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NANNY RED wrote:Theres a couple of things i would like to see here next season, Obviously and  the most imperitive one is the yanks fecking off and getting in someone who cares about us, like the way we do, If that happens my wish list would be just a couple of players tbh  A left back is a must, A proper what you call outside left, good stong hard defender with a brain , Second a suitable striker either to partner Fernando or to bring on when either the lad needs a rest or is injured , someone we can rely on to put the ball in the back of the net , An i want Arda Turan in a red shirt. Oh i nearly forgot go and sugn them Rafa lad your the boss 

bunglemark2 wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:Theres a couple of things i would like to see here next season, Obviously and  the most imperitive one is the yanks fecking off and getting in someone who cares about us, like the way we do, If that happens my wish list would be just a couple of players tbh  A left back is a must, A proper what you call outside left, good stong hard defender with a brain , Second a suitable striker either to partner Fernando or to bring on when either the lad needs a rest or is injured , someone we can rely on to put the ball in the back of the net , An i want Arda Turan in a red shirt. Oh i nearly forgot go and sugn them Rafa lad your the boss 

What would you do with Johnson then Nan ?
Second, Rafa doesn't like 2 up front, so that's not gonna happen. And we've already seen two proven strikers feck off 'cos they won't play second fiddle to Torres.
Lastly, unless we offload a couple of players (Babel, Aurelio, maybe even Aquaman) I can't see where the money for new signings is going to come from....

Jonno is a right back, hed still be in my plans  But that Arda can play left or right wing .two good feet , id swap him with a bit of cash thrown in and Babel ,An im not saying go out an buy the same class striker as Fernando , that would take millions and millions, but what i would like is another striker ,who is what youd call a safe bet to either use as an option or to link up with Fernando when needed. I think we missed the boat on this last season when that Tunci was available, Classy footballer ,works his ar.se off , but knows were the goal is , And i dont think he would of been to unhappy on are bench, ffs hes keeping Stokes bench warm which is a tradedy in my opinion, As i said things like this can only happen with the other two fecking off .

bigmick wrote:I'd sell Aquilani, who I think we'd probably get 10-12 million for if we do it quick. I'd sit down with Torres and have a real heart to heart with him. If he does want away, or is thinking about wanting away, I'd do a deal now while Man City have still got cash to burn, I'd ask 100 million for him and take a similar amount to what the Mancs got for Ronaldo. If he wants to stay obviously I wouldn't sell him.

I'd buy Steven Ireland who I think is an excellent player who would be brilliant for us. I'd play him alongside Masherano AND Gerrard in a five man midfield, not 4-4-1-1 but 4-5-1. I'd re-introduce Riera down the left, and I'd play Babel down the right.

I'd buy Roger Johnson off of Birmingham, failing that Ryan Shawcross off Stoke and play him alongside Carragher at centre half. At right back I'd play Glen Johnson, and at left back I'd play Daniel Agger.

I'd have Masherano as my sitter in front, like a Claude Makeleli type role, and I'd have Ireland and Gerrard bombing on to support hopefully Torres. The team would have pace out wide, would be very attacking, and would have IMHO a decent defence too. My second striker would be Kuyt, and I'd be telling him that if he can't cut the role we'd be looking to move him on.

My net spend would be about 10 mill I think. I think I'd get 12 for Aquilani, Ireland would cost about the same and Roger Johnson 10 off Birmingham (Shawcross would probably be a bit more but I'm not sure). I'd go all out for the title from game one of pre-season and feck off the Europa league.

I think that team would go very close.

Reg wrote:

bigmick wrote:I'd sell Aquilani, who I think we'd probably get 10-12 million for if we do it quick. I'd sit down with Torres and have a real heart to heart with him. If he does want away, or is thinking about wanting away, I'd do a deal now while Man City have still got cash to burn, I'd ask 100 million for him and take a similar amount to what the Mancs got for Ronaldo. If he wants to stay obviously I wouldn't sell him.

I'd buy Steven Ireland who I think is an excellent player who would be brilliant for us. I'd play him alongside Masherano AND Gerrard in a five man midfield, not 4-4-1-1 but 4-5-1. I'd re-introduce Riera down the left, and I'd play Babel down the right.

I'd buy Roger Johnson off of Birmingham, failing that Ryan Shawcross off Stoke and play him alongside Carragher at centre half. At right back I'd play Glen Johnson, and at left back I'd play Daniel Agger.

I'd have Masherano as my sitter in front, like a Claude Makeleli type role, and I'd have Ireland and Gerrard bombing on to support hopefully Torres. The team would have pace out wide, would be very attacking, and would have IMHO a decent defence too. My second striker would be Kuyt, and I'd be telling him that if he can't cut the role we'd be looking to move him on.

My net spend would be about 10 mill I think. I think I'd get 12 for Aquilani, Ireland would cost about the same and Roger Johnson 10 off Birmingham (Shawcross would probably be a bit more but I'm not sure). I'd go all out for the title from game one of pre-season and feck off the Europa league.

I think that team would go very close.

That would be an extremely interesting team.

But could it play week in, week out and could it win in europe?

And you still havent bought a replacement striker for Torres when he´s injured, needs rest etc...

bigmick wrote:I'd sell Aquilani, who I think we'd probably get 10-12 million for if we do it quick. I'd sit down with Torres and have a real heart to heart with him. If he does want away, or is thinking about wanting away, I'd do a deal now while Man City have still got cash to burn, I'd ask 100 million for him and take a similar amount to what the Mancs got for Ronaldo. If he wants to stay obviously I wouldn't sell him.

I'd buy Steven Ireland who I think is an excellent player who would be brilliant for us. I'd play him alongside Masherano AND Gerrard in a five man midfield, not 4-4-1-1 but 4-5-1. I'd re-introduce Riera down the left, and I'd play Babel down the right.

I'd buy Roger Johnson off of Birmingham, failing that Ryan Shawcross off Stoke and play him alongside Carragher at centre half. At right back I'd play Glen Johnson, and at left back I'd play Daniel Agger.

I'd have Masherano as my sitter in front, like a Claude Makeleli type role, and I'd have Ireland and Gerrard bombing on to support hopefully Torres. The team would have pace out wide, would be very attacking, and would have IMHO a decent defence too. My second striker would be Kuyt, and I'd be telling him that if he can't cut the role we'd be looking to move him on.

My net spend would be about 10 mill I think. I think I'd get 12 for Aquilani, Ireland would cost about the same and Roger Johnson 10 off Birmingham (Shawcross would probably be a bit more but I'm not sure). I'd go all out for the title from game one of pre-season and feck off the Europa league.

I think that team would go very close.

your second striker is Kuyt, but who's your first striker after we sold Torres to City? 

bad idea to sell the world's best striker to one of our Premier League rival clubs... I'd sell him another league... would still have plenty of takers...

john craig wrote:Unfortunately Torres is extremely injury prone.  He seems to have progressively played less games in a season for us over his three years.  Hamstring and knee problems are bad news and as he's said himself he's finding the physical nature of the league difficult.

ironman wrote:

zarababe wrote:Rafa will be here next season - and if the right investor comes in - he will lead us to the holy grail.. and more !!!

Bring on next season COME ON RAFA'S RED ARMY !!!

SCAREY!!! your exactly why wel stay behind the pack for many more yrs!!!!!

Me and the Red Army that follows the reds...   

Ask Saber..   

You know what, I shouldn't have sold the club to H&G 

maguskwt wrote:your second striker is Kuyt, but who's your first striker after we sold Torres to City? 

bad idea to sell the world's best striker to one of our Premier League rival clubs... I'd sell him another league... would still have plenty of takers...

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Kharhaz wrote:

john craig wrote:Unfortunately Torres is extremely injury prone.  He seems to have progressively played less games in a season for us over his three years.  Hamstring and knee problems are bad news and as he's said himself he's finding the physical nature of the league difficult.

Right.

Next season could decide it for Torres. Not the success of himself or the club, but the injuries he suffers. If next season is similar to this season, or worse. Then we could well end up seeing the last of him in england.

TORRES

07/08 : 46 games, 33 goals = 77.97% of LFC games
08/09 : 38 games, 17 goals = 69.09% of LFC games
09/10 : 32 games, 22 goals = 57.14% of LFC games*

*includes the three games we definitely have left to play, barring any miracle return

A goal machine when fit, yet funny how many say Owen is "injury prone" when our talismanic striker is set to play only 57% or so of our games. Ironically Owen played 31 games for the mancs this season, scored less than half the number of goals but was hardly a regular starter unlike Torres. If only we still had one or two players seen as surplus to requirements, although that said the trend on here seems to be growing animosity to anyone who doesn't score one in every two games, with the oddest exception.

We seem to be happy blaming anything and everything but the people and things that need blaming. 'Stars' are out injured or not performing so we blame the perceived weak(er) links, a magic signing or two and luck (with injuries) will magically make all right with the world. Some scapegoats are just too easy, 'twit and ', Kuyt, Lucas, Insua, Babel, N'Gog, this imaginary 'injury crisis' when Torres has already scored more goals this season than last, when Gerrard has played more games but only scored half the goals he did last season, when we don't really rate either left-back but it's more about quantity (of injuries) than quality (of player injured)