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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:15 pm

Kenny Kan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:58 am wrote:Higuain won't be coming to Liverpool.


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Postby Kenny Kan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:27 pm



Why's that?
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:30 pm

Benny The Noon

He also has 20 in 32 games for Argentina

Higuain is a outstanding striker and would score goals for fun in the prem.

To compare the La Liga to the Scottish prem shows a lack of knowledge of the game over there. Yes they have two stand outs but there are plenty of top quality players and teams in the league.


i take no notice of international stats, they just dont translate into domestic footy.
when baros was here he had a phenominal goal scoring record at international level and if i recall correctly was top scorer at euro 2004.
david healy`s the same, he scores goals for fun for northern ireland, he beat davor sukers record of 12 goals in a qualifying campaign and has scored against teams like england, sweden, denmark and germany, not to mention a hat trick against spain!!
and spanish footy is the epitome of a two horse race, last season real won it with 100 points and barca are going to do the same this year, those two clubs regularly finish 30  points ahead of the rest of the pack. there`s no doubting that there are some other decent sides in spain but those two are way ahead of the rest, if you play up front for one of those 2 sides its a turkey shoot.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:31 pm



dont think he`d suit the premier league, morientes mark II imo.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:36 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:30 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon

He also has 20 in 32 games for Argentina

Higuain is a outstanding striker and would score goals for fun in the prem.

To compare the La Liga to the Scottish prem shows a lack of knowledge of the game over there. Yes they have two stand outs but there are plenty of top quality players and teams in the league.


i take no notice of international stats, they just dont translate into domestic footy.
when baros was here he had a phenominal goal scoring record at international level and if i recall correctly was top scorer at euro 2004.
david healy`s the same, he scores goals for fun for northern ireland, he beat davor sukers record of 12 goals in a qualifying campaign and has scored against teams like england, sweden, denmark and germany, not to mention a hat trick against spain!!
and spanish footy is the epitome of a two horse race, last season real won it with 100 points and barca are going to do the same this year, those two clubs regularly finish 30  points ahead of the rest of the pack. there`s no doubting that there are some other decent sides in spain but those two are way ahead of the rest, if you play up front for one of those 2 sides its a turkey shoot.


So do you dismiss any sort of scoring record just because its from Spain ? Torres came from Spain ? Xabi ? Michu ?

That's an extremely narrow minded view - do you feel the same about players like Gomez ? Mandukic ?

Higuain has scored goals at a great rate both domestically , Europe and International ! And he is still young
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Postby Kenny Kan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:37 pm


dont think he`d suit the premier league, morientes mark II imo.


That's what I reckon too.
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Postby LFC1990 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:46 pm

Boocity » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:04 pm wrote:
LFC1990 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:48 am wrote:Id love Higuain at the club just not as a replacement for Suarez.

Sturridge will want to play central therefore we would need a bit more pace outside. Higuain for all his fantastic play and goal scoring ability isnt blessed with pace.

Ive heard us linked with Jesus Navas which would be great. We could then play

Navas       Sturridge      Coutinho

Or maybe Sturridge should just play wider and play Higuain through the middle

Sturridge      Higuain    Coutinho

If Suarez does go then a statem,ent of a signing will beed to be made. One of the quality of Navas or Higuain aswell as Eriksen. If we cash in on Suarez and I think the board knows at the moment what they will do there should be NO reason why we shouldnt be signing Eriksen


Coutinho would be more effective in the hole behind Sturridge and not out wide on the right.


Firstly it would be wide left. Secondly he played in that position for Inter
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:47 pm

Benny The Noon » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:36 am wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:30 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon

He also has 20 in 32 games for Argentina

Higuain is a outstanding striker and would score goals for fun in the prem.

To compare the La Liga to the Scottish prem shows a lack of knowledge of the game over there. Yes they have two stand outs but there are plenty of top quality players and teams in the league.


i take no notice of international stats, they just dont translate into domestic footy.
when baros was here he had a phenominal goal scoring record at international level and if i recall correctly was top scorer at euro 2004.
david healy`s the same, he scores goals for fun for northern ireland, he beat davor sukers record of 12 goals in a qualifying campaign and has scored against teams like england, sweden, denmark and germany, not to mention a hat trick against spain!!
and spanish footy is the epitome of a two horse race, last season real won it with 100 points and barca are going to do the same this year, those two clubs regularly finish 30  points ahead of the rest of the pack. there`s no doubting that there are some other decent sides in spain but those two are way ahead of the rest, if you play up front for one of those 2 sides its a turkey shoot.


So do you dismiss any sort of scoring record just because its from Spain ? Torres came from Spain ? Xabi ? Michu ?

That's an extremely narrow minded view - do you feel the same about players like Gomez ? Mandukic ?

Higuain has scored goals at a great rate both domestically , Europe and International ! And he is still young


imo you cant simply say a forward would be prolific in another country just because he scored goals for either madrid or barca.
as i said if you play up front for either of those 2 it`s a turkey shoot.
last season madrid and barca finished 30 points clear of everyone else, their goal differences were +89 and +85, the next best GD to those totals were valencia (who finished 3rd) with +15.
madrid scored 121 goals in just the league! (barca 114!) no other club got even half the madrid total. in the assists table 9 of the top 11 players played for either barca or madrid. i`d fancy myself to get into double figures even at my age with that sort of supply.
playing up front for those 2 warps a strikers stats.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:49 pm

LFC1990 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:46 am wrote:
Boocity » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:04 pm wrote:
LFC1990 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:48 am wrote:Id love Higuain at the club just not as a replacement for Suarez.

Sturridge will want to play central therefore we would need a bit more pace outside. Higuain for all his fantastic play and goal scoring ability isnt blessed with pace.

Ive heard us linked with Jesus Navas which would be great. We could then play

Navas       Sturridge      Coutinho

Or maybe Sturridge should just play wider and play Higuain through the middle

Sturridge      Higuain    Coutinho

If Suarez does go then a statem,ent of a signing will beed to be made. One of the quality of Navas or Higuain aswell as Eriksen. If we cash in on Suarez and I think the board knows at the moment what they will do there should be NO reason why we shouldnt be signing Eriksen


Coutinho would be more effective in the hole behind Sturridge and not out wide on the right.


Firstly it would be wide left. Secondly he played in that position for Inter


coutinho was ordinary for inter, i think it`s a waste of talent playing coutinho out wide, he`s the jewel in our crown, our team should be built around him imo.
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Postby LFC1990 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:51 pm

Coutinho was not ordinary at inter. If that was the case you would have to question why we bought him
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:00 pm

LFC1990 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:51 am wrote:Coutinho was not ordinary at inter. If that was the case you would have to question why we bought him


he was ordinary at inter, they even loaned him out for half a season to espanyol to see if that would kick start his career.
we bought him because of his potential, coming through the ranks at vasco he was being compared to ronaldinho but when he went to italy his career stalled.
what inter didnt take into account was that he was only 18 when he went there, it`s a big ask to expect someone to be a superstar at 18/19 no matter how good they are, especially on a different continent.
they sold him for £8m mate, do you think if they thought he was going to be a superstar they would sold him for that? or at all?
inter`s fans are doing their nut over coutinho now, they are calling the management every name under the sun for selling the little genius.
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Postby damjan193 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:04 pm

Navas is set for Man City guys. Don't even think about Higuain, why would he want to come here? I think our most realistic targets are the likes of Benteke, but I agree with the posters that say we should go for a wide player, since we have Sturridge down the middle. For starters, Muriel is a good player, but hearing the reported fee now I'm not so sure(20 mill+?).
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Postby woof woof ! » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:01 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:00 pm wrote:
LFC1990 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:51 am wrote:Coutinho was not ordinary at inter. If that was the case you would have to question why we bought him


he was ordinary at inter, they even loaned him out for half a season to espanyol to see if that would kick start his career.
we bought him because of his potential, coming through the ranks at vasco he was being compared to ronaldinho but when he went to italy his career stalled.
what inter didnt take into account was that he was only 18 when he went there, it`s a big ask to expect someone to be a superstar at 18/19 no matter how good they are, especially on a different continent.
they sold him for £8m mate, do you think if they thought he was going to be a superstar they would sold him for that? or at all?
inter`s fans are doing their nut over coutinho now, they are calling the management every name under the sun for selling the little genius.


From what I've read, Inter signed him when he was just 16 because they recognised his massive potential. Due to regulations he only moved to Inter when aged 18.

Leading lights at Inter were stunned by his ability and their chairman described him as the "future of Inter". He was allowed to go out on loan to gain more first team experience. Subsequent to his return concerns regarding his susceptibility to injury and thoughts that "he didn't fit the team plan" moved them to take a quick profit.

No doubt the lad has incredible ability but over the last three seasons he's been sidelined for around five to six months due to a variety if injuries, maybe we should bear that in mind before, as has been suggested, we "build the team around him"

In the meantime let's f'king sign Eriksen   :buttrock

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Sh'it just realised this is the Suarez thread !!!

Note to self and others, "Continue Coutinho chat in Coutinho thread"   :)
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:09 pm

damjan193 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:04 pm wrote:Navas is set for Man City guys. Don't even think about Higuain, why would he want to come here? I think our most realistic targets are the likes of Benteke, but I agree with the posters that say we should go for a wide player, since we have Sturridge down the middle. For starters, Muriel is a good player, but hearing the reported fee now I'm not so sure(20 mill+?).


the italian football expert on talksport (the same fella who said coutinho would be a star in the prem) reckons this muriel is in the same bracket as coutinho if not even higher, he reckons he`s going to be up there with messi and ronaldo in a couple of years.
i wouldnt care if we spent the entire suarez fee on someone like that, i`d rather see it go on genuine potential (even if it didnt work out) than frittered away on a handful of squad players who contribute little to the overall strength of the first XI.
the teams we are competing against in this country are already a long way ahead of us and this summer they will be bringing in some big names which will widen the gap even further, we arent going to catch (and overtake) them without signing some top players ourselves, obviously we cant afford the £50m-£80m when these star names are in their mid 20`s so we have got to gamble and try to buy them when they are 21/22 like this muriel.
obviously every transfer is a gamble and it`s not set in stone that this lad will develop into one of the worlds best players, but imo signing top players on their way up is the only chance we have catching the teams above us, if we are not even going to go down that road then as a club we really are yesterdays men.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:20 pm

woof woof ! » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:01 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:00 pm wrote:
LFC1990 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:51 am wrote:Coutinho was not ordinary at inter. If that was the case you would have to question why we bought him


he was ordinary at inter, they even loaned him out for half a season to espanyol to see if that would kick start his career.
we bought him because of his potential, coming through the ranks at vasco he was being compared to ronaldinho but when he went to italy his career stalled.
what inter didnt take into account was that he was only 18 when he went there, it`s a big ask to expect someone to be a superstar at 18/19 no matter how good they are, especially on a different continent.
they sold him for £8m mate, do you think if they thought he was going to be a superstar they would sold him for that? or at all?
inter`s fans are doing their nut over coutinho now, they are calling the management every name under the sun for selling the little genius.


From what I've read, Inter signed him when he was just 16 because they recognised his massive potential. Due to regulations he only moved to Inter when aged 18.

Leading lights at Inter were stunned by his ability and their chairman described him as the "future of Inter". He was allowed to go out on loan to gain more first team experience. Subsequent to his return concerns regarding his susceptibility to injury and thoughts that "he didn't fit the team plan" moved them to take a quick profit.

No doubt the lad has incredible ability but over the last three seasons he's been sidelined for around five to six months due to a variety if injuries, maybe we should bear that in mind before, as has been suggested, we "build the team around him"

In the meantime let's f'king sign Eriksen   :buttrock

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Sh'it just realised this is the Suarez thread !!!

Note to self and others, "Continue Coutinho chat in Coutinho thread"   :)


if they genuinely thought coutinho was going to be a world beater they wouldnt have sold him over a few injuries, it`s not like he`s done his ACL or anything.
gerrard was as injury prone as anyone early on his career but we wouldnt have dreamed of selling him.
he wasnt setting the world alight for inter but a lot of their fans put that down to the players around him, reading a few of their forums they blame their aging team, they reckon the players werent making runs and giving coutinho options.
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