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by **puroresu** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:04 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:
redmikey wrote:mick/dawson

mark walters would have done the same job but with some step overs, i know i have been abit harsh with cissie, but in my defence i haven't rated him since before he got injured

i would love to see him turn it around by the end of the season and show everybody wrong, agreed he could only do that if he was in his prefered position but even out wide he lacks some of the basics to play at the top, vision, skill, a knowledge of the off side rule, striking of the ball on target.

steve gerrard did a great captains job by making sure cissie got a big well done for his part in the goal and tv didn't show any boll@cking for not sliding a pass to kewell when he had the chance,

face it he is anelka, all the attribute and a terrible attitude

Anelka is in a different league to Cisse.
Far better touch and awareness.
We played really well yesterday and the win was so comfortable Rafa was able to bring of Stevie for tomorrow.
Cisse was his usual self imo, awful touch and no awareness at all.
The one in the second half when he shot when Kewell was unmarked in the centre was disgraceful....i would of dragged him off there and then, the team should always come first.
I do think he would contribute more if he was played in his natural position, playing him on the right is doing no-one any favours.

Next time Cisse plays can somebody please make a note of all the times his 1st touch is poor. To me its been fine recently and yes some balls are mis controlled but nowhere near to the extent people say. Again I think people over emphasise whenever he mis controls a pass while dont do the same for others.

As for comparisons to Anelka. Look at many clubs Anelka has been to in his short career and the amount of disruption his called. Cisse has done nothing like that!!!

by **tubby** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:05 pm

If theres one thing with Rafa that we have seen it that he can bring out the bst at times in players. (Biscan, Traore (even if it was for one night) ect..) And evryone including myself was saying "give the lad a chance to come good and prove himself. Well i think a season and a bit is more than enough time to prove yourself and to be honst he doenst playwell against the big teams but only scores against the smaller teams. If we can get 10 Mil for him or use him to lure Owen or Defoe ill be happy. Then again m not so sure any EPL side would have him.

by **Crouchamania** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:47 pm

here's a question: would Cisse have seen Stevie's run which led to the penalty against AC Milan and,if so, could (or would?) he have played the ball through as Baros did. I don't think he would have seen it and I think this limitation is too big a problem for LFC.

by **kunilson** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:00 pm

emitynalooprevil wrote:
kunilson wrote:

kunilson wrote:Joe Cole was a showboating little prik from West Ham. Thats East London, and people like him there ain't got the nicest personalities in the world either......

Dont know where you going with this statement about East Londoners!!...........But anyway, he may have played for West Ham but he lived and was brought up in NORTH London. Fact.

At least get your facts about 'people like him' right if you're going to make such comments.

yeah sorry that was out of line, and wrong to boot. i have no issues with people from there, i actually spent most of my young life there and go back a couple of times a year. I didn't just watch Eastenders and judge him

i just don't like him much from what ive read about him, but i dont know him so can't say for sure.

And Henry became a world class player at Arsenal, he may have had potential before but he was definately not there, and Juve turned him into a winger, but under Wenger at Monaco and :censored:

he was centre forward. Ronaldinho was even at Monaco, but no way was he as good as how he is at Barcelona, that could be down to issues with the club/manager but one example im reluctant to bring up is Rooney, who is already a great player.....but i have seen a great improvement in his abilities at Man U. And ferguson is known to handle young talent well. Fact.

by **tubby** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:47 pm

kunilson wrote:
emitynalooprevil wrote:
kunilson wrote:

kunilson wrote:Joe Cole was a showboating little prik from West Ham. Thats East London, and people like him there ain't got the nicest personalities in the world either......

Dont know where you going with this statement about East Londoners!!...........But anyway, he may have played for West Ham but he lived and was brought up in NORTH London. Fact.

At least get your facts about 'people like him' right if you're going to make such comments.

yeah sorry that was out of line, and wrong to boot. i have no issues with people from there, i actually spent most of my young life there and go back a couple of times a year. I didn't just watch Eastenders and judge him i just don't like him much from what ive read about him, but i dont know him so can't say for sure.

And Henry became a world class player at Arsenal, he may have had potential before but he was definately not there, and Juve turned him into a winger, but under Wenger at Monaco and he was centre forward. Ronaldinho was even at Monaco, but no way was he as good as how he is at Barcelona, that could be down to issues with the club/manager but one example im reluctant to bring up is Rooney, who is already a great player.....but i have seen a great improvement in his abilities at Man U. And ferguson is known to handle young talent well. Fact.

Do you mean PSG and not Monaco for Ronaldinho

by **kunilson** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:49 pm

i probably did. im on fire with the mistakes :blues:

Note to self: Preview Post button is there for a reason.

by **tubby** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:08 pm

kunilson wrote:i probably did. im on fire with the mistakes

Note to self: Preview Post button is there for a reason.

Im the same with spelling errors.I type so fast i ncant be arsed to read it after.

by **puroresu** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:43 pm

kunilson wrote:
emitynalooprevil wrote:
kunilson wrote:

kunilson wrote:Joe Cole was a showboating little prik from West Ham. Thats East London, and people like him there ain't got the nicest personalities in the world either......

Dont know where you going with this statement about East Londoners!!...........But anyway, he may have played for West Ham but he lived and was brought up in NORTH London. Fact.

At least get your facts about 'people like him' right if you're going to make such comments.

yeah sorry that was out of line, and wrong to boot. i have no issues with people from there, i actually spent most of my young life there and go back a couple of times a year. I didn't just watch Eastenders and judge him i just don't like him much from what ive read about him, but i dont know him so can't say for sure.

And Henry became a world class player at Arsenal, he may have had potential before but he was definately not there, and Juve turned him into a winger, but under Wenger at Monaco and he was centre forward. Ronaldinho was even at Monaco, but no way was he as good as how he is at Barcelona, that could be down to issues with the club/manager but one example im reluctant to bring up is Rooney, who is already a great player.....but i have seen a great improvement in his abilities at Man U. And ferguson is known to handle young talent well. Fact.

Remember Ronaldinho at PSG. He did brilliant things but was incosistant. However Rijkarrd has managed to find the best position for him which helped his game greatly.

by **115-1073096938** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:43 pm

kunilson wrote:
emitynalooprevil wrote:
kunilson wrote:

kunilson wrote:Joe Cole was a showboating little prik from West Ham. Thats East London, and people like him there ain't got the nicest personalities in the world either......

Dont know where you going with this statement about East Londoners!!...........But anyway, he may have played for West Ham but he lived and was brought up in NORTH London. Fact.

At least get your facts about 'people like him' right if you're going to make such comments.

yeah sorry that was out of line, and wrong to boot. i have no issues with people from there, i actually spent most of my young life there and go back a couple of times a year. I didn't just watch Eastenders and judge him i just don't like him much from what ive read about him, but i dont know him so can't say for sure.

And Henry became a world class player at Arsenal, he may have had potential before but he was definately not there, and Juve turned him into a winger, but under Wenger at Monaco and he was centre forward. Ronaldinho was even at Monaco, but no way was he as good as how he is at Barcelona, that could be down to issues with the club/manager but one example im reluctant to bring up is Rooney, who is already a great player.....but i have seen a great improvement in his abilities at Man U. And ferguson is known to handle young talent well. Fact.

Rubbish.

by **Sabre** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:56 pm

Remember Ronaldinho at PSG. He did brilliant things but was incosistant. However Rijkarrd has managed to find the best position for him which helped his game greatly.

The player is the same everywhere, but in Barcelona he has Deco to give him service, remove Deco from the starting eleven, and you'll see a Ronaldinho's not so good day.

Deco has convinced me during this season, to be honest, I didn't rate him so much a year ago, but once you see him in action and not in highlights you realise he's one of the Keys of Barcelona.

by **kunilson** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:57 am

stu_the_red wrote:
kunilson wrote:
emitynalooprevil wrote:
kunilson wrote:

kunilson wrote:Joe Cole was a showboating little prik from West Ham. Thats East London, and people like him there ain't got the nicest personalities in the world either......

Dont know where you going with this statement about East Londoners!!...........But anyway, he may have played for West Ham but he lived and was brought up in NORTH London. Fact.

At least get your facts about 'people like him' right if you're going to make such comments.

yeah sorry that was out of line, and wrong to boot. i have no issues with people from there, i actually spent most of my young life there and go back a couple of times a year. I didn't just watch Eastenders and judge him i just don't like him much from what ive read about him, but i dont know him so can't say for sure.

And Henry became a world class player at Arsenal, he may have had potential before but he was definately not there, and Juve turned him into a winger, but under Wenger at Monaco and he was centre forward. Ronaldinho was even at Monaco, but no way was he as good as how he is at Barcelona, that could be down to issues with the club/manager but one example im reluctant to bring up is Rooney, who is already a great player.....but i have seen a great improvement in his abilities at Man U. And ferguson is known to handle young talent well. Fact.

Rubbish.

k, thanks. :laugh:

at least tell me why? :Oo:

i won't state an opinion of mine and then change it until i have been profoundly proven wrong....which i don't think i have been? or maybe i have and not reading properly but yeah...

preach.
:buttrock

by **115-1073096938** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:57 am

A great improvement in Rooney, Ronaldinho at Monaco and Henry "becoming" a world class player.

You've either got it or you haven't.

by **Paul C** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:52 am

Djibril Cisse's agent expects the player to leave Liverpool in the summer with Tottenham a possible destination.
From SSN:

The Frenchman's future at Anfield has been the subject of speculation for some time as he has struggled to hold down a regular place in Rafa Benitez's plans.

Benitez is widely expected to bring in striking reinforcements next summer as his forwards have misfired this season.

Cisse is expected to be one of the players sacrificed by Liverpool as they look to raise transfer funds for their own spending plans.

The former Auxerre man came close to leaving Liverpool during the January transfer window with the player's representative, Ranko Stoijic revealing Tottenham made a late bid to lure him to White Hart Lane.

Stoijic admitted that Tottenham are still keen on the speedy forward and that Cisse is attracted by a possible move to London.

"A departure is much likely," Stoijic told France Football.

"But Djibril has a very good relationship with the fans, and everyone at the club, so he doesn't want to question all that by asking to leave now.

"I don't believe the club will be against his departure if they can get €10 (£6.9 million) or €14 million. (£9.7 million)

"Next summer, Liverpool will need to sell to be able to buy.

"We know Tottenham is attracted. Last winter, they already tried to settle the transfer.

"On January 31 at 3 pm they contacted us. We didn't want it, a few hours before the end of the winter transfer window.

"What would have happened if we had started to try to make the transfer and it would have failed in the last minutes? Djibril would have endured a difficult end to the season.

"But the contacts should be renewed in the summer, and Djibril is really attracted.

"Tottenham is an improving club, which can offer him more playing time."

Cisse's brother Abou also revealed that Marseille wanted to sign the French international in January.

However, he was unhappy with the way Marseille conducted themselves in transfer negotiations.

"They wanted Djibril to take all the risks, putting Liverpool under pressure to agree to his departure," said Abou Cisse. "But it doesn't work that way.

"The two parties must take some risks. We can't ask the player to do everything."

by **azriahmad** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:03 pm

Get a decent fee for him and cash out. He obviously can't deliver for us, perhaps he is better off playing off the likes of Mido.

by **puroresu** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:04 pm

I dont see how Tottenham would gurantee him more playing time. Look at Defoe

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