Liverpool FC Forum

[aCe']

ace a lot has changed at this club since 2010/11, i think the purse strings have tightened dramatically since then.
FSG said themselves that significantly reducing the wage bill was one of their top priorities. they said it was unsustainable for the club to continue in the manner it was. those figures from 2011 were probably the high water mark.

Well, if we take the last 2 years as you suggest then I still can't see how we could have possibly reduced our wage spending given our transfers (in and out) during the period. From the players that one would assume would be paid 50k+,
we lost: Meireles, Poulsen, Jovanovic, Cole Aquilani, Maxi, and Kuyt.
we brought in: Enrique, Downing, Henderson, Coutinho, Sturridge, Allen, Borini.
We also offered big contracts to our 3 highest paid players under the current ownership recently so I suppose it is more about getting the wage balance right rather than reducing the wages.

Regardless, with Cole, Carra, and now Carroll (it seems) leaving the club, we should have enough room in our wage budget to pay for at least 2 100K+ players, or 5 40K players. Again, its in our hands, and you get what you pay for more often than not.

[Kenny Kan]

ace a lot has changed at this club since 2010/11, i think the purse strings have tightened dramatically since then.
FSG said themselves that significantly reducing the wage bill was one of their top priorities. they said it was unsustainable for the club to continue in the manner it was. those figures from 2011 were probably the high water mark.

I think I read somewhere they trimmed 25M off of wages, i.e getting rid of driftwood like J.Cole etc...

[ethanr]

ace a lot has changed at this club since 2010/11, i think the purse strings have tightened dramatically since then.
FSG said themselves that significantly reducing the wage bill was one of their top priorities. they said it was unsustainable for the club to continue in the manner it was. those figures from 2011 were probably the high water mark.

Well, if we take the last 2 years as you suggest then I still can't see how we could have possibly reduced our wage spending given our transfers (in and out) during the period. From the players that one would assume would be paid 50k+,
we lost: Meireles, Poulsen, Jovanovic, Cole Aquilani, Maxi, and Kuyt.
we brought in: Enrique, Downing, Henderson, Coutinho, Sturridge, Allen, Borini.
We also offered big contracts to our 3 highest paid players under the current ownership recently so I suppose it is more about getting the wage balance right rather than reducing the wages.

Regardless, with Cole, Carra, and now Carroll (it seems) leaving the club, we should have enough room in our wage budget to pay for at least 2 100K+ players, or 5 40K players. Again, its in our hands, and you get what you pay for more often than not.

When FSG came in they actually said they wanted to increase the wage bill.  They wanted to increase it because they wanted to show they were willing to put the money into the club.  They believed you have to pay to get the quality you want, but they are still businessmen and refuse to pay way over what people are worth.  They also immediately extended the contracts of a few of our key players, giving them a slight pay raise.  After bringing in the likes of Suarez, Carroll, Hendo, Downing, Adam, Enrique and the lot, they then declared it was time to reduce the wage bill by getting rid of the excess players, Cole, Aquilani, N'Gog,etc.

I feel they have stuck to their plan, which they have been very open about, all along to be honest, and the issues we've had have been related to the players we have brought in by Comolli, Kenny, and now Rodgers.  We paid what we had to pay to get the players we wanted, and the wages we paid them were somewhat parallel to the fee we've paid for them. 

So I'd agree with you, it is about finding the balance.  I don't think there's any number they're trying to get to, or specifically lowering or raising the wage bill, they are just trying to balance them based on the amount of money we spend on players.

[Reg]

FSG are doing a good job but they're new to the game, the culture and player power. This week they learned their star players turn round and bite their ***** if they don't invest sufficiently to guarantee CL football. Bet that went down well.

[Thommo's perm]

FSG are doing a good job but they're new to the game, the culture and player power. This week they learned their star players turn round and bite their ***** if they don't invest sufficiently to guarantee CL football. Bet that went down well.

Suarez biting again Reginald...?

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

ace a lot has changed at this club since 2010/11, i think the purse strings have tightened dramatically since then.
FSG said themselves that significantly reducing the wage bill was one of their top priorities. they said it was unsustainable for the club to continue in the manner it was. those figures from 2011 were probably the high water mark.

I think I read somewhere they trimmed 25M off of wages, i.e getting rid of driftwood like J.Cole etc...

yeah i seem to remember that was the sort of figure being bandied about a while back when people were explaining how fsg had broken even despite spending a good few bob on players.

[Kharhaz]

To this day it still angers me when all you read is how Suarez refused to shake Evras hand.

Even though the pictures show clearly that Evra was at fault, it was Evra who refused to shake Suarez' hand and made him look the bad guy. Every article you read about Suarez, that handshake bs pops up, and people buy it.

I would very much like Suarez to stay, but I honestly wouldn't blame him if he left. The guy has been treated like sh!t. 8 game ban for racism compared to Terry's 4, 10 game ban for biting when English players have got away with the same offence. Constant critics calling him on his diving while Bale wins all awards for being the complete player.

Its all a f*cking joke.

[Kenny Kan]

To this day it still angers me when all you read is how Suarez refused to shake Evras hand.

Even though the pictures show clearly that Evra was at fault, it was Evra who refused to shake Suarez' hand and made him look the bad guy. Every article you read about Suarez, that handshake bs pops up, and people buy it.

I would very much like Suarez to stay, but I honestly wouldn't blame him if he left. The guy has been treated like sh!t. 8 game ban for racism compared to Terry's 4, 10 game ban for biting when English players have got away with the same offence. Constant critics calling him on his diving while Bale wins all awards for being the complete player.

Its all a f*cking joke.

I agree mate especially the handshake part, Evra tried to play games and lowered his hand the evidence is on video and yet Suarez still got blamed.

What frustrates me even more is that some LFC fans condemned him too.

[Kharhaz]

To this day it still angers me when all you read is how Suarez refused to shake Evras hand.

Even though the pictures show clearly that Evra was at fault, it was Evra who refused to shake Suarez' hand and made him look the bad guy. Every article you read about Suarez, that handshake bs pops up, and people buy it.

I would very much like Suarez to stay, but I honestly wouldn't blame him if he left. The guy has been treated like sh!t. 8 game ban for racism compared to Terry's 4, 10 game ban for biting when English players have got away with the same offence. Constant critics calling him on his diving while Bale wins all awards for being the complete player.

Its all a f*cking joke.

I agree mate especially the handshake part, Evra tried to play games and lowered his hand the evidence is on video and yet Suarez still got blamed.

What frustrates me even more is that some LFC fans condemned him too.

Lets not confuse the words "fans" with "@ssholes"

[Kenny Kan]

Good article here on why Suarez should think twice about moving to R. Madrid. Backs up quite a bit of what Thommo and Yakka respectively have been saying about the two horse race in Spain and it's manager less club who haven't reached a  CL final since 2002.


   Due to Jose Mourinho’s desperation to escape the Madrid mad-house and be back in a competitive league, Perez hasn’t got a manager. So you don’t even know if the coach you’ll be playing for wants you. Ask Michael Owen how that panned out.

As for Real’s self-proclaimed status as the biggest club in the world, they haven’t appeared in a Champions League final since 2002. And they’ve only managed to finish first in the Spanish two-horse race once in the past five years. Ask Xabi Alonso how his move of a lifetime went, having only a Spanish league and cup-winners medal to show for the four peak years of his

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ez-1924664

[eds]

To this day it still angers me when all you read is how Suarez refused to shake Evras hand.

Even though the pictures show clearly that Evra was at fault, it was Evra who refused to shake Suarez' hand and made him look the bad guy. Every article you read about Suarez, that handshake bs pops up, and people buy it.

I would very much like Suarez to stay, but I honestly wouldn't blame him if he left. The guy has been treated like sh!t. 8 game ban for racism compared to Terry's 4, 10 game ban for biting when English players have got away with the same offence. Constant critics calling him on his diving while Bale wins all awards for being the complete player.

Its all a f*cking joke.

I agree mate especially the handshake part, Evra tried to play games and lowered his hand the evidence is on video and yet Suarez still got blamed.

What frustrates me even more is that some LFC fans condemned him too.

You can also add the sheer madness and vile that infested the lemming "fan" community (see 10 pages back) when the guy mentioned he wouldn't mind playing for Real Madrid.

I have never see such vitriol shown to one of our "own" players in all my time supporting Liverpool.

Then being called a liar because of the comments he has made against the English media (for his reason in wanting to leave), and not because what he "really means" is that he is sick of not challenging for titles or playing CL regularly.

Funny that, why would he have joined in the first place. 

[Kenny Kan]

It's funny how fickle fans are eds.

[Reg]

To present the other side of the coin, ask yourselves whether Suarez's behaviour has been befitting of a Liverpool player bearing in mind the massive global publicity received on all 3 occasions? It's one thing to support a player when things go wrong on the field however the club and the fans have expectations that he doesn't bring the club into disrepute. No other player has caused so much off the field controversy nor damaging publicity for a global 'brand'.

[Benny The Noon]

Good article here on why Suarez should think twice about moving to R. Madrid. Backs up quite a bit of what Thommo and Yakka respectively have been saying about the two horse race in Spain and it's manager less club who haven't reached a  CL final since 2002.


   Due to Jose Mourinho’s desperation to escape the Madrid mad-house and be back in a competitive league, Perez hasn’t got a manager. So you don’t even know if the coach you’ll be playing for wants you. Ask Michael Owen how that panned out.

As for Real’s self-proclaimed status as the biggest club in the world, they haven’t appeared in a Champions League final since 2002. And they’ve only managed to finish first in the Spanish two-horse race once in the past five years. Ask Xabi Alonso how his move of a lifetime went, having only a Spanish league and cup-winners medal to show for the four peak years of his

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ez-1924664

I expect Xabi is pretty chuffed with his 3 medals in 4 seasons at Madrid - as opposed to what he would have won had he stayed - as well as playing regular CL football every season.

Madrid are the biggest club in the world - the best players and managers in the world want to be at Madrid at some stage in their career - both Maureen and Ronaldo are testament to that, they are just two of a long list of top players who have gone there.

[Kenny Kan]

Good article here on why Suarez should think twice about moving to R. Madrid. Backs up quite a bit of what Thommo and Yakka respectively have been saying about the two horse race in Spain and it's manager less club who haven't reached a  CL final since 2002.


   Due to Jose Mourinho’s desperation to escape the Madrid mad-house and be back in a competitive league, Perez hasn’t got a manager. So you don’t even know if the coach you’ll be playing for wants you. Ask Michael Owen how that panned out.

As for Real’s self-proclaimed status as the biggest club in the world, they haven’t appeared in a Champions League final since 2002. And they’ve only managed to finish first in the Spanish two-horse race once in the past five years. Ask Xabi Alonso how his move of a lifetime went, having only a Spanish league and cup-winners medal to show for the four peak years of his

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ez-1924664

I expect Xabi is pretty chuffed with his 3 medals in 4 seasons at Madrid - as opposed to what he would have won had he stayed - as well as playing regular CL football every season.

Madrid are the biggest club in the world - the best players and managers in the world want to be at Madrid at some stage in their career - both Maureen and Ronaldo are testament to that, they are just two of a long list of top players who have gone there.

It's a good article about the reality of the club in the last decade.

Obviously you didn't read it.