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by **anfieldadorer** » Tue May 25, 2004 5:37 am

Bob Paisley
Manager 1974-1983

League
1975-76 1st
1976-77 1st
1977-78 2nd
1978-79 1st
1979-80 1st
1980-81 5th
1981-82 1st
1982-83 1st (six championships)

League Cup winners
1980-81
1981-82
1982-83

European Cup winners
1976-77
1977-78
1980-81

Uefa Cup winners
1975-76

European Super Cup winners
1977-78

Joe Fagan
Manager 1983-1985

League
1983-84 1st
1984-85 2nd (one championship)

European Cup winners
1983-84

League Cup winners
1983-84

Kenny Dalglish
Manager 1985-1994

League
1985-86 1st
1986-87 2nd
1987-88 1st
1988-89 2nd
1989-90 1st
1990-91 2nd (three championships)

FA Cup winners
1986
1989

Graeme Souness
Manager 1991-1994

League
1991-92 6th
1992-93 6th
1993-94 8th

FA Cup winners
1992

Roy Evans
Manager 1994-1998

League
1994-95 4th
1995-96 3rd
1996-97 4th
1997-98 3rd

League Cup winners
1995

Gerard Houllier
Manager 1998-2004

League
1998-99 7th
1999-00 4th
2000-01 3rd
2001-02 2nd
2002-03 5th
2003-04 4th

FA Cup winners
2000-01

Uefa Cup winners
2000-01

League Cup winners
2000-01
2002-03

European Super Cup
2000-01

Charity Shield
2000-01

by **ckay** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:25 am

On paper GH doesn't look to bad, it was on the pitch that it all went wrong.

by **LFC #1** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:28 am

it all went wrong for the last 2 seasons anyway (except the worthington cup final).

by **ckay** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:30 am

After his op he lost the plot.

by **anfieldadorer** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:48 am

LFC #1 wrote:it all went wrong for the last 2 seasons anyway (except the worthington cup final).

agree.
If only he could at least maintain the moment....

by **Paul C** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:57 am

Yeah he won some silver ware which is great but he didn't win the trophy which matter the most to us reds.......... THE LEAGUE.

He played people out of position ruining their confidence and also bought bad players for lots of money.

by **Boocity** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:24 am

He was'nt as bad as Souness. That was the start of liverpool bad years

by **anfieldadorer** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:41 am

He's also better than Fagan in quantity of trophies collected.
Madrid and Bayern have just also sacked their managers.
So it can happen to every manager in every level.
We probably are too demanding for figures of the old greats e.g Shankly, Paisley that makes GH looks worse than he actually is.

by **stmichael** » Tue May 25, 2004 12:25 pm

ckay wrote:After his op he lost the plot. the cups were brilliant in their own right but in the league under houllier we finished an AVERAGE of 17 POINTS off the top. that just isn't good enough.

even roy evans managed to finish in the top 3 a few times when he was manager, and he didn't spend anywhere near £120m.

i agree he wasn't the same man after that but who would be?

by **Sean** » Tue May 25, 2004 1:52 pm

How can you suggest that Houllier was better than Fagan. Fagan reached two European Cup finals in two years in charge. We won the first in '84 and were robbed of the second in '85 when Gary Gillespie fouled outside the box but the referee gave a penalty. He may have inherited great players but he still had to motivate them. And don't forget that he steered them to the '85 European cup final following the departure of Graeme Souness to Sampdoria the previous summer.

Finally, Regarding Houllier "losing the plot after his operation", it is ironic that if Houllier had stepped down following his heart attack he would not be now be looked upon as being a Liverpool legend.

Seán

by **Sean** » Tue May 25, 2004 1:54 pm

Correction: "he would now be looked upon as being a Liverpool legend"....remind me to proof read in future

Seán

by **XSD** » Tue May 25, 2004 1:58 pm

Houllier could have been a legend, clearly the turning point was the 20m gamble on Cheyrou, Diouf and Diao.
If we had got 3 players then who worked out well we could have won the premiership.

by **stmichael** » Tue May 25, 2004 2:00 pm

for me the turning point was subbing hamann against leverkeusen in the 2001-2002 champions league quarter final second leg. that was the start of the demise.

by **Sean** » Tue May 25, 2004 2:05 pm

Agreed...so near and yet so far !!!

Seán

by **Paul C** » Tue May 25, 2004 2:05 pm

One of many bad decissions

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