalglish. Yeah, to be a good top notch striker who gets regular goals you need to be selfish. Danny fits right in there then! And long may it continue.

So now you're comparing Sturridge to some of the best players ever to play for Liverpool?



do us a favour lad.

The difference with Rush, Dalglish, Owen, Fowler, Aldo, Keegan and the rest was they didn't put their own personal glory of being "the man" ahead of the greater good of the team.

No where and I'll repeat that NO WHERE did I compare those players.
you whopper

[devaney]

Stu whilst I know that you don't regard Danny as a poor player you certainly give the very strong impression that you don't like him which are clearly two different things. Let's face it you chose to heavily criticise the lad for some questionable decisions rather than congratulate him for his MOTM game winning brilliant goals. I really don't know what to deduce from that other than a desperate attempt to support your weak argument that you have now regurgitated on numerous occasions. You even suggest he is still worth only £12m.

Last night I watched Andy Carroll take the most inept air shot I have seen from a professional footballer in a very long time. The night before I watched Danny score a worldwide. We are moving forward and Danny is certainly not the reason why we are not streets ahead of the likes of Spurs and Everton.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

27 goals in 34 games, I wish every player we signed was as shyte as that.

[leeroy74]

27 goals in 34 games, I wish every player we signed was as shyte as that.

this!   a team full of cr@p players like that will do it!

[SouthCoastShankly]

I reckon he is either stuck with the mind of an immature teenager who has a pride issue - in denial about being wrong

or

he is way ahead of his time and perfecting the stubborn 'stuck in my ways and thoughts' Grandad routine.

Chelsea and Man City have won the league, neither kept him and neither started him every match.

Liverpool play him most games and despite his goals and having probably one of the best players we've ever had and currently one of the best in the world... we're struggling to put any distance between ourselves, Everton and Spurs are are by no means nailed on for fourth.

So you blaming the lack of distance between our position and those trailing behind because Sturridge isn't good enough?

Don't be a div Stu.

[Stu the Red]

Stu whilst I know that you don't regard Danny as a poor player you certainly give the very strong impression that you don't like him which are clearly two different things. Let's face it you chose to heavily criticise the lad for some questionable decisions rather than congratulate him for his MOTM game winning brilliant goals. I really don't know what to deduce from that other than a desperate attempt to support your weak argument that you have now regurgitated on numerous occasions. You even suggest he is still worth only £12m.

Last night I watched Andy Carroll take the most inept air shot I have seen from a professional footballer in a very long time. The night before I watched Danny score a worldwide. We are moving forward and Danny is certainly not the reason why we are not streets ahead of the likes of Spurs and Everton.

I don't like him. He's not the sort of player I'd build a side around as he doesn't give you enough, consistently enough and isn't a team player. Just because I don't like his style or believe him to be a lazy prima donna doesn't mean I can't accept the lads a good player. I also can't stand Adel Taarabt for the same reasons but happen to think he's also immensely talented (technically at least).

The point is when "questioning" rather than "praising" is quite simply what I'm praising. To say Everton's defending the other night was a disgrace is not doing them justice. Saturday league sides shouldn't get beaten by a straight 50 yard punt... Everton's hole back line did. Have you never heard analysts occasionally talking about long balls being "to straight"? Often teams use diagnal balls into a box as they're harder to defend and have more possible outcomes. Neither goal was a "a worldie". They were both well taken goals from a defence which was quite simply all over the shop on the night.

As I've said plenty of times, he'll always score goals, he has excellent pace and decent skill, his movement is usually very very good and he's an outstanding finisher. He's fairly strong and usually has a decent touch. Where he lets himself down is his work rate, team work, decision making and the amount of times he takes to many touches instead of taking one or two, releasing it they the way he's facing and getting beyond the ball. He also makes selfish runs and selfish passes on a consistent basis. He rarely if ever creates space for players around him. Suarez on the other hand does... make no mistake, the reason the "partnership" is held in such high regard is because you could put any half decent player up there with Luis and he'd make them twice the player.

To bring Auntie Carol into it is plain stupid. Carroll is nothing more than a yard dog and a donkey. Was never, has never been and never will be a footballer in a million years.

In short, I really can't be bothered arguing as its the same arguments I'm getting about Sturridge as I have heard time and time again over players like Lampard, Carragher and Terry.

For me, Sturridge should be back up for Suarez and there if we need a goal.

We've looked at our best in a 4-3-3 with Coutinho left, Suarez central and Sterling right side, replacing Sterling with a better but similar player is the way forward in that position. Options, quality, strength and depth... funnily enough... thats how you win a league... maybe I'm setting my expectations and hopes above everyone elses though.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Its funny how all of these muppets only come out of the woodwork to have a pop when someone has a really good game, but as soon as they don't perform and the reasons are plain as day as to why others don't rate them as highly they vanish like a fart in the wind.

Before you run the risk of falling into a big black pot marked 'irony' ,have a word with the kettle  ?