Liverpool FC Forum

Lando_Griffin wrote:

s@int wrote:Seems to me you you have stooped just as low mate and without the excuse of making a point. I never said Liverpool haven't had injuries have I?

All teams get injuries, its not something new. The only injury in my estimation that was catastrophic for our season, was the Agger injury. Apart from that its the same old story.

Maybe if we had bought a new CB instead of gambling on getting Heinze last summer even the Agger injury would have been more manageable.

There I was thinking Heinze was meant to be a replacement for Riise, a left-back, and that Rafa went out at the earliest opportunity and bought a CB...

Saint - pack it in. You're basically licking Man U's balls to try and make your point more valid.

Where are your standards?

s@int wrote:

Judge wrote:

redbeergoggles wrote:at MY once glorious club

like MY illustrious club

isnt illustrious similar to glorius when talking about liverpool

which is it mate? you cant seem to make up your mind!


btw, liverpool is both glorious and illustrious, and is blasphemus to say otherwise.

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also, by refering to MY, its not your club you dont own it

  You never know his last name may be Hicks   

redbeergoggles wrote:

s@int wrote:

Judge wrote:

redbeergoggles wrote:at MY once glorious club

like MY illustrious club

isnt illustrious similar to glorius when talking about liverpool

which is it mate? you cant seem to make up your mind!


btw, liverpool is both glorious and illustrious, and is blasphemus to say otherwise.

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also, by refering to MY, its not your club you dont own it

  You never know his last name may be Hicks   

Only insecure people laugh at their own jokes, or lonely .

Give it a rest lad will yeh

Reg wrote:Hey bud, stick around as we need folks with fresh views to wipe away the accepted cobwebs of the past.

Change is good, it keeps us all alert.

redbeergoggles wrote:

Reg wrote:Hey bud, stick around as we need folks with fresh views to wipe away the accepted cobwebs of the past.

Change is good, it keeps us all alert.

There was a time when you could enter this forum and engage in an in depth discussion with  well informed fans ,but them days seem sadly behind us .
Thank you Reg, I can assure you I am going nowhere fella.

There was a time when people used to be able to disagree with one another and debate one another effectively without resorting to insults, baseless accusations or inane wind-ups.  Sadly, those days seem behind us now too.  If it's in-depth discussion you're after by all means proceed but if your intention is to cause a ruck at every turn you won't be missed. 

Bad Bob wrote:

redbeergoggles wrote:

Reg wrote:Hey bud, stick around as we need folks with fresh views to wipe away the accepted cobwebs of the past.

Change is good, it keeps us all alert.

There was a time when you could enter this forum and engage in an in depth discussion with  well informed fans ,but them days seem sadly behind us .
Thank you Reg, I can assure you I am going nowhere fella.

There was a time when people used to be able to disagree with one another and debate one another effectively without resorting to insults, baseless accusations or inane wind-ups.  Sadly, those days seem behind us now too.  If it's in-depth discussion you're after by all means proceed but if your intention is to cause a ruck at every turn you won't be missed. 

Rafa-Dodd wrote:I think people need to stop sniping at each other on this thread.

FWIW when I used to post about Rafa when he was getting a bit of stick on here, S@int used to be one of the first people to back Rafa up, so its not like he has come to this decision lightly, however much I don't agree with it.

Well said.

update the Rafa signature, mate </whisper> 

Rafa-Dodd wrote:Who he thinks that Rafa leaving would be a massive step backwards for Liverpool Football Club ?

His first 4 years here has been excellent and if you would of told me in 2004, he would get us to 2 Champions League finals - winning one, a F.A Cup win, and we would finish 11 points off the top and 9 points off the top I would of thought you were in dreamland.

If you look at the league in 2006/07 we finished 9 points off Chelsea, if we would of beat them home and away, we would of won the league. Same with United this season. I know we never put together a sustained league challenge but as Rafa says it all comes down to small details. Some will point out this is a fault of Rafa's  - " he should be winning them games, we always lose to United and Chelsea" etc. And I will once again point out that Chelsea and United have massively spent a lot more than Liverpool in the last 4 years. To the neutral they have better squads.

I then hear arguments about Rick Parry's comments about going for Rafa because he broke the monopoly of Barca and Real in Spain and he was brought he to do the same. Yes he was, valid point, I watched the same interview when Parry declared this on LFC.TV last night, but we need to give him the time to do this, Chelsea and United are better than anything Europe has to offer and the squads assembled at Old Trafford and Stamford Bridge are grudgingly phenomenal. But in the manager stakes we are a LOT better off than United and certainly Chelsea.

I think S@int mentioned about Ferguson taking 7 years to win a title but was challenging in 2, was Ferguson also storming through Europe making United feared and respected? Was Ferguson going to the famous Nou Camp and beating Spains best on their own patch? Was Fergie sending out a team with the tactical set up to knock out European Heavyweights like Juventus, Barcelona, Inter Milan? Did Fergie lead his team to Champions League Winners podium after the greatest comeback the game has ever seen? No.

Rafa is already down as Legend status in my book and a lot of other reds, give him time and he will deliever the goods, he has proved what he has to offer and I want plently more of that.


I know some will point to the fact - "Liverpool shouldn't be happy fighting it out for 4th". Well I will admit I wasn't around when we were fighting it out for the league season in, season out? I wasn't there when "second is nothing".

I was there when we old heavyweight on the ropes - my first game - a 1- 0 loss to Sheffield United in 1993/94. I grew up watching the end of Souness's stint as manager. I seen us get rebuilt with our own golden generation in the Evans era and just not quite make it, I seen us win the treble in 99 under the guidance of Ged and old big nose, I seen the decline of us when the board backed Ged and he set up back 4 -5 years in 2 seasons of bad signings - the next Zidane?!?!, the Sengegal duo?!? And I seen  a quietly confident reserved man called Rafa Benitez installed as manager, I was there as he took this great club back were it belonged and I am still here watching a great man do an excellent job.

We've been spoilt over the past 4 years. I feel very previledged to have watched us develop over the last four years and I think we will get better and better with Rafa at the helm.

Total agreement mate , top post.

Rafa-Dodd wrote:Who he thinks that Rafa leaving would be a massive step backwards for Liverpool Football Club ?

His first 4 years here has been excellent and if you would of told me in 2004, he would get us to 2 Champions League finals - winning one, a F.A Cup win, and we would finish 11 points off the top and 9 points off the top I would of thought you were in dreamland.

If you look at the league in 2006/07 we finished 9 points off Chelsea, if we would of beat them home and away, we would of won the league. Same with United this season. I know we never put together a sustained league challenge but as Rafa says it all comes down to small details. Some will point out this is a fault of Rafa's  - " he should be winning them games, we always lose to United and Chelsea" etc. And I will once again point out that Chelsea and United have massively spent a lot more than Liverpool in the last 4 years. To the neutral they have better squads.

I then hear arguments about Rick Parry's comments about going for Rafa because he broke the monopoly of Barca and Real in Spain and he was brought he to do the same. Yes he was, valid point, I watched the same interview when Parry declared this on LFC.TV last night, but we need to give him the time to do this, Chelsea and United are better than anything Europe has to offer and the squads assembled at Old Trafford and Stamford Bridge are grudgingly phenomenal. But in the manager stakes we are a LOT better off than United and certainly Chelsea.

I think S@int mentioned about Ferguson taking 7 years to win a title but was challenging in 2, was Ferguson also storming through Europe making United feared and respected? Was Ferguson going to the famous Nou Camp and beating Spains best on their own patch? Was Fergie sending out a team with the tactical set up to knock out European Heavyweights like Juventus, Barcelona, Inter Milan? Did Fergie lead his team to Champions League Winners podium after the greatest comeback the game has ever seen? No.

Rafa is already down as Legend status in my book and a lot of other reds, give him time and he will deliever the goods, he has proved what he has to offer and I want plently more of that.


I know some will point to the fact - "Liverpool shouldn't be happy fighting it out for 4th". Well I will admit I wasn't around when we were fighting it out for the league season in, season out? I wasn't there when "second is nothing".

I was there when we old heavyweight on the ropes - my first game - a 1- 0 loss to Sheffield United in 1993/94. I grew up watching the end of Souness's stint as manager. I seen us get rebuilt with our own golden generation in the Evans era and just not quite make it, I seen us win the treble in 99 under the guidance of Ged and old big nose, I seen the decline of us when the board backed Ged and he set up back 4 -5 years in 2 seasons of bad signings - the next Zidane?!?!, the Sengegal duo?!? And I seen  a quietly confident reserved man called Rafa Benitez installed as manager, I was there as he took this great club back were it belonged and I am still here watching a great man do an excellent job.

We've been spoilt over the past 4 years. I feel very previledged to have watched us develop over the last four years and I think we will get better and better with Rafa at the helm.