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[Stu the Red]

Devaney, don't encourage him lad, I'm already nodding off.

[Benny The Noon]

Stu can you please try and speak to posters in a civil tone regardless of what you think of their opinion. You dint need to throw insults at posters every time you post something just because you disagree with their opinion. Let's try and please keep the threads respectful.

All I have done is post an article and agreed with the premise of it in terms of the effect of travelling long distances on Suarez - an effect that it appears our manager also understands and an effect that previous managers also understood and other managers in the league.

[Stu the Red]

And repeated your opinion your fifty times over. We all know you think its a major problem, no-one agrees and most think you're making it out to be something it isn't, why not just leave it at that instead of constantly having to get the last word in? As I said, you're boring everyone to death again.

[Benny The Noon]

And repeated your opinion your fifty times over. We all know you think its a major problem, no-one agrees and most think you're making it out to be something it isn't, why not just leave it at that instead of constantly having to get the last word in? As I said, you're boring everyone to death again.

It's called a debate Stu. If it's boring you then don't take part where as I'm just responding to posts that are being made.

Will leave you too it now and responded when someone posts on the actual subject.

[Benny The Noon]

Liverpool striker Luis Suarez could miss the Merseyside derby against Everton on 23 November with the prospect of a 17,000 mile round trip to fulfil Uruguay's two-legged World Cup play-off tie against Jordan.

Despite beating Argentina 3-2 in their final game, Uruguay finished fifth in South American qualifying below Ecuador on goal difference. Oscar Tabarez's side now face a two-legged play-off next month against Jordan, who finished fifth in Asian qualifying, in order to qualify for Brazil next year.

After playing Fulham in the Premier League on 9 November, Suarez must travel 2,426 miles to Amman to meet up with his Uruguayan team-mates ahead of the first leg against Jordan on 13 November.

The second leg takes place in Montevideo a week later on 20 November, a full 7,525-mile journey away. Suarez then faces a 14-hour 6,887 return flight to Liverpool ahead of the Merseyside derby against Everton on 23 November.

By the time Suarez returns to British shores he will have travelled close to 17,000 miles in less than two weeks, leaving him severely leg-weary ahead of his return to club action, not least due to having featured in two decisive World Cup qualifiers for the 2011 Copa America champions.

Suarez has never previously missed matches due to travel commitments with Uruguay, however, the distance he will be required to travel is unprecedented since he moved to Liverpool from Ajax in January 2011.

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers wanted to rest Suarez last October following two qualifiers against Argentina and Boliva, which required the 26 year old to make one trip to South America, coupled with one internal journey.

On that occasion, prior to the signing of Daniel Sturridge and with Fabio Borini out injured, Rodgers was forced to play Suarez against Reading upon his return but hinted that resources had been stretched.

"I've rested Luis a couple of times knowing the squad we have and the games we have, looking to prioritise, but like most footballers he wants to play every minute of every game," Rodgers said last October.

"It is something I need to assess [resting Suarez]. The most important thing is winning games - that is what we need to do and in order to do that as often as we can I need the best players on the field.

"It is not ideal, but that is the card we have been dealt. It leaves us short, there's no getting away from that but it is what we've got. We just crack on and look to get positive results."

With the demand on Suarez likely to be great given the lack of forward options available to Rodgers, it would come as no surprise should the Northern Irishman rest the forward for the trip to Everton.

Suarez's Schedule

9 November: Liverpool v Fulham

2,426 miles: Liverpool to Amman

13 November: Jordan v Uruguay

7,552 miles: Amman to Montevideo

20 November: Uruguay v Jordan

6,887 miles: Montevideo to Liverpool

23 November: Everton v Liverpool

Total: 16,865 miles (Source: http://www.distancefromto.net)

Pretty simple solution to all of this Benny.

Tell Suarez to put the foot down against Jordan in Amman and win 6-0 to 7-0. 

That way he doesn't need to travel back to Montevideo as the 2 legged result is already in the bag.

This will be a pretty one-legged contest anyway.

That's would be the perfect solution Eds - Could see him back nice and early and rested for the Derby. Smash Jordan ( not the plastic slag ) and then smash the Bitters. Would be a good week for him

[devaney]

International Sports Board for Medicine highly recommend doing no heavy exercise for up to three days after long haul flights - Suarez looking at his schedule won't get back to this country until Thursday evening/Friday morning. If you also include what SCS suggests that has full recovery etc around Sunday possibly Monday

Up to three days is exactly the point I have been trying to make. Not three days - up to three days. Luis will probably sleep in his own bed for two nights prior to the Everton match. He will be fine.

[SouthCoastShankly]

At the end of the day the recovery period for jet lag is designed to reset your body clock. You can land with jet lag and still be 100% fit and ready to do whatever...assuming you are on a body clock time you are familiar with.

If Suarez feels awake and ready in time for kick off on Saturday morning they'll be no reason to doubt it. I find coming back from the US (which is the same time zones as Latin America), I crash out about 3pm uk time. Everyone is different though.

However I suspect Suarez being a seasoned travelled he has a routine that works for him.

[redno7]

That could be the key to all this right there scs. Luis will have a routine that gets him back on track quickly. People get employed by the players and the club's to work all this shizzle out.
He'll be up for it. No doubt.

[Kenny Kan]

When I fly from Australia to England, i don't really get jet lag, a bit tired but within 24hrs I'm in the GMT zone.
When I fly from England to Australia, I get jet lag big time and am usually fvcked for 4-5 days.

[Stu the Red]

When I fly from Australia to England, i don't really get jet lag, a bit tired but within 24hrs I'm in the GMT zone.
When I fly from England to Australia, I get jet lag big time and am usually fvcked for 4-5 days.

Kenny your signature is very racist, you'd better change that lad, can't say monkey on the internet mate because someone might see it and get offended!

[devaney]

When I fly from Australia to England, i don't really get jet lag, a bit tired but within 24hrs I'm in the GMT zone.
When I fly from England to Australia, I get jet lag big time and am usually fvcked for 4-5 days.

Kenny your signature is very racist, you'd better change that lad, can't say monkey on the internet mate because someone might see it and get offended!

Stu - I just hope Luis doesn't test the water and say something similar to Hodgson - HE PROBABLY GET A 20 MATCH BAN 

Kenny Kan - I'm the complete opposite. After three, back to back, 7 hour flights going to Oz I'm ok the next day and I'm not a super fit footballer in his twenties travelling first class. Coming back to England is a very different matter and it takes me several days to recover. I do absolutely nothing to help myself and there are several tried and tested ways of successfully reducing the effects of jet lag and professional sports people will almost certainly use them.The key however is that we our all different and not everybody is effected in the same way.

[SouthCoastShankly]

When I fly from Australia to England, i don't really get jet lag, a bit tired but within 24hrs I'm in the GMT zone.
When I fly from England to Australia, I get jet lag big time and am usually fvcked for 4-5 days.

tracelling east is a bitch!

[woof woof !]

Flown UK to California and back, also UK to far east and back several times, maybe it's just me but not once did I experience "jet lag".

Mind you those Bi Planes are pretty slow 

Seriously , never had jet leg, a couple of drinks or a bit of a kip and I was right as rain.

[devaney]

The important thing is given that Luis only landed back in the country on Thursday is that jet lag didn't seem to affect him.

[bunglemark2]

Sounds like you folks are doing a lot of international travel.
I didn't realise this forum was popular with drug smugglers, sex traffickers and hit men for hire