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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:04 pm

kazza » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:00 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:36 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:55 pm wrote:SSN are reporting that madrid have bid £85m for bale.
if that deal goes through i cant see them bidding £50m for suarez as well


That's a lot of money for them to spend on quality players - it could end up strengthening them.

Bale was everything to Spurs last year and he got them out of a lot of trouble. You sell a guaranteed match winner and buy players that may or may not succeed in the prem and they have a foreign coach without that much PL experience. If I were Spurs I would rather have Bale than the money. They may be weaker next year despite all that money. Spurs selling Bale is good for us.


If they get Soldaldo in plus a couple of £20mil signings then instead of having one match winner they could have 3 or more - the team ends up being stronger overall.
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Postby tubby » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:17 pm

I don't think they will sell him. That Levy is standing firm much the same way they did with Modric. He will maybe get Soldado and a few others and try get back into top 4 next season at which point that will hopefully be enough to persuade him to stay.

For Real 100Mil is paying over the odds. Even Suarez at 50Mil would be better value to them.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:21 pm

Do you really think they would turn down £80- 90 mil for him ? I know they played hardball with them for Modric but that's a lot of money to turn down.

But if he does stay and they complete the signing of Soldaldo then they would be favourites for CL football
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Postby parchpea » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:21 pm

Love the window I do and linked with Konoplyanka now the Ukranian Messi  :love:

I mean if this is straight up the kid will either be absolutely sensational or utter shyte and that kind of gamble
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:26 pm

Ian Abrahams ‏@BroadcastMoose 4m
Looks like Raheem Sterling is the player bring linked with West Ham, but I'm told its not a done deal yet

??? Sterling reported to be close to a loan deal !!

Also Bit about this Benfica guy

Liverpool target Lorenzo Melgarejo: An in-depth look at the Benfica man wanted by the Kop

“Why did they let him go?” is one of the first questions any fan wondering about a new acquisition should ask when a young prospect is released.

In the case of 22 year-old Paraguayan Lorenzo Melgarejo, the apparently simple answer of “he didn’t do the business for Benfica last season”, is just one, very small, part of the story.

First thing's first. Liverpool target Melgarejo is an exciting, talented, free-scoring left winger .

Or rather, he was.

His position is purposely written in italics, because if you read any review on Benfica in 2012/13, Melgarejo will be correctly listed as a left-back.

However, it was on the wing where he made his name. He was bought by Benfica from Independiente in 2011 and immediately loaned out to modest Portuguese top-flight club, Paços de Ferreira. This is common practice in Portugal, with FC Porto and Benfica especially contracting a bucket-load of South Americans each summer, a significant proportion of whom fit into the “let’s have a punt on him” category. Most disappear without trace.

Not Melgarejo. A string of vibrant displays on the left flank (see video) saw him finish top scorer for Paços in 2011/12 (10 goals in 29 league games), almost single-handedly saving the club from relegation. It was enough to persuade Benfica to bring him into the senior squad on an improved and extended contract until 2018, with a €30 million release clause written into it.

However, Melgarejo was never given the chance to build on his brilliant season in his natural position. Benfica coach Jorge Jesus’ all-out attacking philosophy makes his teams a joy to watch, but the tactician comes with a hefty dose of arrogance, some would say delusion, others downright stubbornness.

Jesus insisted from the outset that Melgarejo would be Benfica’s first-choice left-back, undoubtedly influenced by the spectacular success in bringing about the exact same conversion in the case of Fábio Coentrão. Coentrão arrived at Benfica a talented winger. He left in exchange for €30 million euros from Real Madrid having established himself as one of the world’s finest in his position.

It soon became clear to most onlookers that history would not repeat itself. A series of blunders during preseason cost several goals but Jesus insisted in proving the critics wrong. Not even after the first Liga game of the season, when Melgarejo scored a spectacular own goal and laid on a perfect ‘assist’ for the opposition, in a 2-2 draw against Braga, would Jesus be dissuaded from abandoning his experiment.

And so the whole season the position remained Benfica’s weak spot, with opposition teams evidently targeting Melgarejo. He improved, but his lack of aggression and positional difficulties made it clear, especially against stronger adversaries, that he did not have the attributes to perform the role asked of him to any degree of success. By the end of the campaign the penny finally dropped and Jorge Jesus dropped Melgarejo for the Portuguese Cup final.

The skill, speed and directness of the Paraguayan’s forward runs in 2012/13, allied to a commendable incisiveness (scoring in successive home games in March) shows he remains an exciting prospect with a big future in the game. But not at left-back.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... th-2101704
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Postby Redman in wales » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:36 pm

Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:26 pm wrote:Ian Abrahams ‏@BroadcastMoose 4m
Looks like Raheem Sterling is the player bring linked with West Ham, but I'm told its not a done deal yet

??? Sterling reported to be close to a loan deal !!



no chance. not the way BR talks about him

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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:40 pm

Well I would take what BR says with a pinch of salt at the moment but Sterling on loan is definitely a no for me - he should be a regular starter for us
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Postby tubby » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:45 pm

He just signed a new deal last year didn't he? Would be shocked if we let him go.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:49 pm

tubby » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:45 pm wrote:He just signed a new deal last year didn't he? Would be shocked if we let him go.


The deal is only a loan deal
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Postby tubby » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:51 pm

Even still I thought last season he offered us something, before he ran out of steam. Depending on what other players we bring in we may still need him at least as an impact sub.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:54 pm

Yeah he was too young to play a full season last year and was relied on too much last season. As he develops physically he will become better and better.
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Postby Kenny Kan » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:30 pm

Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:56 am wrote:
Johnny Boy » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:25 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:07 am wrote:Think Coates hasn't been given a fair chance so far - last season we needed a strong CB and Coates wasn't given a chance - he was thrown in against Oldham after hardly playing for ages and it was clear he was rusty. He has all the attributes to be quality CB and has shown it - if he goes I hope it's on loan to show how well he can play. If we sell him we will regret it I believe


It can't be easy for him, but it's a difficult situation he needs a regular run, but I can't see him getting that.
I don't think Coates is suited to the English game.


Coates may well not be suited to the english game - but we surely need to give him a chance to find that out.


Funny, because you're reluctant to give Aspas that chance.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:43 pm

parchpea » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:21 pm wrote:Love the window I do and linked with Konoplyanka now the Ukranian Messi  :love:

I mean if this is straight up the kid will either be absolutely sensational or utter shyte and that kind of gamble
works for me  :buttrock



Very skillful player - tricky as hell - a bit like Nani - just needs to refined and nutured. Could definitely be a quality player
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Postby Redman in wales » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:16 pm

Ben Smith from the times: sterling rumours wide of the mark
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:17 pm

That's good news.
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