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Reg » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:11 am wrote:Rafa's biggest achievement would be to bring both sets of fans closer together. He has the character and respect to do that. The animosity that's grown over the years and exacerbated after that terrible game at the beginning of last season and which Ancelotti did nothing to address (head in the sand) means that only a special person can be effective in returning both clubs to a normal relationship. I welcome it. Rafa is the man.  Feck the football, they'll always be sh!te.

Who want a normal relationship with them?? It is part of the fun to hate your neighbors,compete with them and enjoy the rivalry. It is not like their is a war going on between the two and "Rafa" the saviour will unite both so we hold hands and sing kumbaya.

Rafa won't do much their anyway, regardless of how much he spends. He will eventually get sacked like the rest.

Reg » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:11 am wrote:Rafa's biggest achievement would be to bring both sets of fans closer together. He has the character and respect to do that. The animosity that's grown over the years and exacerbated after that terrible game at the beginning of last season and which Ancelotti did nothing to address (head in the sand) means that only a special person can be effective in returning both clubs to a normal relationship. I welcome it. Rafa is the man.  Feck the football, they'll always be sh!te.

Bring the fans closer together ?!? Are you taking the ***** !!

Have you ever been to a derby over the past 20 years ? Been to the city in the last 20 years.

Christ you must be drunk

Rafa has probably got tens of millions in the bank, him and his family could live anywhere - Florida, Southern California, Switzerland, South of France etc but they choose to live on Merseyside. They obviously fell in love with this City and the people in it. You can see that in that clip where he gets teary-eyed at the Hillsborough memorial service, that wasn’t someone faking it.
As I said I can’t hate on Rafa, I obviously want us to do better than Everton but if Everton have a bit of relative success under him then so be it.

Reg » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:11 am wrote:Rafa's biggest achievement would be to bring both sets of fans closer together. He has the character and respect to do that. The animosity that's grown over the years and exacerbated after that terrible game at the beginning of last season and which Ancelotti did nothing to address (head in the sand) means that only a special person can be effective in returning both clubs to a normal relationship. I welcome it. Rafa is the man.  Feck the football, they'll always be sh!te.

Good post Reg. Rafa going there may take some of the heat out of the rivalry which has gotten out of hand in recent years.
Liverpool v Everton was traditionally seen as the friendly derby where fans walked to the game together and didn’t need to be segregated in the stands.
Back in the day a lot of fans who lived locally went to watch both clubs. My dad watched Everton in the 50’s when Liverpool where playing away, Bill Kenwright said when he spoke at the Hillsborough Memorial Service that he used to do the opposite, when Everton were playing away he’d go and stand on the Kop. During the 80’s when both clubs had success whenever we met them at Wembley both sets of fans would chant “merseyside”. Scousers are very clannish, the footy rivalry may get out of hand on occasion but we’ll still back each other up.

Blimey some still live in the past

No Lallana, you're just pig ignorant. We should have learnt after Heysel and Hillsborough that there are things far more important than tribalism. That the city of Liverpool is greater than the 2 sides, the people are more important that football. Liverpool and Everton fans are more more important than petty rivalry. Yes we can enjoy our differences and desire to beat each other but it's gone too far, the bitterness is over the top. I used to go to the Everton game on a friday night in the old days then the Liverpool game the next day. We always had a good ol'time on the Gladys Street end laughing and joking and taking the *****. Never had a single problem. Time for folks to remember that how we treat each other is THE most important thing in life.

And stop asking your f'king stupid questions about when I was last in the city, I was going to the game probably before you were born.

Reg » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:05 am wrote:No Lallana, you're just pig ignorant. We should have learnt after Heysel and Hillsborough that there are things far more important than tribalism. That the city of Liverpool is greater than the 2 sides, the people are more important that football. Liverpool and Everton fans are more more important than petty rivalry. Yes we can enjoy our differences and desire to beat each other but it's gone too far, the bitterness is over the top. I used to go to the Everton game on a friday night in the old days then the Liverpool game the next day. We always had a good ol'time on the Gladys Street end laughing and joking and taking the *****. Never had a single problem. Time for folks to remember that how we treat each other is THE most important thing in life.

And stop asking your f'king stupid questions about when I was last in the city, I was going to the game probably before you were born.

Then you are living in the past and have been to a game over the past 20 years


Regardless of what used to happen there is zero chance of it ever going back to how it used to be - get yourself into modern football , tribalism is more than alive

That’s what happens when they have 25 years of doing nothing , the bitterness and hate grows beyond any repair


And I have been going for nearly 40 years and lived through it all - Im just just delusional to harp back to yesterday years

That's what blinds you, you don't believe things can improve, and Rafa is the catalyst who could start the process but he'd have to compete with folks like you who just accept the downward spiral.

As I said living in a fantasy world


Is that the same Rafa who called Everton a small club

And the same Rafa who was constantly making stabs at them that the bitters responded too and escalated


They hate him there and they are going to hate him when he becomes there manager regardless of what he does

You have Everton fans stating they won’t go near the club if he is manager - go and read the rest of social media and see exactly how they feel about Rafa

The level of fume is funny as feck and it’s the best thing about the appointment.

Reg » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:05 am wrote:No Lallana, you're just pig ignorant. We should have learnt after Heysel and Hillsborough that there are things far more important than tribalism. That the city of Liverpool is greater than the 2 sides, the people are more important that football. Liverpool and Everton fans are more more important than petty rivalry. Yes we can enjoy our differences and desire to beat each other but it's gone too far, the bitterness is over the top. I used to go to the Everton game on a friday night in the old days then the Liverpool game the next day. We always had a good ol'time on the Gladys Street end laughing and joking and taking the *****. Never had a single problem. Time for folks to remember that how we treat each other is THE most important thing in life.

And stop asking your f'king stupid questions about when I was last in the city, I was going to the game probably before you were born.

Amen Reg, the scouse identify is stronger than the footballing one, it’s like a family, some nasty sh1t may get said in the heat of the moment but it’s mostly banter gone too far. If reds and blues couldn’t stand each other to the extent Benny is trying to portray then Liverpudlian’s and Evertonian’s wouldn’t mix, no Liverpool fan would have any Evertonian mates and no Evertonian would have any Liverpudlian mates when the exact opposite is true, you will not find a single person who grew up in this city, not one, who hasn’t got a mate who supports the other club.
As I said things may get out of hand once in a while but let’s not try to make Liverpool out to be Belfast with peace walls and sh1t.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:53 am wrote:

Reg » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:05 am wrote:No Lallana, you're just pig ignorant. We should have learnt after Heysel and Hillsborough that there are things far more important than tribalism. That the city of Liverpool is greater than the 2 sides, the people are more important that football. Liverpool and Everton fans are more more important than petty rivalry. Yes we can enjoy our differences and desire to beat each other but it's gone too far, the bitterness is over the top. I used to go to the Everton game on a friday night in the old days then the Liverpool game the next day. We always had a good ol'time on the Gladys Street end laughing and joking and taking the *****. Never had a single problem. Time for folks to remember that how we treat each other is THE most important thing in life.

And stop asking your f'king stupid questions about when I was last in the city, I was going to the game probably before you were born.

Amen Reg, the scouse identify is stronger than the footballing one, it’s like a family, some nasty sh1t may get said in the heat of the moment but it’s mostly banter gone too far. If reds and blues couldn’t stand each other to the extent Benny is trying to portray then Liverpudlian’s and Evertonian’s wouldn’t mix, no Liverpool fan would have any Evertonian mates and no Evertonian would have any Liverpudlian mates when the exact opposite is true, you will not find a single person who grew up in this city, not one, who hasn’t got a mate who supports the other club.
As I said things may get out of hand once in a while but let’s not try to make Liverpool out to be Belfast with peace walls and sh1t.

I have family and friends who support Everton - we just don’t talk football anymore because it gets heated and you will find that’s the same across the city these days


These halcyon days of gone by where opposite fans used to go to games etc are long gone - the way modern football went has changed that and the rivalry has changed

I stood next to Everton fans at both the 86 and 89 Cup final -that sort of stuff will never happen again , I have had mates that have been attacked and had ***** thrown at them by younger bitter fans. Welcome to modern society and how football is tribal


Liverpool fans and Everton fans work together , live together , socialise together but football talk between them has changed dramatically over the years and as shown Rafa himself was fully involved in the middle of it all as well

WTF has this bollux got to do it Rumour Of The Day?

If anybody honestly hopes that Rafa can bring the fans of Liverpool and Everton back together then I think they will be seriously disappointed. Rafa is a football manager not a feckin miracle worker. Let’s face it the Everton fans have never forgiven Rafa for calling them a little club! I’ll be amazed if Rafa takes the job. Just had a quick look at Toffee Talk and a lot of their fans would welcome Rafa which surprised me.  Everton fans are still incredibly bitter about Heysel and if I take my red hat off for just one minute I might just have a degree of sympathy. However I am far more concerned about the 49 people that died rather than the remote possibility of Everton winning the European Cup !!

The bitterness is so rife these days that football is off the agenda at family gatherings   

Memphis Depay was all set to join Liverpool from PSV in 2015, but a “confusing” approach saw the deal fall through. Now, the Dutch forward is available on a free.

Depay was attracting widespread attention, following a campaign that saw him score 28 goals and set up another eight in 40 games for PSV Eindhoven in 2014/15, when the Reds emerged as leading candidates.


The Netherlands international was poised to leave his home nation, and Brendan Rodgers praised him as a “very talented player,” confirming that Liverpool “need a goal threat for next year.”

PSV sporting director Marcel Brands – now of Everton – even described the Reds and Paris Saint-Germain as being “a step ahead of Manchester United in the race to sign Memphis.”

He ultimately signed for United in a £25 million transfer that summer, with The Athletic‘s Simon Hughes picking up the story of how Liverpool saw their “confusing” stance ruin a done deal.

Hughes explains that the club “were willing to spend £25 million plus add-ons,” and that Tottenham‘s interest in Adam Lallana would allow them to “fund some of the fee.”

A ‘Merseyside-based source’ adds that Depay would have joined Daniel Sturridge and Philippe Coutinho as “one of the highest-paid players at the club,” and that “it looked like everything was agreed.”

However, Hughes continues that an injury to Sturridge forced the Reds’ focus to switch to signing a striker, with Christian Benteke brought in as the club “asked Depay to wait.”

“Sources close to the player suggest Liverpool’s approach was confusing,” Hughes writes, adding “he was asked to wait but nobody told him how long.”

That wait paved the way for United to swoop, and though his spell at Old Trafford was a disappointment, he has now revived his career over four years with Lyon – playing, in a blow to his former suitor, as a centre-forward.

Depay scored 22 and assisted 12 in 40 games last season, and overall with the French club he has struck 76 times and teed up a further 55 goals in 178 appearances.

Now, he is into the final fortnight of his contract with Lyon, and though Barcelona manager Ronald Koeman has insisted this week that a deal is “almost there,” it is a situation Liverpool should be monitoring again.

Koeman told reporters on Wednesday that “it’s not signed yet,” and perhaps this time around it could be the Reds that steal a march on their rivals.

It is clear that Jurgen Klopp would hope to add to his attacking ranks this summer, and a proven, versatile forward such as Depay would complement the likes of Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane, Diogo Jota and Roberto Firmino well.

On a free, it is surely a no-brainer, though whether Depay would be willing to join the club who messed him around six years ago is another matter entirely.

Lallana in Pyjamas » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:13 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:53 am wrote:

Reg » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:05 am wrote:No Lallana, you're just pig ignorant. We should have learnt after Heysel and Hillsborough that there are things far more important than tribalism. That the city of Liverpool is greater than the 2 sides, the people are more important that football. Liverpool and Everton fans are more more important than petty rivalry. Yes we can enjoy our differences and desire to beat each other but it's gone too far, the bitterness is over the top. I used to go to the Everton game on a friday night in the old days then the Liverpool game the next day. We always had a good ol'time on the Gladys Street end laughing and joking and taking the *****. Never had a single problem. Time for folks to remember that how we treat each other is THE most important thing in life.

And stop asking your f'king stupid questions about when I was last in the city, I was going to the game probably before you were born.

Amen Reg, the scouse identify is stronger than the footballing one, it’s like a family, some nasty sh1t may get said in the heat of the moment but it’s mostly banter gone too far. If reds and blues couldn’t stand each other to the extent Benny is trying to portray then Liverpudlian’s and Evertonian’s wouldn’t mix, no Liverpool fan would have any Evertonian mates and no Evertonian would have any Liverpudlian mates when the exact opposite is true, you will not find a single person who grew up in this city, not one, who hasn’t got a mate who supports the other club.
As I said things may get out of hand once in a while but let’s not try to make Liverpool out to be Belfast with peace walls and sh1t.

I have family and friends who support Everton - we just don’t talk football anymore because it gets heated and you will find that’s the same across the city these days


These halcyon days of gone by where opposite fans used to go to games etc are long gone - the way modern football went has changed that and the rivalry has changed

I stood next to Everton fans at both the 86 and 89 Cup final -that sort of stuff will never happen again , I have had mates that have been attacked and had ***** thrown at them by younger bitter fans. Welcome to modern society and how football is tribal


Liverpool fans and Everton fans work together , live together , socialise together but football talk between them has changed dramatically over the years and as shown Rafa himself was fully involved in the middle of it all as well

Come off it, I talk about football to my mates who are Evertonians all the time, this idea that I’m going to start fighting or fall out with lads I’ve known all my life about footy is ridiculous.