Rafa benitez - Give as many positives as negatives

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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:36 pm

Positives: Ability to beat anyone on our day
Negatives: No consistency or understanding what it takes to win the PL
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Postby heimdall » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:54 pm

supersub wrote:FA Cup minor...ffs  :no

compared to the PL and CL yes it is.
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Postby jono » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:57 pm

positives: got a long contract
negatives: got a long contract
You got to cry without weeping
Talk without speaking
Scream without raising your voice
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:57 pm

The FA Cup is still a massive trophy and regarded as the biggest and most famous domestic club trophy in the world - it is a major trophy .
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Postby killerp » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:27 pm

jono wrote:positives: got a long contract
negatives: got a long contract

:D  hey that's a good one
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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:37 pm

killerp wrote:
jono wrote:positives: got a long contract
negatives: got a long contract

:D  hey that's a good one

Thats what Rafa said when he signed it
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Postby Emerald Red » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:48 pm

s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
s@int wrote:Positive
Good manager with good technical and tactical knowledge, reasonably successful in the transfer market and usually lucky. ( Like Napoleon I like my managers to be lucky)

Negative
Poor man manager who makes too many mistakes.

He ain't that lucky these days, S@int.

You could argue he is lucky to still be in a job mate  :D

Suppose. But is that down to luck, or having someone by the balls?  ???
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Postby Ben Patrick » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:51 pm

Right ok.......

Positives

Made the greatest signing any manager has made for us in 20 years maybe more bringing us Torres.
Clearly loves the club, the fans and the city etc.
Won us the european cup, i honestly couldnt have ever imagined that happening again in my lifetime, i thought we were miles from that level.
And he done it with a squad that virtually everyone would concede was by far the weakest of our european cup winning sides.
He then won us the FA cup and knocked out both united and chelsea on the way to doing it.
Rafa has not only restored our european pride, he has made us one of the favourites for the trophy each year since he arrived.

Negatives

The stubborness or lack of willingness to change and adapt to things.
Be it substitutions in a match, rotation in the first 3 seasons or the formation that we are currently adopting when its clearly not working.
The constant major squad reshuffes season after season, i know his hands are tied with finances to an extent but if you bring in 6-7 players every season and sell the same the squad just doesnt gel.
Thats probably why it takes us until the second half of the season to kick in, the players are probably settled by then.
The Robbie Keane fiasco, decent enough player and when you sell Crouch and buy Keane and pay all that money you should do all you can to make it work.
I dont think he did at all and it has left the squad ridiculously weak in attack.

Hand on heart i think he has had his day, i have said it before that this season is reminding me of geds last one, and it is.
The confidence has totally gone from the players and its time for a change imo.

The only thing is with these owners who would come here ?
Surely talk of Jose Mourinho and Guus Hiddink type names are pipe dreams with the current set up.
It leaves me at my most disallusioned i have ever been  :(
Sabre looks like a big lezzer
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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:56 pm

Positives:
Winning CL
Winning FA cup
Getting to CL 2007

Negatives:
Winning CL
Winning FA cup
Getting to CL 2007
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Postby redbeergoggles » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:27 am

Positives : Loves the club and knows that its the fans who make it special
               Refuses to bow to the tidal wave of animosity he is  subjected to throughout the media
               He is by no means remotely Portuguese
               He acts with dignity and decorum synonymous with all Liverpool managers
               Can be tactically superb when it matters
               Loathes the owners equally as much as we do

Negatives  Hasnt appeared in any adverts promoting Sky television or Barclaycard
               Has never managed Porto, or run up and down the touchline at Old Trafford
               Never at any time wore a stylish long coat
               His name is in no way portuguese
               Has never once proclaimed himself the special one :D
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Postby Rush Job » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:45 am

redbeergoggles wrote:Positives : Loves the club and knows that its the fans who make it special
               Refuses to bow to the tidal wave of animosity he is  subjected to throughout the media
               He is by no means remotely Portuguese
               He acts with dignity and decorum synonymous with all Liverpool managers
               Can be tactically superb when it matters
               Loathes the owners equally as much as we do

Negatives  Hasnt appeared in any adverts promoting Sky television or Barclaycard
               Has never managed Porto, or run up and down the touchline at Old Trafford
               Never at any time wore a stylish long coat
               His name is in no way portuguese
               Has never once proclaimed himself the special one :D

:laugh:

Its funny cus its true.
Dont judge a book by the cover, unless you cover just another, because blind exceptance is a sign,
Of stupid fools who stand in line......  Like..
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Postby Rush Job » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:47 am

I recon scot been to marrage guidance to come up with an idea like this.

Hope its going well for ya mate.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:57 am

killerp wrote:Negative: Rafa has won nothing major since 2005

:Oo:

Erm...

FA Cup?
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:03 am

heimdall wrote:
supersub wrote:FA Cup minor...ffs  :no

compared to the PL and CL yes it is.

With respect, only a foreigner would say that.
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Postby Sir Roger » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:45 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:Positives:
Winning CL
Winning FA cup
Getting to CL 2007

Negatives:
Winning CL
Winning FA cup
Getting to CL 2007

Pr*ck. :no

Haha
Temper temper
Did the naughty man make a point you didnt agree with?
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If Rafa wouldnt have done those three things he wouldnt be the manager today. It is both a blessing and a curse that he has had those successes (even though he fu'cked the second milan game up) because it gave him almost total power. This means that he has done virtually what he wanted without resistance or question.
If we were winning it would be a positive.
I hope this clears things up for you?
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