Big Niall wrote:Relgion is a con used to get the superstitious to die for nothing but the gain of wealth by the powerful.
Thats not religion
Thats politics, humanity use religion as an excuse.
Big Niall wrote:I have a deep hatred of religion.
They all preach that only their believers will go to heaven "or whatever their one's reward is e.g. good reincarnation" and that people that dont' follow will go to hell - don't question!
The church for centuries made no attempt to spread literacy as illiterates are easier to rule, they persuaded the poor to give 10% of their tiny earnings to the church to help them go to heaven, the church then build huge buildings which looked down on the village as a constant reminder to the locals who was in power. They also basically sold forgiveness and entry to heaven.
It was a total shakedown.
Before Christianity, other religions had their own gods which rewarded soldiers who died in battle.
Relgion is a con used to get the superstitious to die for nothing but the gain of wealth by the powerful.
dawson99 wrote:Big Niall wrote:I have a deep hatred of religion.
They all preach that only their believers will go to heaven "or whatever their one's reward is e.g. good reincarnation" and that people that dont' follow will go to hell - don't question!
The church for centuries made no attempt to spread literacy as illiterates are easier to rule, they persuaded the poor to give 10% of their tiny earnings to the church to help them go to heaven, the church then build huge buildings which looked down on the village as a constant reminder to the locals who was in power. They also basically sold forgiveness and entry to heaven.
It was a total shakedown.
Before Christianity, other religions had their own gods which rewarded soldiers who died in battle.
Relgion is a con used to get the superstitious to die for nothing but the gain of wealth by the powerful.
big difference between religion and faith tho. religion is what uses the masses for wars and death, faith is used and always has, before churches were built people believed, and there is nothing wrong with that.
having beliefs or following religion is a good thing in my opinion but as with everything in life the few spoil it for the many.
when i think of christianity i dont think of the church, i dnot go to church but i still have faith and beliefs so really i think to hate religion is one thing, but you cant hate that people believe.
metalhead wrote:Big Niall wrote:Relgion is a con used to get the superstitious to die for nothing but the gain of wealth by the powerful.
Thats not religion
Thats politics, humanity use religion as an excuse.
Judge wrote:metalhead wrote:Big Niall wrote:Relgion is a con used to get the superstitious to die for nothing but the gain of wealth by the powerful.
Thats not religion
Thats politics, humanity use religion as an excuse.
theres a fine line between politics and religion, whereas faith is totally seperate.
for thousands of years religion was politics, then there was a lull as the commoners tried to seperate that from religion by installing democratically elected governments, now the religion/politics thing is starting to emerge as one again.
if we look at recent conflicts, it is impossible to argue that religion isnt the fire behind war. In fact, its probably always been the case, just hidden very well.
the current war on terror is fuelled by fanatics bent on religious destruction.
7_Kewell wrote:Big Niall wrote:I have a deep hatred of religion.
They all preach that only their believers will go to heaven "or whatever their one's reward is e.g. good reincarnation" and that people that dont' follow will go to hell - don't question!
The church for centuries made no attempt to spread literacy as illiterates are easier to rule, they persuaded the poor to give 10% of their tiny earnings to the church to help them go to heaven, the church then build huge buildings which looked down on the village as a constant reminder to the locals who was in power. They also basically sold forgiveness and entry to heaven.
It was a total shakedown.
Before Christianity, other religions had their own gods which rewarded soldiers who died in battle.
Relgion is a con used to get the superstitious to die for nothing but the gain of wealth by the powerful.
great post.
dawson99 wrote:Big Niall wrote:I have a deep hatred of religion.
They all preach that only their believers will go to heaven "or whatever their one's reward is e.g. good reincarnation" and that people that dont' follow will go to hell - don't question!
The church for centuries made no attempt to spread literacy as illiterates are easier to rule, they persuaded the poor to give 10% of their tiny earnings to the church to help them go to heaven, the church then build huge buildings which looked down on the village as a constant reminder to the locals who was in power. They also basically sold forgiveness and entry to heaven.
It was a total shakedown.
Before Christianity, other religions had their own gods which rewarded soldiers who died in battle.
Relgion is a con used to get the superstitious to die for nothing but the gain of wealth by the powerful.
big difference between religion and faith tho. religion is what uses the masses for wars and death, faith is used and always has, before churches were built people believed, and there is nothing wrong with that.
having beliefs or following religion is a good thing in my opinion but as with everything in life the few spoil it for the many.
when i think of christianity i dont think of the church, i dnot go to church but i still have faith and beliefs so really i think to hate religion is one thing, but you cant hate that people believe.
Emerald Red wrote:Religion helps people in their own way. Some people can be going through a bad time and their religion can get them trough it.
Judge wrote:agreed niall.
however, the oil grab. Hussain made a mistake by lighting all of kuwaits oil terminals, thus burning off millions of gallons of oil. that was NOT our or the US' fault. So i say, that it is arguable that oil played a roll in a declaration of war, it wasnt the sole reason for it. Hussain needed to be removed, that is clear. And if it preserves oil reserves then that was a bonus for the world economy. Im sure you'll agree to that.
I do know you have anti-american thoughts niall, and thats your right, but i do feel the sole reason for intervention was to remove that despot and preserve Iraq's future for a valuable export in oil. It served world interest, and i think has kept oil prices rising alot slower than it would now, if hussain was still in place.
Mind you i aint happy at paying 117p per litre of diesel though
The Manhattan Project wrote:I've got no problem with people having religion because it brings them comfort.
I only take issue with religious people when they do any of the following:
1- Try to mix their religion with government and law.
2- Try to use their religion to meddle with scientific advances.
3- Try to make their religious mythology on an equal par with scientific theories
4- Use their religion to justify government actions.
5- Try to impose their religion on those who do not share their beliefs.
6- Use their religion to justify acts of criminality and/or violence.
GOAT wrote:Emerald Red wrote:Religion helps people in their own way. Some people can be going through a bad time and their religion can get them trough it.
Aye weak people who cant handle things themselves, wanting some crazy higher power to help them out lol
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