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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 10, 2012 11:42 pm

I think in the long run the acquisition of Jordan Henderson will prove to be a very shrewd piece of business.
I have no doubt whatsoever that if given the time and patience by supporters he will become a fantastic
midfielder,and Liverpool and to a large extent  Dalglish will reap the rewards .

Lets not forget this kid forced his way into the Sunderland team at 19 and took Cattermole's central midfield
berth and was that impressive he was voted young player of the year by fans in his debut season .

I am expecting big things next season from Jordan Brian Henderson .
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Postby red till i die!! » Fri May 11, 2012 12:26 am

i wouldnt write him off but i wouldnt sing his praises either.
mixed bag from him over the season and to be fair he has only impressed in literally 4-5 games.
ive no doubts he only played so much due to other injuries but he's no stranger to the league and should have coped better.
lets hope he works on his confidence over the summer and can be more influential in games next season.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 11, 2012 12:36 am

red till i die!! » Thu May 10, 2012 11:26 pm wrote:i wouldnt write him off but i wouldnt sing his praises either.
mixed bag from him over the season and to be fair he has only impressed in literally 4-5 games.
ive no doubts he only played so much due to other injuries but he's no stranger to the league and should have coped better.
lets hope he works on his confidence over the summer and can be more influential in games next season.



With all due respect to Sunderland ,playing for a club as huge as Liverpool brings an anxiety few could only
imagine ,I mean even the likes of Morientes and seasoned football nomads such as Robbie Keane have all
froze at the expectation. 

I think the lad has shown tantalizing glimpses of genuine talent when he's been used centrally and with
a partner equally adept with a ball .
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Postby heimdall » Fri May 11, 2012 1:20 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 10, 2012 10:42 pm wrote:I think in the long run the acquisition of Jordan Henderson will prove to be a very shrewd piece of business.
I have no doubt whatsoever that if given the time and patience by supporters he will become a fantastic
midfielder,and Liverpool and to a large extent  Dalglish will reap the rewards .

Lets not forget this kid forced his way into the Sunderland team at 19 and took Cattermole's central midfield
berth and was that impressive he was voted young player of the year by fans in his debut season .

I am expecting big things next season from Jordan Brian Henderson .


The emphasis beign central midfield which is where he should be playing, NOT right wing as kenny has been doing all season. I think in central midfield he will take over Stevie's role but if Kenny persist with playing him right wing then he'll fade away to nothing which will be a shame.
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Postby heimdall » Fri May 11, 2012 1:23 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 10, 2012 11:36 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Thu May 10, 2012 11:26 pm wrote:i wouldnt write him off but i wouldnt sing his praises either.
mixed bag from him over the season and to be fair he has only impressed in literally 4-5 games.
ive no doubts he only played so much due to other injuries but he's no stranger to the league and should have coped better.
lets hope he works on his confidence over the summer and can be more influential in games next season.



With all due respect to Sunderland ,playing for a club as huge as Liverpool brings an anxiety few could only
imagine ,I mean even the likes of Morientes and seasoned football nomads such as Robbie Keane have all
froze at the expectation. 

I think the lad has shown tantalizing glimpses of genuine talent when he's been used centrally and with
a partner equally adept with a ball .


that must make players like Ashley Young superhuman then, to hit the ground running at arguably an even bigger club. Come to think of it why is it that most Manure signings seem to be able to play from day one whilst ours need at least a season to adjust? I'm genuinly curious about that.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri May 11, 2012 1:28 pm

heimdall » Fri May 11, 2012 12:23 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 10, 2012 11:36 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Thu May 10, 2012 11:26 pm wrote:i wouldnt write him off but i wouldnt sing his praises either.
mixed bag from him over the season and to be fair he has only impressed in literally 4-5 games.
ive no doubts he only played so much due to other injuries but he's no stranger to the league and should have coped better.
lets hope he works on his confidence over the summer and can be more influential in games next season.



With all due respect to Sunderland ,playing for a club as huge as Liverpool brings an anxiety few could only
imagine ,I mean even the likes of Morientes and seasoned football nomads such as Robbie Keane have all
froze at the expectation. 

I think the lad has shown tantalizing glimpses of genuine talent when he's been used centrally and with
a partner equally adept with a ball .


that must make players like Ashley Young superhuman then, to hit the ground running at arguably an even bigger club. Come to think of it why is it that most Manure signings seem to be able to play from day one whilst ours need at least a season to adjust? I'm genuinly curious about that.


Ashley Young: "hit the ground running..."
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri May 11, 2012 1:35 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 10, 2012 11:36 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Thu May 10, 2012 11:26 pm wrote:i wouldnt write him off but i wouldnt sing his praises either.
mixed bag from him over the season and to be fair he has only impressed in literally 4-5 games.
ive no doubts he only played so much due to other injuries but he's no stranger to the league and should have coped better.
lets hope he works on his confidence over the summer and can be more influential in games next season.



With all due respect to Sunderland ,playing for a club as huge as Liverpool brings an anxiety few could only
imagine ,I mean even the likes of Morientes and seasoned football nomads such as Robbie Keane have all
froze at the expectation. 

I think the lad has shown tantalizing glimpses of genuine talent when he's been used centrally and with
a partner equally adept with a ball .

Morientes was past his best when he came here and keane was, for the large part, victim to Rafa's behind the scenes political games. Im sure Henderson will come good...but that's not he point. You pay 20 million for the finished article, not a youthful hopeful
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 11, 2012 2:50 pm

7_Kewell » Fri May 11, 2012 12:35 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 10, 2012 11:36 pm wrote:With all due respect to Sunderland ,playing for a club as huge as Liverpool brings an anxiety few could only
imagine ,I mean even the likes of Morientes and seasoned football nomads such as Robbie Keane have all
froze at the expectation. 

I think the lad has shown tantalizing glimpses of genuine talent when he's been used centrally and with
a partner equally adept with a ball .

Morientes was past his best when he came here and keane was, for the large part, victim to Rafa's behind the scenes political games. Im sure Henderson will come good...but that's not he point. You pay 20 million for the finished article, not a youthful hopeful


I believe Rafa just wanted to win games ,I don't believe he harboured any latent ambition for a  career in politics  ??? . it seems this fabled myth
that entails Benitez was indeed a disreputable individual who acted unscrupulously in order to make his position at the club more tenable loves
to resurface every time people need to wield a stick to beat him with .

As for Keane he was a proven striker and yet received far less abuse and far more patience than Carroll ,and yet his overall contribution was if
I was to be truly honest bereft of any quality, let alone the goals Aldridge believed he would slot  :oh:

Jordan Henderson will flourish next season ,because the fans will give him the time needed without suffering the abuse and jeering Lucas endured .
Its that simple ,Its not a case of the "Emperors New Clothes " this lad really can play as is the case with Carroll .
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 11, 2012 3:07 pm

heimdall » Fri May 11, 2012 12:23 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 10, 2012 11:36 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Thu May 10, 2012 11:26 pm wrote:i wouldnt write him off but i wouldnt sing his praises either.
mixed bag from him over the season and to be fair he has only impressed in literally 4-5 games.
ive no doubts he only played so much due to other injuries but he's no stranger to the league and should have coped better.
lets hope he works on his confidence over the summer and can be more influential in games next season.



With all due respect to Sunderland ,playing for a club as huge as Liverpool brings an anxiety few could only
imagine ,I mean even the likes of Morientes and seasoned football nomads such as Robbie Keane have all
froze at the expectation. 

I think the lad has shown tantalizing glimpses of genuine talent when he's been used centrally and with
a partner equally adept with a ball .


that must make players like Ashley Young superhuman then, to hit the ground running at arguably an even bigger club. Come to think of it why is it that most Manure signings seem to be able to play from day one whilst ours need at least a season to adjust? I'm genuinly curious about that.


The comparisons you choose to  prove your point really are bordering on the ridiculous,Ashley Young is 26 yrs of age and with four years under his
belt at Villa that makes him practically a seasoned pro . Henderson is 21 with only two seasons in the Sunderland first team ,I guarantee this lad
at the closing of his career will have won  more trophies than Ashley fucking Young  ???

Another small point I would like to add ,is your peculiar penchant for extolling the virtues of those that reside at The Theatre Of Queens. 
Surely your offerings would be better received on Red Cafe ?
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri May 11, 2012 4:47 pm

Rafa was a wanabe politician all through his time here and the Robbie keane saga was the culmination of his wranglings with Parry.

Then there was his constant juxpositioning with other jobs to improve his contract and position...it was only a pity he folded like a sheet when it came to playing mind games to people who actually mattered, FACT.
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Postby heimdall » Fri May 11, 2012 4:48 pm

quote="heimdall » Fri May 11, 2012 12:23 pm"]
RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 10, 2012 11:36 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Thu May 10, 2012 11:26 pm wrote:With all due respect to Sunderland ,playing for a club as huge as Liverpool brings an anxiety few could only
imagine ,I mean even the likes of Morientes and seasoned football nomads such as Robbie Keane have all
froze at the expectation. 

I think the lad has shown tantalizing glimpses of genuine talent when he's been used centrally and with
a partner equally adept with a ball .


that must make players like Ashley Young superhuman then, to hit the ground running at arguably an even bigger club. Come to think of it why is it that most Manure signings seem to be able to play from day one whilst ours need at least a season to adjust? I'm genuinly curious about that.


The comparisons you choose to  prove your point really are bordering on the ridiculous,Ashley Young is 26 yrs of age and with four years under his
belt at Villa that makes him practically a seasoned pro . Henderson is 21 with only two seasons in the Sunderland first team ,I guarantee this lad
at the closing of his career will have won  more trophies than Ashley fucking Young  ???

Another small point I would like to add ,is your peculiar penchant for extolling the virtues of those that reside at The Theatre Of Queens. 
Surely your offerings would be better received on Red Cafe ?[/quote]

Oh don't get me wrong RBG I hate Man Utd as much as the next Liverpool fan but I'm not so close minded as to not appreciate their achievements and uncanny ability to get players playing from day one, even players from the mighty Aston Villa??? which some might consider a slightly smaller club than Manure.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 11, 2012 5:13 pm

7_Kewell » Fri May 11, 2012 3:47 pm wrote:Rafa was a wanabe politician all through his time here and the Robbie keane saga was the culmination of his wranglings with Parry.

Then there was his constant juxpositioning with other jobs to improve his contract and position...it was only a pity he folded like a sheet when it came to playing mind games to people who actually mattered, FACT.


My stance on Rafa is no secret ,I loved the man and consider him a legend who reminded this club of its once glorious European legacy .
Its also no secret the man gave us the first inklings of just how heinous our American owners could be through hints that in all honesty
cost the man his job .

Rafa Benitez is a vast part of our glorious past ,but he is when all is said and done the past . Its time to grasp the nettle and start believing
in the current manager ,and get back to discussing Jordan Henderson and the integral role he could hold in our midfield in the future .
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri May 11, 2012 5:22 pm

"could hold"??

He cost us 20 million quid, he SHOULD be a vital cog, not a shadow of a player who might be good.

You talk like he was a free transfer, not a poor piece of business
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 11, 2012 6:11 pm

heimdall » Fri May 11, 2012 3:48 pm wrote:Oh don't get me wrong RBG I hate Man Utd as much as the next Liverpool fan but I'm not so close minded as to not appreciate their achievements and uncanny ability to get players playing from day one, even players from the mighty Aston Villa??? which some might consider a slightly smaller club than Manure.


That's where we differ then ,because my deep seated loathing of the Mancs and the contemptible way Taggart has collated most of their league titles
and trophies over these increasingly painful years would seem to make us polar opposites .. Its possibly the only opinion I have that is not negotiable
well that and everything else that is set in stone .
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri May 11, 2012 6:12 pm

He cost us 16 mil and was bought for more than just now. He was bought knowing he still has to develop into a big club.

There is no set price where a player should be the finished article. He is only 21 - plenty of time yet.

Lucas needed a few years to develop and people didn't have the paitence to wait for him so I'm not surprised they won't wait for Henderson.
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