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by **Koptite** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:45 pm

i voted yes .....if we would be picking him up for next to nothing and his salary is not sky high i dont see why not, he would add strengh and competion for our forwards and i think it could only be a good thing for the likes of Robbie Keane if he knows Owen is breathing down his neck.

by **Judge** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:12 pm

i will not be surprised if owen returns to anfield as a player in January

by **tubby** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:17 pm

Judge wrote:i will not be surprised if owen returns to anfield as a player in January

Is that based on the situation (ie that he can come fro next to nothing and we need another striker) or is that based on some information you have recieved?

I hope you are right.

by **Owzat** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:23 pm

I'm surprised 1/3 are against it, unless the interpretation is will Owen return rather than do they want Owen back

Maybe Rafa himself could scupper any prospects, if Owen thinks he isn't wanted then I doubt he'd come. Quite where we go if Owen doesn't come back I don't know. Sit with fingers crossed that Torres regains full fitness and form, maybe that psychological damage done to Keane isn't permanent and he can find his shooting boots, that maybe Kuyt can fill in during Torres' absence, that we'll keep winning scrappy and that our inferior GD won't cost us, that Lucas will become popular and at the same time a quality player

etc

Quality players become available on the cheap from time to time, Deco proved worth the fee, Anelka has proved worth the fee, Santa Cruz has returned well on his fee, Defoe proved a bargain and I'm sure there are others people could cite that have more than repaid their fee. Yet some still view these with a distrust. If we spend say £4m on Owen in January and he scores only five or six goals that won't be a complete disaster. We've wasted money before, it's not as if Dossena has sorted out the LB problem at £7m, that Keane has sorted the goals problem at £20m or Babel has cemented a starting role at £11.5m. So why not take a relatively small (risk) gamble on a player who is already a Liverpool legend? Must be a hate thing

by **redhayesy** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:25 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:No.

1) The tw@t refused to give Rafa a chance when he first came to the club

2) The Dipstick went to Newcastle instead of coming back when he had the chance

3) Injuries

4) Never go back

For the record, I think Heskey will be an even worse signing.

spot on Leon mate :nod

i don't want owen back as a matter of principle! feck the price,he doesn't ever deserve to wear the famous red shirt again.

as for heskey -feck that tw@t,just the thought of him coming back here makes my blood boil.

by the way fo feck face, insult people -expect it back!
your fecking stupid topic starter has been done before,so for someone who thinks he knows it all, for once listen to what other people on this forum post,& accept that your the tw@t for even thinking owen is worthy to play for us again, after he shafted us in the first place. :veryangry

by **Leonmc0708** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:33 pm

One thing I do not understand the supposed "low price".

Has anyone here been in the Newcastle boardroom when his price has been agreed ?

Didnt think so.

by **Scottbot** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:42 pm

Owzat wrote:Quality players become available on the cheap from time to time, Deco proved worth the fee, Anelka has proved worth the fee, Santa Cruz has returned well on his fee, Defoe proved a bargain and I'm sure there are others people could cite that have more than repaid their fee. Yet some still view these with a distrust. If we spend say £4m on Owen in January and he scores only five or six goals that won't be a complete disaster. We've wasted money before, it's not as if Dossena has sorted out the LB problem at £7m, that Keane has sorted the goals problem at £20m or Babel has cemented a starting role at £11.5m. So why not take a relatively small (risk) gamble on a player who is already a Liverpool legend? Must be a hate thing

what he said...

by **Fo Dne** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:54 pm

redhayesy wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:No.

1) The tw@t refused to give Rafa a chance when he first came to the club

2) The Dipstick went to Newcastle instead of coming back when he had the chance

3) Injuries

4) Never go back

For the record, I think Heskey will be an even worse signing.

spot on Leon mate

i don't want owen back as a matter of principle! feck the price,he doesn't ever deserve to wear the famous red shirt again.

as for heskey -feck that tw@t,just the thought of him coming back here makes my blood boil.

by the way fo feck face, insult people -expect it back!
your fecking stupid topic starter has been done before,so for someone who thinks he knows it all, for once listen to what other people on this forum post,& accept that your the tw@t for even thinking owen is worthy to play for us again, after he shafted us in the first place.

Am not the one who goes cryin to the mods when I get insulted.

As I said, no footballing reason you don't want him back here. You aren't Rafa by any chance are you?

:laugh:

by **Scottbot** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:14 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:One thing I do not understand the supposed "low price".

Has anyone here been in the Newcastle boardroom when his price has been agreed ?

Didnt think so.

Seems pretty reasonable to assume the price for a player entering the final 6 months of his contract and also injury-prone will be a fair bit cheaper than the £18 million Newcastle shelled out for him.

by **Redman in wales** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:24 pm

stmichael wrote:28 goals in 50 starts

thats what does it for me.

we all know his injury status. but at the moment... 2 goals last saturday at a time when we are crying out for goals.

would definately take him back if the price was right

by **Fo Dne** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:33 pm

Scottbot wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:One thing I do not understand the supposed "low price".

Has anyone here been in the Newcastle boardroom when his price has been agreed ?

Didnt think so.

Seems pretty reasonable to assume the price for a player entering the final 6 months of his contract and also injury-prone will be a fair bit cheaper than the £18 million Newcastle shelled out for him.

by **Scottbot** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:50 pm

john craig wrote:Owen is definitely one of the players we should be looking at in January (if we have any money at all that is).

Other players we should be taking into consideration imo are:

Valencia
Guttierez (quality imo - I know he isn't long signed for Newcastle though)
Martins
Gudjohnson (cu.nt but a good player)
Heinze
Tuncay (very underrated imo)
Eboue (not long on his contract, far from flavour of the month at Arsenal, but still quality when actually played in his best position, which is right back)
Benny McCarthy (Out of the team at Blackburn, but has proved can score goals in the Premiership and could be a decent short term signing)

A controversial list, but we have to be fairly realistic. Personally I don't think Rafa will be allowed to bring anyone in unless he sells. Ideally he'd like to offload Pennant I reckon. If he doesn't then I can't see us getting anyone. Despite his injuries and the history I have to agree Owen would probably be the best deal we could hope for in January, but he would have to take a massive wage cut and I just can't see it.

Valencia - I haven't really seen enough of the player to have an opinion. he looks quite skillful but i get the impression that he falls in to the 'playing well for a lower league team so will cost a small fortune if you want us to sell him' bracket so he would be a no-no for me on that basis.

Guittierez - I really like him. A real live-wire with the ball at his feet, works hard and suprisingly, he loves a tackle and looks taylor made for English football. would take the kind of money we haven't got though

Martins - I like him, he's very quick, is used to English football and is capable of spectacular goals as well as some good work in the box. without Torres we don't have a player who can stretch defences. Martins gives you that.

Gudjonsen - Quality player. We DESPERATELY need a big man. he would do fine for me. He is also versatile given Rafa's penchant for playing forwards anywhere across the front 4. the price would be right as well.

Heinze - Must admit I never really wanted him in the first place. Not sure how he has been doing at Madrid, I know he is seeing a lot of time on the bench. No doubt he would be an upgrade on Dossena though.

Tuncay - That's a good shout mate. He's a quality player who has that little bit of unpredictability (like little Luis) that could see him excel in a functional team like ours.

Eboue - Interesting shout this one, especially after Saturday. Not one I had ever considered but there is no doubt he was playing excellent football a couple of seasons ago.

McCarthy - Not a big fan myself. Watched the lad up close at Fratton last weekend and was very un-impressed. I know he has missed a lot of football over the past year and he looked like he had lost a step to me.

by **club_Levis** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:53 pm

Dont want him back.Injury prone guy that will not bring anything good that we dont have already.

by **Rush Job** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:09 pm

stmichael wrote:28 goals in 50 starts for a rubbish team like Newcastle. Everyone makes excuses for Keane and Kuyt when they don't score, saying they haven't had good enough service. Well don't tell me Owen regularly gets better service playing up front for that shower of no hopers than our strikers get at Liverpool. Cast iron, guaranteed goals for a ridiculously low fee. No brainer for me. The priority is winning the title and he would improve our chances of doing so.

Well considering the service to our front men is next to non-existant I would say yes Owen has had better service.
Maybe we still need a creative player rather than a six yard box player.
The reason Torres has been so good for us is he scores and creates for his self, how many chances was Kuyt given in the last match? How many does Keane get in an average game?
Not many.

by **Fo Dne** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:20 pm

Rush Job wrote:
stmichael wrote:28 goals in 50 starts for a rubbish team like Newcastle. Everyone makes excuses for Keane and Kuyt when they don't score, saying they haven't had good enough service. Well don't tell me Owen regularly gets better service playing up front for that shower of no hopers than our strikers get at Liverpool. Cast iron, guaranteed goals for a ridiculously low fee. No brainer for me. The priority is winning the title and he would improve our chances of doing so.

Well considering the service to our front men is next to non-existant I would say yes Owen has had better service.
Maybe we still need a creative player rather than a six yard box player.
The reason Torres has been so good for us is he scores and creates for his self, how many chances was Kuyt given in the last match? How many does Keane get in an average game?
Not many.

Probably because Keane is hiding a bit and not playing his natural game and in Kuyts case doesn'thave the ability to make the right runs and get into good positions.

Gerrard played a belter of a pass the other day and Kuyt ran in a straight line watching the ball rather than attacking it in behind the defender like a great or even good striker would have done.

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