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[red till i die!!]

If the rumors I heard a few weeks ago (I think I posted them here as well) are true, then there will be a release clause. It will be 100 million pounds. I can't complain with that.

I think that there won't be any deals signed by Suarez until the season ends though. Still too early IMO.

£100mil 
he would be a fool if he signed that, there is maybe 3-4 clubs out there who can afford that and 2 of them would be in the prem.
as you said though i wouldnt be expecting it to be wrapped up till the end of the season and our position clearer

[woof woof !]

[quote="damjan193 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:06 pm"
I think that there won't be any deals signed by Suarez until the season ends though. [/quote]



He'll wait and see not only where we finish, CL qualification is a must, but also what our ambitions are (maybe money made available for signings ?) for the following season.

[Stu the Red]

[quote="damjan193 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:06 pm"
I think that there won't be any deals signed by Suarez until the season ends though.

He'll wait and see not only where we finish, CL qualification is a must, but also what our ambitions are (maybe money made available for signings ?) for the following season.[/quote]

I'd agree with that. If we can do the right business transfer wise though in January and brink in a quality midfielder and really push for that top four we may be able to get it sooner rather than later.

I'd seriously look at Schneiderlin. He'd replace and be a massive improvement on Lucas.

[JC_81]

We could win the league, qualify for the CL then sign 2 or 3 world class players in the summer and Suarez might still fancy a move to Madrid if they come knocking, given it's the biggest team in the world and historically the team that Latin players regard as their career pinnacle to sign for.

Don't see the point in doubling his wages in the meantime.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

We could win the league, qualify for the CL then sign 2 or 3 world class players in the summer and Suarez might still fancy a move to Madrid if they come knocking, given it's the biggest team in the world and historically the team that Latin players regard as their career pinnacle to sign for.

Don't see the point in doubling his wages in the meantime.

the smart money is probably on luis ending up in the white of madrid at some point JC, and the heirachy here probably realize that, but in the meantime i think they are going to try to do everything within their power to attempt to convince a genuine world class talent to stay, and i reckon this substantial pay rise is part of those efforts mate.

[maypaxvobiscum]

I can't imagine a Liverpool succeeding without Suarez. He's our Messi, our game-changer and too important to lose. We shouldn't just offer him a massive wage increase, but we should also make a statement by buying a top quality addition to our team. Spend big and go for someone like Juan Mata or Khadeira.

[devaney]

We could win the league, qualify for the CL then sign 2 or 3 world class players in the summer and Suarez might still fancy a move to Madrid if they come knocking, given it's the biggest team in the world and historically the team that Latin players regard as their career pinnacle to sign for.

Don't see the point in doubling his wages in the meantime.

the smart money is probably on luis ending up in the white of madrid at some point JC, and the heirachy here probably realize that, but in the meantime i think they are going to try to do everything within their power to attempt to convince a genuine world class talent to stay, and i reckon this substantial pay rise is part of those efforts mate.

Liverpool FC through skilled management, and I include the owners and Ayres, managed to keep Luis at the club. For his part he has put the summer behind him and contributed massively to achieve our current level of success.What follows now will perhaps define our future over the next 5/6 years. The owners and Ayres must not fk about with the contract negotiations. The new contract has to spell out very clearly to Luis just how important he is to Liverpool FC. If they go in too low and insult him then that will clearly cause problems. Come on Ayres bite the bullet and make him the highest paid player in the country. HE IS WORTH IT. And who knows the smart money may have just got it wrong again.

[SouthCoastShankly]

We could win the league, qualify for the CL then sign 2 or 3 world class players in the summer and Suarez might still fancy a move to Madrid if they come knocking, given it's the biggest team in the world and historically the team that Latin players regard as their career pinnacle to sign for.

Don't see the point in doubling his wages in the meantime.

the smart money is probably on luis ending up in the white of madrid at some point JC, and the heirachy here probably realize that, but in the meantime i think they are going to try to do everything within their power to attempt to convince a genuine world class talent to stay, and i reckon this substantial pay rise is part of those efforts mate.

Liverpool FC through skilled management, and I include the owners and Ayres, managed to keep Luis at the club. For his part he has put the summer behind him and contributed massively to achieve our current level of success.What follows now will perhaps define our future over the next 5/6 years. The owners and Ayres must not fk about with the contract negotiations. The new contract has to spell out very clearly to Luis just how important he is to Liverpool FC. If they go in too low and insult him then that will clearly cause problems. Come on Ayres bite the bullet and make him the highest paid player in the country. HE IS WORTH IT. And who knows the smart money may have just got it wrong again.

He clearly is worth to us, however I don't see why he needs to be the highest paid player in the league. It's about what he wants, and he doesn't seem the mercenary type to pursue the highest salary possible. I am sure the contract negotiations will hinge around achievement, especially around qualification for the CL. I would be amazed if he signs anything until CL qualification has been secured.

[devaney]

I'm not sure SCS. I feel the purpose of these negotiations is to try and secure his services for the long term and to ensure that we receive the absolute maximum for Luis if he leaves. If we don't qualify for the CL and he hasn't signed a new contract then his value will be less simply because of the period left on his contract and the fact that other clubs are very aware of his desire for CL football.

My suggestion to make him the highest paid player in the Premiership is not simply a money motivator because I agree that is not an absolute as far as Luis is concerned. A sense of belonging is a massive motivator for Luis as far as I can see. A huge desire to achieve is also important. Being liked and respected especially by fans but also team mates is another factor that makes him tick. Demonstrative displays of desire by the club to equal his ambition, and I don't mean buying the likes of Aspas, are possibly right at the top of the list of key motivators.  Security for his family is also paramount. By giving him the best contract and highest paid in the Premiership is the confirmation needed that he hugely respected by the club and proof that the club shares his ambition.. The contract should be designed to cover several key motivators and not just financial reward. If we have a very good transfer window in January then he may just sign a new contract.

Brendan Rodgers was recently quoted as saying that Liverpool FC is not just about Luis Suarez. He was right but the future success of Liverpool FC may just be all about Luis Suarez !!

[Red Focus]

I think he has the upper hand here in bargaining with us. Liverpool needs him more than he needs Liverpool. To keep him, we need to win the PL, secure a few quality signings up front and midfield to show our ambitions and the big 2 in Spain don't want him. As far as I can see, I don't see any of those 3 happening. Top 4 finish maybe but to win the PL this season is totally out of the question. Without CL and FSG's reluctance to invest, it is hard to secure such signings. With the rate he's going now, all the top clubs in PL and Europe will be beating down his door for his signature. So we should enjoy his presence while he's still here and the most I can hope for is a big price like 85M to sell him and with top 4 finish hopefully, we can secure some quality replacements wisely not like AVB.

[SouthCoastShankly]

I think he has the upper hand here in bargaining with us. Liverpool needs him more than he needs Liverpool. To keep him, we need to win the PL, secure a few quality signings up front and midfield to show our ambitions and the big 2 in Spain don't want him. As far as I can see, I don't see any of those 3 happening. Top 4 finish maybe but to win the PL this season is totally out of the question. Without CL and FSG's reluctance to invest, it is hard to secure such signings. With the rate he's going now, all the top clubs in PL and Europe will be beating down his door for his signature. So we should enjoy his presence while he's still here and the most I can hope for is a big price like 85M to sell him and with top 4 finish hopefully, we can secure some quality replacements wisely not like AVB.

I disagree.

Top 3 and some decent signings will see him stay. The only caveat to that will be if Madrid make a massive £80+ bid.

[jacdaniel]

I think he has the upper hand here in bargaining with us. Liverpool needs him more than he needs Liverpool. To keep him, we need to win the PL, secure a few quality signings up front and midfield to show our ambitions and the big 2 in Spain don't want him. As far as I can see, I don't see any of those 3 happening. Top 4 finish maybe but to win the PL this season is totally out of the question. Without CL and FSG's reluctance to invest, it is hard to secure such signings. With the rate he's going now, all the top clubs in PL and Europe will be beating down his door for his signature. So we should enjoy his presence while he's still here and the most I can hope for is a big price like 85M to sell him and with top 4 finish hopefully, we can secure some quality replacements wisely not like AVB.

Some people thought we needed Torres more than he needs us.  Look at his reputation now...
Many top players have left over the years and I struggle to think of one that achieved more in terms of both reputation and trophies.

Some players went on to win trophies but their reputations were never the same.  Torres, Owen, even Mascherano to an extent.

[Stu the Red]

I think he has the upper hand here in bargaining with us. Liverpool needs him more than he needs Liverpool. To keep him, we need to win the PL, secure a few quality signings up front and midfield to show our ambitions and the big 2 in Spain don't want him. As far as I can see, I don't see any of those 3 happening. Top 4 finish maybe but to win the PL this season is totally out of the question. Without CL and FSG's reluctance to invest, it is hard to secure such signings. With the rate he's going now, all the top clubs in PL and Europe will be beating down his door for his signature. So we should enjoy his presence while he's still here and the most I can hope for is a big price like 85M to sell him and with top 4 finish hopefully, we can secure some quality replacements wisely not like AVB.

Some people thought we needed Torres more than he needs us.  Look at his reputation now...
Many top players have left over the years and I struggle to think of one that achieved more in terms of both reputation and trophies.

Some players went on to win trophies but their reputations were never the same.  Torres, Owen, even Mascherano to an extent.

Owen had lost his pace when he left, Torres has lost his confidence and also half a yard and Mascherano was never as good as he was made out to be.

Suarez is different to all of the above. He's far and away the best player I've ever seen in a red shirt. He's a genius who'd improve every side in the world.

Alonso left and his reputation remained the same if not increased, Xabi was a great player and Luis is far better than Xabi could ever dream of being... that's saying something.

[red till i die!!]

I think he has the upper hand here in bargaining with us. Liverpool needs him more than he needs Liverpool. To keep him, we need to win the PL, secure a few quality signings up front and midfield to show our ambitions and the big 2 in Spain don't want him. As far as I can see, I don't see any of those 3 happening. Top 4 finish maybe but to win the PL this season is totally out of the question. Without CL and FSG's reluctance to invest, it is hard to secure such signings. With the rate he's going now, all the top clubs in PL and Europe will be beating down his door for his signature. So we should enjoy his presence while he's still here and the most I can hope for is a big price like 85M to sell him and with top 4 finish hopefully, we can secure some quality replacements wisely not like AVB.

Some people thought we needed Torres more than he needs us.  Look at his reputation now...
Many top players have left over the years and I struggle to think of one that achieved more in terms of both reputation and trophies.

Some players went on to win trophies but their reputations were never the same.  Torres, Owen, even Mascherano to an extent.

those players have never been appreciated as much as they were here. im convinced had nando stayed and played alongside luis  we could have won the league by now.
id lost a lot of respect for owen when he left for the money and then the rest of it when he went to old toilet, he ruined his status among the fans after that and slur only did it to get one over us.
masch excelled here and left to become a bit part player for barca. he was fantastic at what he did for us and its something we havent yet replaced. barca are a massive lure but he was truly appreciated here even though he was limited in ability.
id often wondered if the players themselves felt that they maybe where a bit hasty in wanting to go and would they turn back the clock if they could.

[Octsky]

I think he has the upper hand here in bargaining with us. Liverpool needs him more than he needs Liverpool. To keep him, we need to win the PL, secure a few quality signings up front and midfield to show our ambitions and the big 2 in Spain don't want him. As far as I can see, I don't see any of those 3 happening. Top 4 finish maybe but to win the PL this season is totally out of the question. Without CL and FSG's reluctance to invest, it is hard to secure such signings. With the rate he's going now, all the top clubs in PL and Europe will be beating down his door for his signature. So we should enjoy his presence while he's still here and the most I can hope for is a big price like 85M to sell him and with top 4 finish hopefully, we can secure some quality replacements wisely not like AVB.

Some people thought we needed Torres more than he needs us.  Look at his reputation now...
Many top players have left over the years and I struggle to think of one that achieved more in terms of both reputation and trophies.

Some players went on to win trophies but their reputations were never the same.  Torres, Owen, even Mascherano to an extent.

Owen had lost his pace when he left, Torres has lost his confidence and also half a yard and Mascherano was never as good as he was made out to be.

Suarez is different to all of the above. He's far and away the best player I've ever seen in a red shirt. He's a genius who'd improve every side in the world.

Alonso left and his reputation remained the same if not increased, Xabi was a great player and Luis is far better than Xabi could ever dream of being... that's saying something.

alonso and suraez are two totally different players,
comparing the two is like "i love drinking beer more than eating ramen but my favorite is going sky diving"
i think giving suraez the cap's arm band is a smart move. it improves his performance, attachment to club (hopefully) and responsibility. i rmb during the spurs game, someone clipped him in his heel, he kneel down, and try to hook the ball towards goal instead of looking for a penalty.
we have got to keep our best players to have a chance of winning the league, players like owen, torres, masch and macca.
when these two were homegrown boys, you'd roughly know where players loyalty lies.
at the end of the day, if we got champ league qualification then chances of him staying is like 70%.