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Alex G. wrote:

zarababe wrote:

Alex G. wrote:I miss this 
Fernando get well soon.

go back to your Mancsh'te site - where are all these wums coming from Mods 

Zarababe, I think you misinterpreted it.

I missed what - you blaming Rafa for Torres' injury 

Stink of Mancsh'ite Al

Sabre wrote:

Alex G. wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

Alex G. wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

Alex G. wrote:-The style of game that Rafa asks of Torres with continuous explosive runs at the back of the defence (stopped - explosive run, stopped - explosive run).

Kinell, now Rafa gets blamed because Torres injured himself playing his natural game?  I suppose Rafa should get all the credit for Torres 30+ goals last season, then, since he trained him to do all that explosive starting and stopping?  The mind truly boggles. 

It´s just my opinion but I think is a "dangerous style", especially for the muscle injuries.
So, if we can´t blame on Rafa for it, what can we blame on the Spain team??.

It's not that the Spanish team is causing his injuries, it's just the amount of travel associated with international games and the additional minutes on the pitch that he doesn't need at the moment.  The last outing was especially frustrating, as it was a friendly and Torres was just coming back from a recurrence of his hamstring injury.  Spain should have left him at home to rest and recover.

But, back to my original point--his explosive starting and stopping is part of Torres' natural game.  It's not as though Rafa trained him to play that way.  If he could train that kind of thing, I think he might have been giving Kuyt, Keane and Babel a lot more work to do at Melwood.

He played only 30 minutes with Spain, and he got injured against Marseille, playing 90 minutes upfront on his own. Maybe that´s his natural game because of his pace, but it doesn´t mean that is not dangerous for his legs.

Yes, it's dangerous. That's why footballers get hamstring injuries and I don't.

You can't think much about it. Sometimes you'll get a player that until 28 he's spotless when it comes to injuries and then  a nightmare of injuries start.

I'm pretty sure the doctors said everything was ok when he was allowed back aswell. This things happen and we can't seek for many culprits.

Spain? you could talk about the extra games and different exercises in training, but I think it's trying to find a reason to probable mere bad luck. For what is worth, I'd preffer Torres wouldn't play a single friendly, but that's a lost battle.

Mind you, Rafa is starting to voice his concerns in Spain, like in the last game before the injury. And you could see by the reaction that people here won't give a fúck about how our manager is concerned about it. Actually the best chance we have is that Del Bosque and Rafa get along pretty well, and I'm sure given the circunstamces Del Bosque won't risk Torres again. In fact, many commented that him playing Torres only 30 minutes was a favour to Rafa.

zarababe wrote:

Alex G. wrote:

zarababe wrote:

Alex G. wrote:I miss this 
Fernando get well soon.

go back to your Mancsh'te site - where are all these wums coming from Mods 

Zarababe, I think you misinterpreted it.

I missed what - you blaming Rafa for Torres' injury 

Stink of Mancsh'ite Al

Alex G. wrote:

Espionage wrote:Sucks that no matter how good the rest of the season is, Torres will not have lived up to his first season at the club

He should retire from International Football

I don´t think the Torres injury is because of the international games.
Benitez tries to be too clever with all of this, but he should do more self-criticism. I´m not a fitness expert but...my opinion:

-The style of game that Rafa asks of Torres with continuous explosive runs at the back of the defence (stopped - explosive run, stopped - explosive run).

-The Torres diet could be a key factor to bear it in mind as well. I think he should gain weight and be stronger than he is now.

Octsky wrote:

Alex G. wrote:

Espionage wrote:Sucks that no matter how good the rest of the season is, Torres will not have lived up to his first season at the club

He should retire from International Football

I don´t think the Torres injury is because of the international games.
Benitez tries to be too clever with all of this, but he should do more self-criticism. I´m not a fitness expert but...my opinion:

-The style of game that Rafa asks of Torres with continuous explosive runs at the back of the defence (stopped - explosive run, stopped - explosive run).

-The Torres diet could be a key factor to bear it in mind as well. I think he should gain weight and be stronger than he is now.

stop explosive runs? that is like asking peter couch not to head the ball. torres pace is a big part of his game, take away that and it is like fighting unarmed.

i second the suggestion for him to quit international football, coz it will be another 50 yrs before spain wins anything.