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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:15 am

greenred wrote:I never realised you were a scouser,you never struck me as one.I always thought you was a southerner for some reason.Anyway,no problem.

One thing though,when i mention the English i aint talking about scousers.

Scousers are a whole level above the English.

:D  Fair enough.

(btw, spent last 40 years movin' around , mainly africa and south east asia , but was born in Liverpool and dragged up in Birkenhead. :) )
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Postby greenred » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:33 am

No problem Woof,your a good guy and i love reading your posts.

I meant what i said about scousers btw.They are a breed apart and look on life in a different way to your average Anglo-Saxon.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:58 am

greenred wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
greenred wrote:Ireland was a part of Britain for eight hundred years.We got nothing out of the deal cos we were a different form of Christianity.They stripped us of our wealth,our culture,our language,our pride.They treated us like scum,and they left us with nothing but bitterness.

???

Yeah GreenRed ,all us english lived like kings on the wealth , culture , language and pride we stripped you of . Even when living on bread and drippin' , stuffin' cardboard into my shoes to fill the holes in the soles and sleepin' with overcoats on the bed thru the winter I remember thinkin' thank christ we took all that stuff from the Irish or we'd really be f'ucked .

Back in the 50' I often heard Liverpool referred to as the "capital of Ireland" , every street had Irish people living in it . Two of my aunties married Irish fella's . Cut a scouser deep enough and you'll find some Irish in there .Understand your bitterness but on this site especially I'd appreciate it if us scousers weren't included in your reference to "They" .



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I do'nt get your point Woof.

Half the scousers i ever met have Irish background.

The other half are educated enough to know how the English shi.t on the paddys anyway.

I never realised you were a scouser,you never struck me as one.I always thought you was a southerner for some reason.Anyway,no problem.

One thing though,when i mention the English i aint talking about scousers.

Scousers are a whole level above the English.

Something tells me you have issues.

Were the "English" not ruled by the Romans? The history of the Earth is of civilasations conquering the weaker legions. It is how the World has developed. What about Spain's attempt to conquer Britain? Napoleon? The Greek? How about the Egyptians? Just because Britain happened to be the best at wars due to the timing of the Industrial Revolution, surely you can't single us out from the rest?

Ireland was treated very badly by the Monarchy of Britain, but the British also introduced many good things to Ireland as well, and as you point out - you're better off now anyway.

I just think it's a bit silly to insult me and other non-Scouse English folk over something that you yourself admitted happened over 800 years ago. There'd be uproar if I said "The Irish are all...blah blah blah"

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Postby greenred » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:18 am

Ireland was treated very badly by the Monarchy of Britain, but the British also introduced many good things to Ireland as well, and as you point out - you're better off now anyway.

I just think it's a bit silly to insult me and other non-Scouse English folk over something that you yourself admitted happened over 800 years ago. There'd be uproar if I said "The Irish are all...blah blah blah"

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Lando.....keep out of it

No "issues" Lando.

Im not English.

None of it happened 800 years ago.Its still happening today.

How would you feel if the Germans occupied a fair bit of your country?

Would you fight or would you rollover?

I think i know the answer.
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:24 am

To be fair Lando ,for a thousand years up until the end of WW2 it was the aristocracy that shaped our outlook and attitude towards the world ,as a nation we treated what we regarded as inferior nations like sh'ite . I do however get a bit defensive about our history as 80% of English people were also treated like sh'ite by our own ruling classes .

Just like the Germans , we weren't all nazi's   :D  :D  :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:28 am

greenred wrote:Im Irish Sabre and not sure if you want my opinion,but i'll give it to you anyway.

Ireland was a part of Britain for eight hundred years.We got nothing out of the deal cos we were a different form of Christianity.They stripped us of our wealth,our culture,our language,our pride.They treated us like scum,and they left us with nothing but bitterness.

We joined the European Union in 1973 and we are now one of the top five richest country on earth.


The EU has been good to Ireland.

What you must try to realise is if it hadnt been Britain it would have been some other c*nts. At least we protected you from invasion by all the other avaricious countries out there. No doubt we extracted a heavy price for this protection but then again I expect the Angles, the Saxons, Romans,the Danes,Norwegians, the Vikings, the Normans and the French all did the same here when they invaded England. But we don't hold a grudge.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:40 am

Back on topic, anyway (Sorry Sabre), I am definately AGAINST our being a part of the "EU".

In it's original format, it was all about trade. Fair enough. I don't mind swapping our apples for their Tangerines, etc.

The f*cking political, socail and geographical MONSTER it has now become needs taking out back and shooting through the skull.

Both of my Grandad's fought in the Second World War to keep this country from foreign rule, and I'm f*cking DAMN sure I don't want our sovreignity handed over to our historical enemies on a plate.

Let's look at what they say:

The EU's propaganda states it will:

Improve life for it's member states,

Make travel easier between member states, and,

Harmonize the members' tax and the cost of goods.

Bullsh*t.

Now, let's try a different angle - let's look at the FACTS:

Since Britain signed up for this International love-in, we have been subjected to obscenely pathetic laws, whereby Butchers face jail for selling their meat in lbs and oz, rather than the European "g and kg".

We are not allowed to buy tomatoes which do not conform to the EU's idea of how a tomato should be. They even measured them.

Bananas cannot be too bent, nor too straight.

We must pay extra tax to fund some gimpish improvements to Countries such as Poland, while our own NHS gets constantly sh*gged up the ar*e by Brussels and it's whores.

So. Let's compare the actual list to that of the EU lie:

EU says: "We will improve the life of Member states".

WHat they actually mean: "Drop-outs living in sh*thole countries - don't dispair!!! The money we've syphoned from the dickheads in Britain will soon buy you a new home!!!"

EU says: "It will make travel easier between member states."

What they actually mean: "Still not happy at your new home? F*ck it! Leave your sh*t-encrusted hell-hole and move to Britain!
Can't find work? Like the idea of getting a house and weekly money for being the idle, druggie piece of Eastern sh*t you are? - Move to Britain!

Want cosmetic surgery paid for by some unwitting pushovers? - Move to Britain!

Got a criminal record? Want to make a living stealing things, with no chance of arrest? - Move to Britain!

Want to have the freedom to act like an animal with no recriminations? - Move to Britain.

Want to travel the World? - Sorry, you can't. Move to Britain instead.


EU says it will: "Harmonize tax and the cost of goods throughout the Union".

What it actually means: "Everyone get's cheaper goods except Britian! Tax? - Let's hammer Britain! Petrol? - Let's have cheap petrol while Britain pays through the nose for hers.

Only Belgium, Holland, Norway and Denmark pay more for their fuel than we do.

France and Germany? They're laughing at us. Two Countries without a single oil field between them, and they're laughing at US.

Well Sabre - to answer your question - no. I f*cking HATE the EU, and pray daily that the entire constitution gets torn up, and we just trade with the other countires.

I tell you this:

The day we give up Sterling is the day I emmigrate to Canada.

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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:45 am

greenred wrote:Ireland was treated very badly by the Monarchy of Britain, but the British also introduced many good things to Ireland as well, and as you point out - you're better off now anyway.

I just think it's a bit silly to insult me and other non-Scouse English folk over something that you yourself admitted happened over 800 years ago. There'd be uproar if I said "The Irish are all...blah blah blah"

:no

Lando.....keep out of it

No "issues" Lando.

Im not English.

None of it happened 800 years ago.Its still happening today.

How would you feel if the Germans occupied a fair bit of your country?

Would you fight or would you rollover?

I think i know the answer.

Keep out of it? Sorry - did you PM Woof, or did you post your thoughts on a public forum?

Do you honestly believe we still rule the Republic of Ireland? Northern Ireland remained part of the UK by their own choosing.

BTW - DO you support/agree with the IRA? They sneak around like cowards, planting bombs and murdering thousands for some political ideal that will never happen.

Had Germany invaded us, I wouldn't be here. Nor would you.

Getting the a*se on with the English when all the protagonists are long-dead is PATHETIC.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:48 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:Back on topic, anyway (Sorry Sabre), I am definately AGAINST our being a part of the "EU".

In it's original format, it was all about trade. Fair enough. I don't mind swapping our apples for their Tangerines, etc.

The f*cking political, socail and geographical MONSTER it has now become needs taking out back and shooting through the skull.

Both of my Grandad's fought in the Second World War to keep this country from foreign rule, and I'm f*cking DAMN sure I don't want our sovreignity handed over to our historical enemies on a plate.

Let's look at what they say:

The EU's propaganda states it will:

Improve life for it's member states,

Make travel easier between member states, and,

Harmonize the members' tax and the cost of goods.

Bullsh*t.

Now, let's try a different angle - let's look at the FACTS:

Since Britain signed up for this International love-in, we have been subjected to obscenely pathetic laws, whereby Butchers face jail for selling their meat in lbs and oz, rather than the European "g and kg".

We are not allowed to buy tomatoes which do not conform to the EU's idea of how a tomato should be. They even measured them.

Bananas cannot be too bent, nor too straight.

We must pay extra tax to fund some gimpish improvements to Countries such as Poland, while our own NHS gets constantly sh*gged up the ar*e by Brussels and it's whores.

So. Let's compare the actual list to that of the EU lie:

EU says: "We will improve the life of Member states".

WHat they actually mean: "Drop-outs living in sh*thole countries - don't dispair!!! The money we've syphoned from the dickheads in Britain will soon buy you a new home!!!"

EU says: "It will make travel easier between member states."

What they actually mean: "Still not happy at your new home? F*ck it! Leave your sh*t-encrusted hell-hole and move to Britain!
Can't find work? Like the idea of getting a house and weekly money for being the idle, druggie piece of Eastern sh*t you are? - Move to Britain!

Want cosmetic surgery paid for by some unwitting pushovers? - Move to Britain!

Got a criminal record? Want to make a living stealing things, with no chance of arrest? - Move to Britain!

Want to have the freedom to act like an animal with no recriminations? - Move to Britain.

Want to travel the World? - Sorry, you can't. Move to Britain instead.


EU says it will: "Harmonize tax and the cost of goods throughout the Union".

What it actually means: "Everyone get's cheaper goods except Britian! Tax? - Let's hammer Britain! Petrol? - Let's have cheap petrol while Britain pays through the nose for hers.

Only Belgium, Holland, Norway and Denmark pay more for their fuel than we do.

France and Germany? They're laughing at us. Two Countries without a single oil field between them, and they're laughing at US.

Well Sabre - to answer your question - no. I f*cking HATE the EU, and pray daily that the entire constitution gets torn up, and we just trade with the other countires.

I tell you this:

The day we give up Sterling is the day I emmigrate to Canada.

:angry:

Elequently put Lando
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:50 am

s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Back on topic, anyway (Sorry Sabre), I am definately AGAINST our being a part of the "EU".

In it's original format, it was all about trade. Fair enough. I don't mind swapping our apples for their Tangerines, etc.

The f*cking political, socail and geographical MONSTER it has now become needs taking out back and shooting through the skull.

Both of my Grandad's fought in the Second World War to keep this country from foreign rule, and I'm f*cking DAMN sure I don't want our sovreignity handed over to our historical enemies on a plate.

Let's look at what they say:

The EU's propaganda states it will:

Improve life for it's member states,

Make travel easier between member states, and,

Harmonize the members' tax and the cost of goods.

Bullsh*t.

Now, let's try a different angle - let's look at the FACTS:

Since Britain signed up for this International love-in, we have been subjected to obscenely pathetic laws, whereby Butchers face jail for selling their meat in lbs and oz, rather than the European "g and kg".

We are not allowed to buy tomatoes which do not conform to the EU's idea of how a tomato should be. They even measured them.

Bananas cannot be too bent, nor too straight.

We must pay extra tax to fund some gimpish improvements to Countries such as Poland, while our own NHS gets constantly sh*gged up the ar*e by Brussels and it's whores.

So. Let's compare the actual list to that of the EU lie:

EU says: "We will improve the life of Member states".

WHat they actually mean: "Drop-outs living in sh*thole countries - don't dispair!!! The money we've syphoned from the dickheads in Britain will soon buy you a new home!!!"

EU says: "It will make travel easier between member states."

What they actually mean: "Still not happy at your new home? F*ck it! Leave your sh*t-encrusted hell-hole and move to Britain!
Can't find work? Like the idea of getting a house and weekly money for being the idle, druggie piece of Eastern sh*t you are? - Move to Britain!

Want cosmetic surgery paid for by some unwitting pushovers? - Move to Britain!

Got a criminal record? Want to make a living stealing things, with no chance of arrest? - Move to Britain!

Want to have the freedom to act like an animal with no recriminations? - Move to Britain.

Want to travel the World? - Sorry, you can't. Move to Britain instead.


EU says it will: "Harmonize tax and the cost of goods throughout the Union".

What it actually means: "Everyone get's cheaper goods except Britian! Tax? - Let's hammer Britain! Petrol? - Let's have cheap petrol while Britain pays through the nose for hers.

Only Belgium, Holland, Norway and Denmark pay more for their fuel than we do.

France and Germany? They're laughing at us. Two Countries without a single oil field between them, and they're laughing at US.

Well Sabre - to answer your question - no. I f*cking HATE the EU, and pray daily that the entire constitution gets torn up, and we just trade with the other countires.

I tell you this:

The day we give up Sterling is the day I emmigrate to Canada.

:angry:

Elequently put Lando

:D

I HATE the idea of the FRench ruling us. I'd pick any developed country on Earth before those spineless, welching, idle b*stards. :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:58 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Back on topic, anyway (Sorry Sabre), I am definately AGAINST our being a part of the "EU".

In it's original format, it was all about trade. Fair enough. I don't mind swapping our apples for their Tangerines, etc.

The f*cking political, socail and geographical MONSTER it has now become needs taking out back and shooting through the skull.

Both of my Grandad's fought in the Second World War to keep this country from foreign rule, and I'm f*cking DAMN sure I don't want our sovreignity handed over to our historical enemies on a plate.

Let's look at what they say:

The EU's propaganda states it will:

Improve life for it's member states,

Make travel easier between member states, and,

Harmonize the members' tax and the cost of goods.

Bullsh*t.

Now, let's try a different angle - let's look at the FACTS:

Since Britain signed up for this International love-in, we have been subjected to obscenely pathetic laws, whereby Butchers face jail for selling their meat in lbs and oz, rather than the European "g and kg".

We are not allowed to buy tomatoes which do not conform to the EU's idea of how a tomato should be. They even measured them.

Bananas cannot be too bent, nor too straight.

We must pay extra tax to fund some gimpish improvements to Countries such as Poland, while our own NHS gets constantly sh*gged up the ar*e by Brussels and it's whores.

So. Let's compare the actual list to that of the EU lie:

EU says: "We will improve the life of Member states".

WHat they actually mean: "Drop-outs living in sh*thole countries - don't dispair!!! The money we've syphoned from the dickheads in Britain will soon buy you a new home!!!"

EU says: "It will make travel easier between member states."

What they actually mean: "Still not happy at your new home? F*ck it! Leave your sh*t-encrusted hell-hole and move to Britain!
Can't find work? Like the idea of getting a house and weekly money for being the idle, druggie piece of Eastern sh*t you are? - Move to Britain!

Want cosmetic surgery paid for by some unwitting pushovers? - Move to Britain!

Got a criminal record? Want to make a living stealing things, with no chance of arrest? - Move to Britain!

Want to have the freedom to act like an animal with no recriminations? - Move to Britain.

Want to travel the World? - Sorry, you can't. Move to Britain instead.


EU says it will: "Harmonize tax and the cost of goods throughout the Union".

What it actually means: "Everyone get's cheaper goods except Britian! Tax? - Let's hammer Britain! Petrol? - Let's have cheap petrol while Britain pays through the nose for hers.

Only Belgium, Holland, Norway and Denmark pay more for their fuel than we do.

France and Germany? They're laughing at us. Two Countries without a single oil field between them, and they're laughing at US.

Well Sabre - to answer your question - no. I f*cking HATE the EU, and pray daily that the entire constitution gets torn up, and we just trade with the other countires.

I tell you this:

The day we give up Sterling is the day I emmigrate to Canada.

:angry:

Elequently put Lando

:D

I HATE the idea of the FRench ruling us. I'd pick any developed country on Earth before those spineless, welching, idle b*stards. :D

I think your being a little unfair there Lando after all they did invent the chip (French fry)  :D
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:01 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:Back on topic, anyway (Sorry Sabre), I am definately AGAINST our being a part of the "EU".

In it's original format, it was all about trade. Fair enough. I don't mind swapping our apples for their Tangerines, etc.

The f*cking political, socail and geographical MONSTER it has now become needs taking out back and shooting through the skull.

Both of my Grandad's fought in the Second World War to keep this country from foreign rule, and I'm f*cking DAMN sure I don't want our sovreignity handed over to our historical enemies on a plate.

Let's look at what they say:

The EU's propaganda states it will:

Improve life for it's member states,

Make travel easier between member states, and,

Harmonize the members' tax and the cost of goods.

Bullsh*t.

Now, let's try a different angle - let's look at the FACTS:

Since Britain signed up for this International love-in, we have been subjected to obscenely pathetic laws, whereby Butchers face jail for selling their meat in lbs and oz, rather than the European "g and kg".

We are not allowed to buy tomatoes which do not conform to the EU's idea of how a tomato should be. They even measured them.

Bananas cannot be too bent, nor too straight.

We must pay extra tax to fund some gimpish improvements to Countries such as Poland, while our own NHS gets constantly sh*gged up the ar*e by Brussels and it's whores.

So. Let's compare the actual list to that of the EU lie:

EU says: "We will improve the life of Member states".

WHat they actually mean: "Drop-outs living in sh*thole countries - don't dispair!!! The money we've syphoned from the dickheads in Britain will soon buy you a new home!!!"

EU says: "It will make travel easier between member states."

What they actually mean: "Still not happy at your new home? F*ck it! Leave your sh*t-encrusted hell-hole and move to Britain!
Can't find work? Like the idea of getting a house and weekly money for being the idle, druggie piece of Eastern sh*t you are? - Move to Britain!

Want cosmetic surgery paid for by some unwitting pushovers? - Move to Britain!

Got a criminal record? Want to make a living stealing things, with no chance of arrest? - Move to Britain!

Want to have the freedom to act like an animal with no recriminations? - Move to Britain.

Want to travel the World? - Sorry, you can't. Move to Britain instead.


EU says it will: "Harmonize tax and the cost of goods throughout the Union".

What it actually means: "Everyone get's cheaper goods except Britian! Tax? - Let's hammer Britain! Petrol? - Let's have cheap petrol while Britain pays through the nose for hers.

Only Belgium, Holland, Norway and Denmark pay more for their fuel than we do.

France and Germany? They're laughing at us. Two Countries without a single oil field between them, and they're laughing at US.

Well Sabre - to answer your question - no. I f*cking HATE the EU, and pray daily that the entire constitution gets torn up, and we just trade with the other countires.

I tell you this:

The day we give up Sterling is the day I emmigrate to Canada.

:angry:

:laugh:   :laugh:   :laugh:

Don't agree with much of that Lando , but it does sometimes feel that way . 

We do seem to pussyfoot around and get taken for a ride by virtually everyone.

I remember the case of the Afghans who hijacked a plane ,flew to England after stopping to refuel in Russia then flew on over most of western europe , landed here and claimed political asylum . We were then told we couldn't throw them out !

Sh'it like that makes my blood boil.
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Postby greenred » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:04 am

s@int wrote:
greenred wrote:Im Irish Sabre and not sure if you want my opinion,but i'll give it to you anyway.

Ireland was a part of Britain for eight hundred years.We got nothing out of the deal cos we were a different form of Christianity.They stripped us of our wealth,our culture,our language,our pride.They treated us like scum,and they left us with nothing but bitterness.

We joined the European Union in 1973 and we are now one of the top five richest country on earth.


The EU has been good to Ireland.

What you must try to realise is if it hadnt been Britain it would have been some other c*nts. At least we protected you from invasion by all the other avaricious countries out there. No doubt we extracted a heavy price for this protection but then again I expect the Angles, the Saxons, Romans,the Danes,Norwegians, the Vikings, the Normans and the French all did the same here when they invaded England. But we don't hold a grudge.

They didn't stick it on you for eight hundred years.

How would you feel if your part of England belonged to Germany?....would you fight or would you lay down your arms?
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:05 am

woof woof ! wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Back on topic, anyway (Sorry Sabre), I am definately AGAINST our being a part of the "EU".

In it's original format, it was all about trade. Fair enough. I don't mind swapping our apples for their Tangerines, etc.

The f*cking political, socail and geographical MONSTER it has now become needs taking out back and shooting through the skull.

Both of my Grandad's fought in the Second World War to keep this country from foreign rule, and I'm f*cking DAMN sure I don't want our sovreignity handed over to our historical enemies on a plate.

Let's look at what they say:

The EU's propaganda states it will:

Improve life for it's member states,

Make travel easier between member states, and,

Harmonize the members' tax and the cost of goods.

Bullsh*t.

Now, let's try a different angle - let's look at the FACTS:

Since Britain signed up for this International love-in, we have been subjected to obscenely pathetic laws, whereby Butchers face jail for selling their meat in lbs and oz, rather than the European "g and kg".

We are not allowed to buy tomatoes which do not conform to the EU's idea of how a tomato should be. They even measured them.

Bananas cannot be too bent, nor too straight.

We must pay extra tax to fund some gimpish improvements to Countries such as Poland, while our own NHS gets constantly sh*gged up the ar*e by Brussels and it's whores.

So. Let's compare the actual list to that of the EU lie:

EU says: "We will improve the life of Member states".

WHat they actually mean: "Drop-outs living in sh*thole countries - don't dispair!!! The money we've syphoned from the dickheads in Britain will soon buy you a new home!!!"

EU says: "It will make travel easier between member states."

What they actually mean: "Still not happy at your new home? F*ck it! Leave your sh*t-encrusted hell-hole and move to Britain!
Can't find work? Like the idea of getting a house and weekly money for being the idle, druggie piece of Eastern sh*t you are? - Move to Britain!

Want cosmetic surgery paid for by some unwitting pushovers? - Move to Britain!

Got a criminal record? Want to make a living stealing things, with no chance of arrest? - Move to Britain!

Want to have the freedom to act like an animal with no recriminations? - Move to Britain.

Want to travel the World? - Sorry, you can't. Move to Britain instead.


EU says it will: "Harmonize tax and the cost of goods throughout the Union".

What it actually means: "Everyone get's cheaper goods except Britian! Tax? - Let's hammer Britain! Petrol? - Let's have cheap petrol while Britain pays through the nose for hers.

Only Belgium, Holland, Norway and Denmark pay more for their fuel than we do.

France and Germany? They're laughing at us. Two Countries without a single oil field between them, and they're laughing at US.

Well Sabre - to answer your question - no. I f*cking HATE the EU, and pray daily that the entire constitution gets torn up, and we just trade with the other countires.

I tell you this:

The day we give up Sterling is the day I emmigrate to Canada.

:angry:

:laugh:   :laugh:   :laugh:

Don't agree with much of that Lando , but it does sometimes feel that way . 

We do seem to pussyfoot around and get taken for a ride by virtually everyone.

I remember the case of the Afghans who hijacked a plane ,flew to England after stopping to refuel in Russia then flew on over most of western europe , landed here and claimed political asylum . We were then told we couldn't throw them out !

Sh'it like that makes my blood boil.

It's tongue-in-cheek, mate.

Apart from my not wanting to be ruled by the Frogs.

B*stards to a man, I tell ya!!! :D
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