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Postby damjan193 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:16 am

It's because of David Luiz's Indian voodoo magic

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Postby damjan193 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:07 am

"Torres : I will score a goal against Liverpool to thank all chelsea fans who support me."  What a guy, always cares about the fans...
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Postby metalhead » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:16 am

damjan193 wrote:"Torres : I will score a goal against Liverpool to thank all chelsea fans who support me."  What a guy, always cares about the fans...

:laugh:  :laugh:

what a little pr!ck
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Postby Aussie Style » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:29 am

Spain striker expects to be on the receiving end of plenty of abuse when the Reds visit Stamford Bridge on Sunday, but insists he holds no grudges ahead of the "very special game"

Fernando Torres insists Liverpool fans do not know the full story behind his transfer to Chelsea.

The Spain international is a less than popular figure on Merseyside due to his £50 million switch to London in the January transfer window.

Torres was roundly booed during Spain's defeat to England at Wembley last week and he expects it to be in the firing line from the away fans at Stamford Bridge on Sunday, but says that his former club's supporters will always be special to him.

"I've no doubt [the abuse] will be a lot worse," Torres told Marca.

"The Liverpool fans have only paid attention to what the club made them see and they don't know the true story of my transfer to Chelsea.

"That's why I don’t hold any grudges; they will always be special to me."

Torres became a Kop idol for his lethal form during his first three seasons with the club, scoring 56 Premier League goals in just 79 appearances while playing under Rafael Benitez.

But when the Spanish manager was replaced by Roy Hodgson, his form dipped and it has not fully recovered since his move to the capital.

"Nobody has understood me like Rafa Benitez," he said.

"I owe him a lot. He is a fantastic coach. His teams go out on to the pitch with just one aim: to compete.

"The sensation they transmit is that, with less [of a] budget, they can beat the biggest teams."

The 27-year-old will be hoping to show something like his best form when Liverpool visit Stamford Bridge on Sunday, with the player acknowledging the importance of the fixture as Chelsea look to stay in the title race.

Torres' former club have picked up only one win in their last four Premier League matches, but the forward believes that they are heading in the right direction.

"[Liverpool] are a team in transition and the change doesn't come overnight," he said.

"They need time. They have made a significant investment and, like in any project, they need to establish themselves.

"We can't allow ourselves the luxury of losing any more points. It will be a very special game and atmosphere, too, without a doubt."

With only two Premier League goals this season, Torres has not caught fire in a Chelsea shirt yet but dismissed concerns that he was feeling the pressure of his transfer fee and insisted he remains optimistic about his future.

"You place the responsibility on yourself, it's something you can't control," he said.

"Also, how much I cost doesn't depend on me, it's the clubs who decide what they are willing to pay and it is they who come to an agreement.

"I have been lucky enough to experience many wonderful situations over the last 10 years, but I am confident the best is yet to come."
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Postby Greavesie » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:36 am

damjan193 wrote:"Torres : I will score a goal against Liverpool to thank all chelsea fans who support me."  What a guy, always cares about the fans...

whered you read this?

I'll be a little peeved if he puts one passed us and celebrates
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Postby Dundalk » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:40 pm

Fernando Torres has forgotten 'true story' of his Liverpool FC exit

by Richard Buxton, Published Fri 18 Nov 2011 21:06, Last updated: 2011-11-18

Fernando Torres claims Liverpool fans "don't know the true story" about his Chelsea switch.

Invariably it is a hollow threat from the one-time Kop sweetheart, no doubt in a bid to gain the psychological edge ahead of Sunday's meeting between the sides at Stamford Bridge.

But if Torres does intend to reveal that 'true story', he may wish to retrace his steps for the purposes of accuracy - because he will emerge from the debacle with little to no credit.

His defection to West London flew in the face of several years' gushing PR about how he would never play for another English club, such was his supposed affinity with Merseyside.

Fast approaching 27, it was unlikely that a player of Torres' proven calibre would languish at a club which had been seemingly going nowhere since his arrival almost four years prior.

Yet the behaviour of the collective known as 'Brand Torres' during those final 12 months does not vindicate nor exonerate his decision to leave Anfield, nor the manner in which it transpired.

It was well known, behind the scenes, that Torres had been threatening to leave Liverpool as early as late 2009 when it was clear that Champions League qualification appeared unlikely.

His management company - Bahia Internacional - were all too aware of their prize asset's diminishing marketing potential in remaining aboard the club's erstwhile sinking ship.

An injury sustained during a Europa League tie with Benfica in April 2010 could not have been more ill-timed, with the start of the World Cup finals just two months around the corner.

With the World Cup fast approaching, Torres' outstanding commercial deals with the likes of Nike, Pepsi and El Corte Ingles, the Spanish-based department store, were ready for renewal.

Such was the pressure on Bahia from those sponsors that both they and Torres were so intent on catapulting him back into the spotlight in South Africa that he chose to go under the knife for a second time in four months to fix a knee problem - foresaking Liverpool's season.

The player himself admitted he willingly suppressed that same knee problem for 85 minutes of the Benfica game, having sustained the injury in the second minute of the quarter final clash.

It was not the first time he had played through the pain barrier against Manchester United just six months prior after damaging an adductor muscle while on international duty with Spain.

But the days of placing club before country had long been vanquished as the actions of Liverpool's top scorer saw them fall even further behind in the race for a top four finish.

Rafael Benitez's withdrawal of his star striker during a 1-1 draw with Birmingham, much to Steven Gerrard's perplexion, was designed to prevent this procedure.

The former Kop boss is alleged to have promised his fellow Spaniard that he would withdraw him after two-thirds of each game until the end of the season in a bid to preseve his fitness.

Benitez is also said to have suggested Torres would benefit from his first summer off in three years by missing the World Cup thus allowing him to prolong his career at the highest level.

This suggestion was allegedly refuted and, contrary to reports at the time, Antonio Sanz -Torres' agent at Bahia - is understood to have defied the volcanic cloud hanging over Europe by driving his client to Barcelona to be treated by his trusted surgeon, Dr Ramon Cugat.

Ultimately, the loss of Torres' fire power cost Benitez his job after years of dodging and delaying the inevitable under Tom Hicks and George Gillett's parsimonious regime.

Rather than reaffirm his commitment to the club following his compatriot's departure, as Pepe Reina did within hours of the announcement, 'El Nino' chose to step up plans for his own exit.

Roman Abramovich's appearance at Spain's World Cup semi-final win over Germany in Durban was not the smoking gun which many Liverpool supporters perceived.

La Furia Roja may have triumphed but Torres was their greatest passenger; resorting to uncharacteristic diving which resulted in the unfair dismissal of Chile's Marco Estrada.

With Chelsea's interest virtually diminished, he attempted to atone for his summer-long silence by posing with a Liverpool scarf in Spain's victorious Soccer City dressing room.

Christian Purslow, Liverpool's former managing director, safeguarded Anfield's key asset until the club was sold by brokering a deal with Torres during crisis talks in Ibiza to stay put.

He returned to Melwood, the club's training ground, sporting a tooty grin to deliver the penultimate deception to Reds fans as he continued to plot his over-running escape.

A half-season under Roy Hodgson's disastrous and short-lived tenure offered almost justification for Torres to traipse around the nation's pitches looking largely disinterested.

Goals still trickled but he was still able to turn on the style when it suited as proven by a 10-minute spell against Manchester United and, coincidentally, 87 minutes against Chelsea.

At times during those final five months as a Liverpool player, Torres' ongoing and overt desire to leave the club saw him alienate himself further from some of his team mates.

And even with Liverpool in the hands of capable owners and a manager in Kenny Dalglish - a man with whom he once had a strong level of mutual respect - Torres remained unswayed.

His timing in handing in an initially unsuccessful transfer request was designed to avenge the broken promises and general malaise suffered at the hands of Hicks and Gillett.

It underlined how far the player who breezed through Anfield's corridors in summer 2007 had fallen and was, at the cost of his morals, desperate to revive his ailing commercial image.

Liverpool may lack his fire power but their loss -and Andy Carroll's inability to live up to his  £35million billing - has not been Chelsea's gain as Torres' form has been incredibly sproadic.

They have made peace with his ill-conceived decisions while under their jurisdiction, with Dalglish repeatedly dismissing the importance of any individual player to the club.

Torres, however, remains regretful at reneging on previous pledges that Liverpool would remain his English club and continues to convince himself that he was blameless.

In time he may return to his free-scoring ways, lift the silverware which eluded him at Anfield and possibly retain his starring role in Spain's front line to expunge all doubts over his move.

A goal against Liverpool on Sunday would go some way to helping achieve this but while he remains engrossed on rewriting history, he is in danger of remaining English football's punch line.
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Postby Dalglish » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:20 am

Dundalk wrote:Fernando Torres has forgotten 'true story' of his Liverpool FC exit

by Richard Buxton, Published Fri 18 Nov 2011 21:06, Last updated: 2011-11-18

Fernando Torres claims Liverpool fans "don't know the true story" about his Chelsea switch.

Invariably it is a hollow threat from the one-time Kop sweetheart, no doubt in a bid to gain the psychological edge ahead of Sunday's meeting between the sides at Stamford Bridge.

But if Torres does intend to reveal that 'true story', he may wish to retrace his steps for the purposes of accuracy - because he will emerge from the debacle with little to no credit.

His defection to West London flew in the face of several years' gushing PR about how he would never play for another English club, such was his supposed affinity with Merseyside.

Fast approaching 27, it was unlikely that a player of Torres' proven calibre would languish at a club which had been seemingly going nowhere since his arrival almost four years prior.

Yet the behaviour of the collective known as 'Brand Torres' during those final 12 months does not vindicate nor exonerate his decision to leave Anfield, nor the manner in which it transpired.

It was well known, behind the scenes, that Torres had been threatening to leave Liverpool as early as late 2009 when it was clear that Champions League qualification appeared unlikely.

His management company - Bahia Internacional - were all too aware of their prize asset's diminishing marketing potential in remaining aboard the club's erstwhile sinking ship.

An injury sustained during a Europa League tie with Benfica in April 2010 could not have been more ill-timed, with the start of the World Cup finals just two months around the corner.

With the World Cup fast approaching, Torres' outstanding commercial deals with the likes of Nike, Pepsi and El Corte Ingles, the Spanish-based department store, were ready for renewal.

Such was the pressure on Bahia from those sponsors that both they and Torres were so intent on catapulting him back into the spotlight in South Africa that he chose to go under the knife for a second time in four months to fix a knee problem - foresaking Liverpool's season.

The player himself admitted he willingly suppressed that same knee problem for 85 minutes of the Benfica game, having sustained the injury in the second minute of the quarter final clash.

It was not the first time he had played through the pain barrier against Manchester United just six months prior after damaging an adductor muscle while on international duty with Spain.

But the days of placing club before country had long been vanquished as the actions of Liverpool's top scorer saw them fall even further behind in the race for a top four finish.

Rafael Benitez's withdrawal of his star striker during a 1-1 draw with Birmingham, much to Steven Gerrard's perplexion, was designed to prevent this procedure.

The former Kop boss is alleged to have promised his fellow Spaniard that he would withdraw him after two-thirds of each game until the end of the season in a bid to preseve his fitness.

Benitez is also said to have suggested Torres would benefit from his first summer off in three years by missing the World Cup thus allowing him to prolong his career at the highest level.

This suggestion was allegedly refuted and, contrary to reports at the time, Antonio Sanz -Torres' agent at Bahia - is understood to have defied the volcanic cloud hanging over Europe by driving his client to Barcelona to be treated by his trusted surgeon, Dr Ramon Cugat.

Ultimately, the loss of Torres' fire power cost Benitez his job after years of dodging and delaying the inevitable under Tom Hicks and George Gillett's parsimonious regime.

Rather than reaffirm his commitment to the club following his compatriot's departure, as Pepe Reina did within hours of the announcement, 'El Nino' chose to step up plans for his own exit.

Roman Abramovich's appearance at Spain's World Cup semi-final win over Germany in Durban was not the smoking gun which many Liverpool supporters perceived.

La Furia Roja may have triumphed but Torres was their greatest passenger; resorting to uncharacteristic diving which resulted in the unfair dismissal of Chile's Marco Estrada.

With Chelsea's interest virtually diminished, he attempted to atone for his summer-long silence by posing with a Liverpool scarf in Spain's victorious Soccer City dressing room.

Christian Purslow, Liverpool's former managing director, safeguarded Anfield's key asset until the club was sold by brokering a deal with Torres during crisis talks in Ibiza to stay put.

He returned to Melwood, the club's training ground, sporting a tooty grin to deliver the penultimate deception to Reds fans as he continued to plot his over-running escape.

A half-season under Roy Hodgson's disastrous and short-lived tenure offered almost justification for Torres to traipse around the nation's pitches looking largely disinterested.

Goals still trickled but he was still able to turn on the style when it suited as proven by a 10-minute spell against Manchester United and, coincidentally, 87 minutes against Chelsea.

At times during those final five months as a Liverpool player, Torres' ongoing and overt desire to leave the club saw him alienate himself further from some of his team mates.

And even with Liverpool in the hands of capable owners and a manager in Kenny Dalglish - a man with whom he once had a strong level of mutual respect - Torres remained unswayed.

His timing in handing in an initially unsuccessful transfer request was designed to avenge the broken promises and general malaise suffered at the hands of Hicks and Gillett.

It underlined how far the player who breezed through Anfield's corridors in summer 2007 had fallen and was, at the cost of his morals, desperate to revive his ailing commercial image.

Liverpool may lack his fire power but their loss -and Andy Carroll's inability to live up to his  £35million billing - has not been Chelsea's gain as Torres' form has been incredibly sproadic.

They have made peace with his ill-conceived decisions while under their jurisdiction, with Dalglish repeatedly dismissing the importance of any individual player to the club.

Torres, however, remains regretful at reneging on previous pledges that Liverpool would remain his English club and continues to convince himself that he was blameless.

In time he may return to his free-scoring ways, lift the silverware which eluded him at Anfield and possibly retain his starring role in Spain's front line to expunge all doubts over his move.

A goal against Liverpool on Sunday would go some way to helping achieve this but while he remains engrossed on rewriting history, he is in danger of remaining English football's punch line.

Beautifully written !

A work of impeccable precision and a riveting read.

Players come and go and as a fans we accept it and move forward but timing is everything and Torres departure was about as ill timed as it gets.

His argument and reasoning were 6 months out of date. Had he gone in the summer after Rafa's departure, his World Cup winners medal swinging in the wind and Roy about to start his brief tenure at Liverpool Football Club then he may well have left on good terms with the majority of fans.

To go only a handful of games into Dalglish's second coming, days after the acquisition of Suarez and weeks after new owners had saved the club from the brink was tantamount to treachery.

Torres can bleat on about the circumstances of his leaving and infer that the real truth isn't known but in the final analysis he was a minority of ONE who wished to leave believing himself to be bigger than the club.

Football is a short career and whatever happens for the remainder of Fernando Torres's career he can't escape the fact that the last 12 months have been a wilderness experience for a player who chose to walk away from the sanctuary of a club that loved and adored him and stood alongside him when injured and out of form.

At Chelsea the adoration is conditional and if he continues to under deliver on the scale he has for the last year he will learn a hard lesson............. A man who wastes one hour of time never mind a year of his life does not appreciate the value of life itself.

Walk on ..........
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Postby maguskwt » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:45 am

I doubt that Torres will ever be back to the same level as he was at LFC. He will always be a very good striker... But he was a super striker when he was with us. And this is mainly because of how Rafa plays him and because of Stevie G.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:07 pm

he's now 3rd choice behind Sturridge :laugh:

was woeful today when he came on too. Carry on Nando lad...won't be long before you've got another new Chelsea manager to impress  :laugh:
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Postby metalhead » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:54 pm

Anyone realised that when Meireles and Torres came on we scored the winner?

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Postby ethanr » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:40 am

metalhead wrote:Anyone realised that when Meireles and Torres came on we scored the winner?

:D

Had actually mentioned to my brother... As soon as those 2 came on it seemed to turn everything our way.  Nothing they did looked dangerous anymore and we had 2 really clear opportunities (and 1 goal) right away.
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Postby Reg » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:29 am

Looks like his career is over.

Blackburn beckons.
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Postby Greavesie » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:29 am

I was just reading a Chelsea forum and some of them are well p!ssed off with Torres, they're saying he was warming up in front of our fans and applauding them, I'm not sure what to make of it, for starters I don't think our fans would reciprocate :D  can anyone clarify this?
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Postby Reg » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:00 am

They're looking for someone to blame as all fans do when their team is losing.

Example of their misery:

'one thing that got me was what seem like Torres's sheer delight when he saw his old team mates at the end of the game , it was like he was celebrating with them. one thing we lack is team unity. a few years ago you could say most of our players would fight for the shirt. now its just a bunch as sub par individual performances.'
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Postby Kenny Kan » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:45 pm

The commentator said something like.... 'he's got highlights in his hair, but there hasn't been many on the field for Torres' :D

Mark my words, he won't come good at Chelsea. Their style and play just doesn't suit him like ours did. Mind you we have the same problem with Carroll now.
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