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RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:

heimdall wrote:oh lord it's like talking to toddlers sometimes. £100 million, £100 million, £100 million ffs!! You could buy most football clubs for that amount of money and we could certainly get 3 top top strikers for that amount or 2 very good strikers and a winger. It's like owning a picasso when your house is falling to pieces, you sell the fecking painting and fix your home, it's a no brainer. No player is worth £100 million.

I have met with many Norwegian fans and they are pretty much in general a likeable bunch ,who are quite knowledgeable in  a football capacity specifically in regards to Liverpool ,but you dispel completely the affable Scandinavian theory ,you are on this forum solely with the intent to provoke and bait ,your ridiculous comments are devoid of common sense ,and speaking from a personal perspective you remain a complete enigma to me

It has drawn me to the conclusion you exist purely to ensure you rattle the cages of the more shall we say  susceptible to your barbs    Anything else would simply not make sense of your inane responses

affable scandinavian theory, yeah those vikings were an affable bunch no doubt about it. 

I bet that every single scandi you've ever met has been p1ssed out of there minds, curious how that makes people affable, especially at a football match! Anyway Norwegians are the most naive bunch of idiots roaming this planet, that's why I don't live there anymore.

One last point just becuase you can't sensibly debate with me doesn't mean I'm trying to provoke you or that my points are drivel, it just means I have beaten you in debate, get over it.

bavlondon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Reg wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Reg wrote:I dont think the sponsers would be too happy either.  Ignore it.

Why would the sponsors care, are you suggesting that all the fans would immediately stop supporting Liverpool if Nando left, I though you wanted to get rid of the glory hunters anyway? 

If I have to explain why sponsers would be concerned if we sold our prime asset and photo opportunity boy then suggest you start reading some business books before posting any more.

ok but we don't get anywhere near £100 million of marketing out of him, suggest you read some marketing and business books. 

How can you judge what Fernando is worth to the club? In terms of image alone the club surely looks a more attractive proposition with a world class player like him on the book does it not? I give up. 

Who on earth would want to buy a club saddled with debt not to mention fund a stadium if the club sold all their big stars.

We just need to get through this season and we will see more money pumped into the squad im sure of it.

NewRed wrote:could i just come in here and stick up for heimdall i dont want to sell Torres to me he's a god but i have to agree with the painting/house analogy think about the state were in guys. Last week whilst looking through the teletext. I saw the announcement that the yanks are near to selling their baseball buisness for £362 million plus if Torres is sold for £100mill i think Rafa would walk thus we wouldnt have to pay him out so were winners all round with £462 mill in the bank. So bring on the new 60,000 seater stadium as was announced on Merseyside radio the digging is to start in April this year i think the deal has already been done my Red friends. Plus this would leave us some money to pay a bit of the RBS loan.

heimdall wrote:affable scandinavian theory, yeah those vikings were an affable bunch no doubt about it. 

I bet that every single scandi you've ever met has been p1ssed out of there minds, curious how that makes people affable, especially at a football match! Anyway Norwegians are the most naive bunch of idiots roaming this planet, that's why I don't live there anymore.

One last point just becuase you can't sensibly debate with me doesn't mean I'm trying to provoke you or that my points are drivel, it just means I have beaten you in debate, get over it.

I seriously doubt anyone could engage you in serious debate ,how could anyone possibly  argue against your key point the sale of Torres    just one implication involving that transaction you might want to mull over ,who benefits from the sale, given that is  our hideous owners need to feed on our money with the same gusto as Yakubu feeds on pies ...

I think in hindsight given your insightful comments and retorts   
that you just didn't fit in ,and that's why you left Norway

Oh and seen as your so curious as to the Scandinavians I made the acquaintance of ,they were if I am not mistaken all sober hence their impressive knowledge of our great club ,things have a tendency to become blurred when inebriated .

Now back to the case in question ,your inability to grasp the concept of sensible debate ,you see in the past I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt ,but recently your posts have been beneath contempt especially the Item in the don't buy the Scum thread ,were you went to great lengths to ensure all who viewed it were shocked and dismayed at the level of your ignorance ,and now your complete disregard for your fellow countrymen is quite frankly unbelievable ...

Like I stated earlier your a complete enigma to me   

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:

heimdall wrote:affable scandinavian theory, yeah those vikings were an affable bunch no doubt about it. 

I bet that every single scandi you've ever met has been p1ssed out of there minds, curious how that makes people affable, especially at a football match! Anyway Norwegians are the most naive bunch of idiots roaming this planet, that's why I don't live there anymore.

One last point just becuase you can't sensibly debate with me doesn't mean I'm trying to provoke you or that my points are drivel, it just means I have beaten you in debate, get over it.

I seriously doubt anyone could engage you in serious debate ,how could anyone possibly  argue against your key point the sale of Torres    just one implication involving that transaction you might want to mull over ,who benefits from the sale, given that is  our hideous owners need to feed on our money with the same gusto as Yakubu feeds on pies ...

I think in hindsight given your insightful comments and retorts   
that you just didn't fit in ,and that's why you left Norway

Oh and seen as your so curious as to the Scandinavians I made the acquaintance of ,they were if I am not mistaken all sober hence their impressive knowledge of our great club ,things have a tendency to become blurred when inebriated .

Now back to the case in question ,your inability to grasp the concept of sensible debate ,you see in the past I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt ,but recently your posts have been beneath contempt especially the Item in the don't buy the Scum thread ,were you went to great lengths to ensure all who viewed it were shocked and dismayed at the level of your ignorance ,and now your complete disregard for your fellow countrymen is quite frankly unbelievable ...

Like I stated earlier your a complete enigma to me   

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Listen if you want to know what offended so many and why ,just re-visit the Scum thread  I said all I was going to say on your remarks in the specified thread ,and still I am waiting to read your much anticipated response ,secondly I would quite willingly enter into a football debate ,but you my reluctant Scandinavian do not talk football let alone garnish it with any sense ,Thirdly I consider the Norwegians in your Homeland who are subject to your disparaging slurs would be  infinitely better company than you ,and lastly your an enigma or shall we say mystery because and I do stress this your opinions continually defy all logic

heimdall wrote:As for my country men being better company then me, I am certain they would be for you!

I am quite sure you are more prone to dropping names in the hat than me (means informing ), speaking personally I have never felt the need to involve the Mods in my personal disputes I consider theirs an often  thankless task ,with little reward especially considering the petty complaints they constantly deal with

As for your point I quoted above ,correct me if I am wrong but didn't I already say that ?

Oh and the definition of enigma is mystery which I again stated if you would like to read it again   

s@int wrote:I see nothing wrong in considering an offer of £100million for Torres ....... accepting an offer is something QUITE DIFFERENT! While we still have any ambitions left we should always try to hold onto our best players, and selling Torres would send the wrong message out both to the rest of the team and the owners that we are willing to accept that we are happy to be a top four challenger rather than a title challenger.

£100Million is an indecent amount of money and probably much more than Torres is actually worth both as a player and asset, but Liverpool is a football club whose only objective should be trophies and a great team, not money and a great bank balance. 

TBH I think the present obsession with money has gone too far, we can apparently no longer challenge for trophies unless we spend £100's of millions on new players, while I would prefer to get the best out of the players we do have, rather than buy some new underachieving "superstars". Concentrate less on moaning about lack of funds and more on how to get the TEAM performing to its potential and I think we would see greater success than we have over the last few years of profligate spending.

FYI Goggles this is called debating rather than what you do, which I can only politely call character assassination for unclear motives.

S@int I respect your opinion and I am clearly in the minority on this issue so I shall say no more about it. 

heimdall wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Reg wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Reg wrote:I dont think the sponsers would be too happy either.  Ignore it.

Why would the sponsors care, are you suggesting that all the fans would immediately stop supporting Liverpool if Nando left, I though you wanted to get rid of the glory hunters anyway? 

If I have to explain why sponsers would be concerned if we sold our prime asset and photo opportunity boy then suggest you start reading some business books before posting any more.

ok but we don't get anywhere near £100 million of marketing out of him, suggest you read some marketing and business books. 

How can you judge what Fernando is worth to the club? In terms of image alone the club surely looks a more attractive proposition with a world class player like him on the book does it not? I give up. 

Who on earth would want to buy a club saddled with debt not to mention fund a stadium if the club sold all their big stars.

We just need to get through this season and we will see more money pumped into the squad im sure of it.

hang on you can't have it both ways here chum. We can't loose Torres and still be in debt can we? That's the fecking point I'm trying to make!!! £100 million would go a long long way to clearing our debts OR a long way to buying the 3 top notch players we desperately need to have a real satb at the title. I say it again you guys have no concept of how much money this is and how it could turn LFC around, £100 million is an insane amount of money for a player and there is no way Torres is worth that much to us. To Real Madrid or Manure with their slick marketing departments maybe, but never in a million years is he worth that much to us.