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mrt wrote:And before Xabi we had Stevie to spray the ball about and do his thing while Didi sat and mopped up.  Hopefully Aquilani will provide plenty going forwards when he's fit.  If he can shift Lucas out of the team...

Or Mascher...

I think that at £17m he'll definetely get his chance

burjennio wrote:

mrt wrote:And before Xabi we had Stevie to spray the ball about and do his thing while Didi sat and mopped up.  Hopefully Aquilani will provide plenty going forwards when he's fit.  If he can shift Lucas out of the team...

Or Mascher...

I think that at £17m he'll definetely get his chance

mrt wrote:And before Xabi we had Stevie to spray the ball about and do his thing while Didi sat and mopped up.  Hopefully Aquilani will provide plenty going forwards when he's fit.  If he can shift Lucas out of the team...

Or Mascher...

Lucas is our best option in midfield after our first choices, sad to say. Rafa bought him and I agree with Ciggy from the perspective it is Rafa's fault as he bought him and I've said before that I didn't think he should have. But we tend to compare him with Mascherano, Gerrard and Alonso and are surprised he's not as good. Are our expectation levels higher of Lucas because of other players in the team?

Personally I think Lucas does a decent, quietly effective job. Nothing much in the way of MOTM, but tidy. I'd rather Lucas in the side than Plessis, but I seriously doubt Rafa spent £20m on Aquilani who isn't yet fit, with anything other than bringing him into the 1st XI asap. If he were thinking of playing Gerrard alongside Mascherano and bringing in a second striker I'm not so sure he would have bought Aquilani and not spent the money on someone else.

What I do find funny is the contrary views of members on here, Lucas isn't good enough on the one hand but on the other hand people dare not say it because we're supposed to get behind the team. Surely the point of DISCUSSION is not everyone agrees to say and think the same, but to offer differing angles. One of the worst habits, other than those I mentioned in my previous post, that you get on boards is threads where it's just smileys eg orshort posts of agreement. There should be a ban on posts of less than a sentence or simply smileys.

heimdall wrote:Why do you feel the need to support players who will never make the grade? You see I can't be bothered to waste my support on players who are not worthy of it and Lucas will never ever make the grade

Absolutely gobsmacked to read this,even though its from Heimdall its still astounding!
To think that someone who claims to support and love a team could come off with this is beyond belief!

So we should only support the best players and not "waste our support" on the not so talented!
Does that go as far as not supporting Lucas on the pitch,should we actually not want him to do well?

Heimdall its been said many times before on here lad,You are NEVER an LFC fan,you have not even got the first idea how wrong all tht sh'ite you come out with is!
I really dont think you are playing with the full deck lad!

heimdall wrote:

burjennio wrote:

mrt wrote:And before Xabi we had Stevie to spray the ball about and do his thing while Didi sat and mopped up.  Hopefully Aquilani will provide plenty going forwards when he's fit.  If he can shift Lucas out of the team...

Or Mascher...

I think that at £17m he'll definetely get his chance

Burmernjinio can you please explain to me, and the other people who fail to see it, what in footballing terms, you see as Lucas's qualities?

Its not "what I see" It's what you clearly don't see.

The guy has ability, hes quick, can tackle, is good positionally, looks for a ball (while according to some of you he only passes 5 yards     ) and lately has demonstrated more willingness to get forward and join attacks.

Im starting to think that with some of you guys its like Dirk Kuyt mark 2. What I mean is that some time ago you formed an opinion that the guy wasn't up to it, but while others can see a change and improvement as time goes on, you, for whatever reason, perhaps you're stubborn, or don't get to watch as many games as others cannot or do not see this progression so stick more and more to your pre-conceived idea, and the more people disagree with you the harder you try to force it across.

But then again maybe some just like to wind people up

burjennio wrote:

heimdall wrote:

burjennio wrote:

mrt wrote:And before Xabi we had Stevie to spray the ball about and do his thing while Didi sat and mopped up.  Hopefully Aquilani will provide plenty going forwards when he's fit.  If he can shift Lucas out of the team...

Or Mascher...

I think that at £17m he'll definetely get his chance

Burmernjinio can you please explain to me, and the other people who fail to see it, what in footballing terms, you see as Lucas's qualities?

Its not "what I see" It's what you clearly don't see.

The guy has ability, hes quick, can tackle, is good positionally, looks for a ball (while according to some of you he only passes 5 yards     ) and lately has demonstrated more willingness to get forward and join attacks.

Im starting to think that with some of you guys its like Dirk Kuyt mark 2. What I mean is that some time ago you formed an opinion that the guy wasn't up to it, but while others can see a change and improvement as time goes on, you, for whatever reason, perhaps you're stubborn, or don't get to watch as many games as others cannot or do not see this progression so stick more and more to your pre-conceived idea, and the more people disagree with you the harder you try to force it across.

But then again maybe some just like to wind people up

Good point about Kuyt!
He took dogs abuse on here from a bunch of idiots!Now he has shut them up,they turn their attentions to Lucas.

The bottom line is there are some more passionate about picking on a certain player and continuously shi'tting on him than they are about LFC as a whole!
Personally I dont think Lucas is good enough,yes he has improved and I reckon he deserves till the end of the season to see how he goes.Regardless of his ability or lack of,the abuse he gets from certain"fans" and i use the term lightly is out of order!

Bunch of w@nkers and not worth arguing with IMO!

burjennio wrote:

Plain and simple.........Lucas is !...why all of a sudden are these people with short memories trying to "play up (useless) Lucas"?.......just because he had a half decent game...against a less than half decent side (stoke) all of a sudden he has become "St Lucas" ....well he dont cut the mustard with me....or with many other LFC fans either...lets see St Lucas play as well in the forthcoming games against better opposition ie...villa, chelsea...or will he be overun again and disapear up his own [email]Ars@hole...just[/email] like he did at Totenham.

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you moron number 3

No one is talking him up after 1 game, yet you shallow tw*ts still judge him on giving away a penalty against Wigan and getting sent off against Everton. People that don't suffer from learning disabilities can see that he puts in a good shift every game and contributes CONSISTENTLY to the side, in both attack and defence yet idiots, and I don't use that term lightly come on here and blame him for the Spurs debacle when he was clearly one of the better Liverpool players AND handcuffed to Mascherano who had a total shocker but nope, your feeble little minds has to have a scapegoat and you could never hold players like Carragher and to Torres to task because they're AWESOME IN FOTBALL MANAGER.

It would be easy to simply just label you retarded and go on with the day but since you are all little trolls and every 3rd post belongs to one of you and your constant anti-Liverpool drivel it starts to grind the gears, and I'm sure others feel the same way having to CONSTANTLY defend our own.

Its obvious your brain dead as well as some of the other "Lucas bum boys" on here?............what a load of bollox you talk, do you actually attend any home games? If you do then you would see how p1ss poor he is....game after game! he fails to convince or inspire....he needs to be sold ASAP.....boy there's 'sum dums' on here....and your defo one of em'.  

REDTILLDEAD wrote:

burjennio wrote:

Plain and simple.........Lucas is !...why all of a sudden are these people with short memories trying to "play up (useless) Lucas"?.......just because he had a half decent game...against a less than half decent side (stoke) all of a sudden he has become "St Lucas" ....well he dont cut the mustard with me....or with many other LFC fans either...lets see St Lucas play as well in the forthcoming games against better opposition ie...villa, chelsea...or will he be overun again and disapear up his own [email]Ars@hole...just[/email] like he did at Totenham.

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you moron number 3

No one is talking him up after 1 game, yet you shallow tw*ts still judge him on giving away a penalty against Wigan and getting sent off against Everton. People that don't suffer from learning disabilities can see that he puts in a good shift every game and contributes CONSISTENTLY to the side, in both attack and defence yet idiots, and I don't use that term lightly come on here and blame him for the Spurs debacle when he was clearly one of the better Liverpool players AND handcuffed to Mascherano who had a total shocker but nope, your feeble little minds has to have a scapegoat and you could never hold players like Carragher and to Torres to task because they're AWESOME IN FOTBALL MANAGER.

It would be easy to simply just label you retarded and go on with the day but since you are all little trolls and every 3rd post belongs to one of you and your constant anti-Liverpool drivel it starts to grind the gears, and I'm sure others feel the same way having to CONSTANTLY defend our own.

Its obvious your brain dead as well as some of the other "Lucas bum boys" on here?............what a load of bollox you talk, do you actually attend any home games? If you do then you would see how p1ss poor he is....game after game! he fails to convince or inspire....he needs to be sold ASAP.....boy there's 'sum dums' on here....and your defo one of em'.  

says the person who cant spell dumb 

Ben Patrick wrote:

REDTILLDEAD wrote:

burjennio wrote:

Plain and simple.........Lucas is !...why all of a sudden are these people with short memories trying to "play up (useless) Lucas"?.......just because he had a half decent game...against a less than half decent side (stoke) all of a sudden he has become "St Lucas" ....well he dont cut the mustard with me....or with many other LFC fans either...lets see St Lucas play as well in the forthcoming games against better opposition ie...villa, chelsea...or will he be overun again and disapear up his own [email]Ars@hole...just[/email] like he did at Totenham.

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you moron number 3

No one is talking him up after 1 game, yet you shallow tw*ts still judge him on giving away a penalty against Wigan and getting sent off against Everton. People that don't suffer from learning disabilities can see that he puts in a good shift every game and contributes CONSISTENTLY to the side, in both attack and defence yet idiots, and I don't use that term lightly come on here and blame him for the Spurs debacle when he was clearly one of the better Liverpool players AND handcuffed to Mascherano who had a total shocker but nope, your feeble little minds has to have a scapegoat and you could never hold players like Carragher and to Torres to task because they're AWESOME IN FOTBALL MANAGER.

It would be easy to simply just label you retarded and go on with the day but since you are all little trolls and every 3rd post belongs to one of you and your constant anti-Liverpool drivel it starts to grind the gears, and I'm sure others feel the same way having to CONSTANTLY defend our own.

Its obvious your brain dead as well as some of the other "Lucas bum boys" on here?............what a load of bollox you talk, do you actually attend any home games? If you do then you would see how p1ss poor he is....game after game! he fails to convince or inspire....he needs to be sold ASAP.....boy there's 'sum dums' on here....and your defo one of em'.  

says the person who cant spell dumb 

Your a 'Dum' as well otherwise you would have noticed it was spelt that way for a reason?........doh!