Liverpool FC Forum

[Kenny Kan]

I don't understand the need to do it all in the media either. Demanding an apology via the press is tantamount to trapping an angry cat in the corner. I will be very surprised if Suarez is a Liverpool player beyond the end of the window. In fact it would surprise me to still see him at Arsenal for 50 mill if they stump up the money.

I'm fairly certain whether this issue was dealt with privately or publicly the outcome would have been the same. I think Rodgers is best placed to judge this - no harm done imo.

[Benny The Noon]

In terms of Suarez being sent to rot in the reserves - this is why we can't

FIFA regulations, article 15. Terminating a contract with sporting just cause.

An established professional who has, in the course of the season, appeared in fewer than ten per cent of the official matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the ground of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of a sporting just cause shall be established on a case- by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last official match of the season of the club with which he is registered.

[Kenny Kan]

In terms of Suarez being sent to rot in the reserves - this is why we can't

FIFA regulations, article 15. Terminating a contract with sporting just cause.

An established professional who has, in the course of the season, appeared in fewer than ten per cent of the official matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the ground of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of a sporting just cause shall be established on a case- by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last official match of the season of the club with which he is registered.

That doesn't say he can't rot.

a/ Even if we play 50 games, Suarez can feature in 6 of them.
b/ His circumstances are considered - they could be favoured towards the club.
c/ It's case by case - which means the rule isn't absolute.
d/ Suarez won't be around to terminate his contract within 15 days of the last season (next year), he'll be gone by then.

He can rot if the manager so decides.

Next....

[Greavesie]

Didn't Chelsea let Malouda rot last season?

[Octsky]

In terms of Suarez being sent to rot in the reserves - this is why we can't

FIFA regulations, article 15. Terminating a contract with sporting just cause.

An established professional who has, in the course of the season, appeared in fewer than ten per cent of the official matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the ground of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of a sporting just cause shall be established on a case- by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last official match of the season of the club with which he is registered.

That doesn't say he can't rot.

a/ Even if we play 50 games, Suarez can feature in 6 of them.
b/ His circumstances are considered - they could be favoured towards the club.
c/ It's case by case - which means the rule isn't absolute.
d/ Suarez won't be around to terminate his contract within 15 days of the last season (next year), he'll be gone by then.

He can rot if the manager so decides.

Next....

yes we can, let him rot in reserve to teach him a lesson. but why must we?
it is financially not feasible..
assuming we forgone a transfer fee of 50m plus his three yr annual wages of (100k*4*12*3)= 14.4m
three yr rotting on bench = 64.4m equals to 21.5m per yr.

i think all this talk abt suarez not going at any price is just a negotiating tactic. he is going as he has burned all bridges.

[Kenny Kan]

In terms of Suarez being sent to rot in the reserves - this is why we can't

FIFA regulations, article 15. Terminating a contract with sporting just cause.

An established professional who has, in the course of the season, appeared in fewer than ten per cent of the official matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the ground of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of a sporting just cause shall be established on a case- by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last official match of the season of the club with which he is registered.

That doesn't say he can't rot.

a/ Even if we play 50 games, Suarez can feature in 6 of them.
b/ His circumstances are considered - they could be favoured towards the club.
c/ It's case by case - which means the rule isn't absolute.
d/ Suarez won't be around to terminate his contract within 15 days of the last season (next year), he'll be gone by then.

He can rot if the manager so decides.

Next....

yes we can, let him rot in reserve to teach him a lesson. but why must we?
it is financially not feasible..
assuming we forgone a transfer fee of 50m plus his three yr annual wages of (100k*4*12*3)= 14.4m
three yr rotting on bench = 64.4m equals to 21.5m per yr.

i think all this talk abt suarez not going at any price is just a negotiating tactic. he is going as he has burned all bridges.

I don't think he'll be around for three years do you?

It's a short term view to ensure the club are in control of Suarez's situation, rather than letting him dictate the course of action. Player power in the game has all but ruined the notion of contracts, it's good to see a club using it's power to ensure they're a better off and not the player himself.

[Benny The Noon]

Didn't Chelsea let Malouda rot last season?

Last year of contract - left during the summer.

[Benny The Noon]

In terms of Suarez being sent to rot in the reserves - this is why we can't

FIFA regulations, article 15. Terminating a contract with sporting just cause.

An established professional who has, in the course of the season, appeared in fewer than ten per cent of the official matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the ground of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of a sporting just cause shall be established on a case- by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last official match of the season of the club with which he is registered.

That doesn't say he can't rot.

a/ Even if we play 50 games, Suarez can feature in 6 of them.
b/ His circumstances are considered - they could be favoured towards the club.
c/ It's case by case - which means the rule isn't absolute.
d/ Suarez won't be around to terminate his contract within 15 days of the last season (next year), he'll be gone by then.

He can rot if the manager so decides.

Next....

yes we can, let him rot in reserve to teach him a lesson. but why must we?
it is financially not feasible..
assuming we forgone a transfer fee of 50m plus his three yr annual wages of (100k*4*12*3)= 14.4m
three yr rotting on bench = 64.4m equals to 21.5m per yr.

i think all this talk abt suarez not going at any price is just a negotiating tactic. he is going as he has burned all bridges.

Letting him rot in the reserves will not benefit us at all - his price will go down and we will still pay his wages. Selling him is the only way it will end without more trouble

[Redrider]

Rodgers is a complete 'dipstick' when it comes down to PR. He goes public inapropriately and comes out with too much cliched clap-trap. He could easily make a mess of the Suarez situation.
Thankfully, FSG have been quite simple and statesmanlike, completely dedflating Arsenal with Henry's announcement and simple humour, with 'what are these guys smoking' 

[Kenny Kan]

Keeping him away from the squad and making him train on his own will indeed benefit us - causing rifts and disharmony amongst the squad won't benefit us, Rodgers has had to take this action to keep focus on the season ahead and morale up.

I'm sure we'll sell him when the right club and offer come in, that I have no doubt.

Like I said, it's a short term view to do right by the club and it's players.

[damjan193]

If we let him rot we lose him and we get no money to sign a replacement. That's why it's hard to see how we can benefit from that. If we sell him we still lose him obviously but we'll at least get money to bring in someone to replace him.

[Kenny Kan]

If we let him rot we lose him and we get no money to sign a replacement. That's why it's hard to see how we can benefit from that. If we sell him we still lose him obviously but we'll at least get money to bring in someone to replace him.

He's currently starting his rot now though (training alone etc), I'll be surprised if a transfer request doesn't come in before the window shuts and even more surprised if a team from Europe won't take the punt on him. If an when that time comes and he hasn't moved on Rodgers can re-assess the situation.

[Benny The Noon]

If we let him rot we lose him and we get no money to sign a replacement. That's why it's hard to see how we can benefit from that. If we sell him we still lose him obviously but we'll at least get money to bring in someone to replace him.

Sell him then the owners statements look daft - if he doesn't sell because the owners refuse to sell as they state and Suarez refuses to apologise then what does BR do. Someone from the club is going to look stupid again because of public statements.

[Kenny Kan]

If the owners sell him to the right club for the right price they won't look stupid.

Suarez's position is untenable, it's as simple as that.

On that note, he's put a blanket ban whilst on international duty with the media about this issue and he's even asked his Uruguayn team mates to keep quiet about it - I wonder what that's all about.   

[Redrider]

Suarez has probably gone quiet because Madrid, will have laid the ground by sounding him out re' a move should the Bale negotiations break down.
Watch this space, he could be off our payroll this time next week.
RM may even have opened a phone line with John Henry.