Wrong site and town wrote:Just thought this would be right up your street.
If you only do one thing today, do this.
There is a very real danger that Cristiano Ronaldo will be voted the fans' best young player at the World Cup
Despite his pouting, diving, pretty boy antics designed mainly to get himself a lucrative transfer to
Real Madrid and thus avoid the good kicking he deserves from Wayne
Rooney
He is currently 1st in the FIFA voting just ahead of Luis Valencia of Ecuador.
Please can everyone go to
www.fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/bypa/eligible.html
Do the decent thing by voting for Valencia.
It doesn't matter who you support or if you haven't seen them play, just stop Ronaldo.
Takes 30 seconds...You know it makes sense!!!!
SPREAD THE WORD.............!
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LFC #1 wrote:bng89 wrote:LFC #1 wrote:bng89 wrote:Australia got knocked out by a dive. Why don't FIFA do anything- because they are corrupt
What are FIFA going to do? replay the whole game and throw the World Cup schedule into chaos.
Teams get hard done by often, Italy shouldn't have had Materazzi sent off for starters.
Inept maybe, but corrupt? I'm not sure you know what the word means.
If that sort of thing happened in a game between Brazil and Argentina the ref would have never given a penalty. FIFA want the 'top teams' (Germany, Argentina, France, Brazil, England, Portugal) to be in it to the death- they dnt want fuking underdogs.
If that were true, Materazzi never would never have got a straight red.
This kind of blows your "theory" out of the water I'm afraid.
dawson99 wrote:0asis wrote:I think it's unfair that Henry is taking so much flak for diving, as John sed, many players do it nowadays, even the likes of Henry, Garcia and Gerrard dive. Cheating is a big part of today's football, you'll just have to accept it. And to be fair to Henry, I can see why he did cheat and that was to get Arogones where it hurts the most after his comments on Henry a while ago.
Bey Henry is one of the most vocal players when it comes to diving and cheating. Whenever Arsenal lose Henry will be the first to say it was down to the diving and cheating of the opposition.
So yes, Henry does deserve the stick he gets
radun5 wrote:My point is : since video evidence is already used for banning (in case of players hitting each other and not being spotted by the referee), I would be for banning cheaters and divers (yellow cards for diving in the penalty area, red cards for diving in order to get somebody sent off) and to cancel the bans in case the referee redcarded a player with no fault.
Seeing people rolling on the floor is a disgrace, and also is seeing players showing imaginary cards to the referee (therefore trying to influence him). Some players' minds seem to be more on this kind of stupid things, instead of eyeing the ball.
I propose we start a poll concerning this ... maybe a petition to FIFA might also help.
0asis wrote:Gerrard has also been vocal on the issue as well, yet he's taken dives the most notable ones were against AC Milan...
Bad Bob wrote:0asis wrote:Gerrard has also been vocal on the issue as well, yet he's taken dives the most notable ones were against AC Milan...
That was never a dive for me, mate. Gattuso tripped him up and denied him a scoring opportunity. Gerrard's no serial diver and the few times he has gone down in the box he hasn't brought out the theatrics to con the ref. If he goes down and there's no call, he pops back up, end of. That's why you can't put him in the cheats category with the likes of Ronaldo, Robben and countless others.
0asis wrote:Bad Bob wrote:0asis wrote:Gerrard has also been vocal on the issue as well, yet he's taken dives the most notable ones were against AC Milan...
That was never a dive for me, mate. Gattuso tripped him up and denied him a scoring opportunity. Gerrard's no serial diver and the few times he has gone down in the box he hasn't brought out the theatrics to con the ref. If he goes down and there's no call, he pops back up, end of. That's why you can't put him in the cheats category with the likes of Ronaldo, Robben and countless others.
I've watched Gerrard "foul" from a few different angles and I have to say BB it looks like the slightest bit of contact from Gattuso and Gerrard going down, to me that's a dive. I'm not putting Gerrard in the same catergory but you can hardly stick Henry in the catergory with Robben, Ronaldo and the countless others. Both Henry and Gerrard have come out and slammed cheats, therefore they are as bad as each other, as far as I'm concerned they are both as bad as each other. So if Henry gets stick then so should Gerrard.
0asis wrote:I also don't get why people are making such a fuss about diving and play acting to be honest. It's been present in football for decades, it's become more known in recent years, but judging from people's responses you'd only think they've seen cheating at this World Cup. What goes on in the World Cup is what goes on in the Premiership, Seria A and La Liga each week as well as other leagues in other countries.
And I also think that FIFA's fair play regulations and the fact they are trying to stamp it out is having more of a negative impact on football than the diving. I'd much rather Ronaldo prounce around the box like he's a bally dancer than have Sami Hyypia sent off for accidently tripping up a player.
Cheating will always be part of football, I don't see why so many people are making such a fuss.
HantsRed wrote:There is no reason why cheating should "always be a part of football" - That is why people are making a fuss!
And while FIFA's stupid guidance on giving automatic yellow cards for "lunges" and the like is having a negative impact on football, the diving/play-acting/trying to get opponents carded is having an even greater negative effect. FIFA have not clamped down on it anywhere near enough. It can be very difficult for referees to spot without replays so for me, retrospective bans using video panels is a must.
Diving and trying to get players booked is a huge bugbear of mine and it does my head in more and more as it has become more frequent in the Premiership as you say.
However it was very rare in the old First Division in England when I started watching football 25 years ago and is an infection that the influx of foreign players brought to England with them in the 1990's.
Sorry pal, it might be acceptable to you but it isn't for most British football fans.
Kharhaz wrote:The reason why the subjects becoming more of a concern today is because now it really does affect the game. In the past yes there have been cheaters but usually that was to get a free kick in a really good position or even a penalty, now its to get players sent off more than anything. Gerrard and Henry have dived recently but why shouldnt they be fed up with the cheats like the rest of us? They have been robbed in countless games so why not give a little back? nothings being done about it so they get what they can
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