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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sun May 11, 2008 12:52 pm

Amazing !

The responsibilty of Rafa not signing the right players will be another excuse in the waiting if we dont sustain a serious title challenge next season. Its absolutely fair enough if the purse strings are tigtened, no doubt. But he has spent a vast vast amount of money on this squad down the years. And arguabley since the signing of Alonso Rafa's top siginings have been Torres and Mascha and it was funnily enough the Yanks that allowed both transfers to go through, so rather than praise Rafa for sighting them, do we give the Yanks a big fat pat on the back for signing them then ?
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Postby JC_81 » Sun May 11, 2008 1:01 pm

Milner??  Jesus.
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Postby Bad Bob » Sun May 11, 2008 1:05 pm

Yes, well done to Hicks and Gillett for buying us Torres and Masch--credit where it's due, those were two fantastic signings that they sanctioned.  But, my point, Bamaga Man, is that there is no assurance that the Yanks will give Rafa anywhere near the kind of money that landed us Torres and Masch when it comes to transfers this summer.  For one, they're a bit strapped...as Hicks's hat-in-hand visit to every bank in London at the time of the Arsenal matches surely indicates.  For two, they fooking loath each other now and are thus likely in no position to set aside differences and collectively sanction the funds Rafa needs to buy top quality players (which, you'll agree, is what are needed).  I think it's far more likely that they'd batter each other in the press ("I wanted to give Rafer the funds to buy Henri, Villa and Joaquin but he blocked it in the board room...") than it is that they work together to get big money transfers done.  No, unless they sell up soon I predict it will be a summer of selling before we buy, with a series of rather modest transfer targets in our sights.
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun May 11, 2008 1:05 pm

john craig wrote:Milner??  Jesus.

I don't think he will be our saviour John  :D
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Postby JC_81 » Sun May 11, 2008 1:09 pm

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john craig wrote:Milner??  Jesus.

I don't think he will be our saviour John  :D

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I'll say it again though, Milner??
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 11, 2008 1:11 pm

s@int wrote:Crouch set to say 'bye, buy Kop'

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By Dave Kidd

Peter Crouch is considering buying out the final year of his Liverpool contract and moving abroad to avoid another year on the Anfield bench.

The England striker is furious that Kop boss Rafa Benitez has slapped a £15million price tag on his head, despite rarely featuring in his first-team plans.

Now Crouch, 27, is weighing up the option of becoming the first high-profile English player to buy out his own contract - a move which would cost him around £3m.

Under FIFA-adopted EU law, that would mean Crouch becoming a free agent. He would not be able to join another English club, but a foreign club could secure his services for nothing and give him a big wage rise and signing-on fee.

Crouch's representatives will meet Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry this week and still hope the club will allow Crouch to move for far less than £15m as he has only one year left on his contract.

Parry is said to be embarrassed by Benitez's claims that Liverpool want £15m for the player. It is believed that Benitez's public claims that Crouch has been offered a new Anfield contract, but refused to sign it, are also incorrect.

Portsmouth remain front runners to sign Crouch but Aston Villa are also interested along with Spanish club Villarreal.
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If Crouch does buy out his contract there is only one person to blame and its NOT Crouch. Crouch has been poorly treated this season IMO and maybe its something you shouldn't do when someone is running down their contract.

Disagree saint , crouch needs to show a bit of respect to the man that bought him and kept faith in him when he was being called a freak and how many games was it before he scored in his first season 17 or 18 wasn't it. Who was the manager taking all the flak for playing him and for buying him . Crouch needs to remember these things , he's got to knuckle down and proove rafa wrong , or feck off and let his career go down hill from here on in , because it will once he leaves .
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 11, 2008 1:13 pm

Bamaga man wrote:Amazing !

The responsibilty of Rafa not signing the right players will be another excuse in the waiting if we dont sustain a serious title challenge next season. Its absolutely fair enough if the purse strings are tigtened, no doubt. But he has spent a vast vast amount of money on this squad down the years. And arguabley since the signing of Alonso Rafa's top siginings have been Torres and Mascha and it was funnily enough the Yanks that allowed both transfers to go through, so rather than praise Rafa for sighting them, do we give the Yanks a big fat pat on the back for signing them then ?

No the yanks deserve nothing but contempt
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun May 11, 2008 1:28 pm

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s@int wrote:Crouch set to say 'bye, buy Kop'

EXCLUSIVE

By Dave Kidd

Peter Crouch is considering buying out the final year of his Liverpool contract and moving abroad to avoid another year on the Anfield bench.

The England striker is furious that Kop boss Rafa Benitez has slapped a £15million price tag on his head, despite rarely featuring in his first-team plans.

Now Crouch, 27, is weighing up the option of becoming the first high-profile English player to buy out his own contract - a move which would cost him around £3m.

Under FIFA-adopted EU law, that would mean Crouch becoming a free agent. He would not be able to join another English club, but a foreign club could secure his services for nothing and give him a big wage rise and signing-on fee.

Crouch's representatives will meet Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry this week and still hope the club will allow Crouch to move for far less than £15m as he has only one year left on his contract.

Parry is said to be embarrassed by Benitez's claims that Liverpool want £15m for the player. It is believed that Benitez's public claims that Crouch has been offered a new Anfield contract, but refused to sign it, are also incorrect.

Portsmouth remain front runners to sign Crouch but Aston Villa are also interested along with Spanish club Villarreal.
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If Crouch does buy out his contract there is only one person to blame and its NOT Crouch. Crouch has been poorly treated this season IMO and maybe its something you shouldn't do when someone is running down their contract.

Disagree saint , crouch needs to show a bit of respect to the man that bought him and kept faith in him when he was being called a freak and how many games was it before he scored in his first season 17 or 18 wasn't it. Who was the manager taking all the flak for playing him and for buying him . Crouch needs to remember these things , he's got to knuckle down and proove rafa wrong , or feck off and let his career go down hill from here on in , because it will once he leaves .

What more could he do than he has done this season when given the chance Igor? You can't prove yourself if you are not even on the bench mate.

Maybe the fact Rafa played him when he first signed him even though Crouch wasn't scoring, was more about proving himself right than supporting Crouch?

Certainly he hardly seemed to be "supportive" of Crouch last season, and this season I think Crouch has been badly treated. 3RD or even 4TH choice behind Kuyt and Voronin? (Kuyt has only moved to the wing recently )

To me he seems to have done a similar job with Crouch to what he did with Cisse, only this time Crouch's contract only has a year to run.

I just think once Rafa takes a dislike to you for whatever reason you are better off packing your bags the same day mate. Look at LeTallec..... upset Rafa by asking to go on loan, never been seen alive since!

Players are more than pieces on a chessboard, and if Rafa has a major failing its that he seems to treat players as if they are just pawns.
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Postby JoeTerp » Sun May 11, 2008 3:33 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Yes, well done to Hicks and Gillett for buying us Torres and Masch--credit where it's due, those were two fantastic signings that they sanctioned.  But, my point, Bamaga Man, is that there is no assurance that the Yanks will give Rafa anywhere near the kind of money that landed us Torres and Masch when it comes to transfers this summer.  For one, they're a bit strapped...as Hicks's hat-in-hand visit to every bank in London at the time of the Arsenal matches surely indicates.  For two, they fooking loath each other now and are thus likely in no position to set aside differences and collectively sanction the funds Rafa needs to buy top quality players (which, you'll agree, is what are needed).  I think it's far more likely that they'd batter each other in the press ("I wanted to give Rafer the funds to buy Henri, Villa and Joaquin but he blocked it in the board room...") than it is that they work together to get big money transfers done.  No, unless they sell up soon I predict it will be a summer of selling before we buy, with a series of rather modest transfer targets in our sights.

Even if that is the case, Rafa should still take the mindset of less  is more regardless of how much cash he has at his disposal. Go big or go home. Surely right now its all speculation, but some of the players we have been linked to surely do not fit the go big or go home montra that most fans want to see. He still has enough horses in the stable to make himself enough profit to get one player of the Torres calibre, and that is w/o selling Alonso.
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Sun May 11, 2008 4:13 pm

I read in todays papers and herad reports on the radio that Mwanck Uted are interested in Owen  :D

Rafa needs to hold onto Xabi (hope he stays anyway), but if as suspected that Mascher and Lucus go off to play for their respective countries in the Olympics, then we'll be short in midfield.
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Postby JoeTerp » Sun May 11, 2008 4:38 pm

Kash_Mountain wrote:Rafa needs to hold onto Xabi (hope he stays anyway), but if as suspected that Mascher and Lucus go off to play for their respective countries in the Olympics, then we'll be short in midfield.

I want Xabi to stay as well, but even if he left, during those 3 weeks we would have Gerrard, Plessis, Guthrie, and possibly Gareth Barry still at the club, so I think we could make due as long as the schedule favored us
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Sun May 11, 2008 5:01 pm

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Kash_Mountain wrote:Rafa needs to hold onto Xabi (hope he stays anyway), but if as suspected that Mascher and Lucus go off to play for their respective countries in the Olympics, then we'll be short in midfield.

I want Xabi to stay as well, but even if he left, during those 3 weeks we would have Gerrard, Plessis, Guthrie, and possibly Gareth Barry still at the club, so I think we could make due as long as the schedule favored us

I know what you mean Joe, though the experience of Xabi would be  to our advantage.  But then again if Plessis and Guthrie step up to the plate and can deliver in the vital opening games then that' excellent.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun May 11, 2008 7:23 pm

Ah im distraught my mates just phoned me from Madrid and there reporting on Madridtv that Xabi has a agreement with them Gutted.

He wasnt even on the bench today does anyone know why or any news about it.

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Postby Toffeehater » Sun May 11, 2008 7:45 pm

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NANNY RED wrote:Looks like the gooners are gonna crumble Kleb has said he wants to go.

Fantastic player and if he leaves they will find it very hard to replace him

Hope they don't replace him with Ben Arfa, he has the potential to be a much better player than him.

Plus the fact that we were supposedly after Ben Arfa. By the time Rick has found his phone, remembered how to switch it on, realised it needs charging up and phoned them, he will probably have already played a couple of games for Arsenal

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He's a cracking little player but no where near hleb , we should get hleb
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Postby Number 9 » Sun May 11, 2008 7:50 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Ah im distraught my mates just phoned me from Madrid and there reporting on Madridtv that Xabi has a agreement with them Gutted.

He wasnt even on the bench today does anyone know why or any news about it.

Sabs were are you when i need you

Any idea how much they are talking nanny?Or maybe a swap?
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