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Postby tubby » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:58 pm

mramo wrote:
MaccaLFC wrote:We need David Villa..

David Villa? Dont you mean David (O'Leary from Aston) Villa ?

:laugh:

no David Villa from Valencia
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Postby bunglemark2 » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:21 pm

Lads and lassies,
I don't know what you all think, but looking at the body language of Rafa last night (depressed to f**k and all as I was !), I don't think he'll be there next season. Where was the passion up and down the sidelines ? And the board won't give him the funds that Chelski can offer, or that the Glazer's have promised for next season.
So where will the new blood/talent come from ??? Rafa's hands will be tied.....again !! He should've got millions after last year's exploits but none was forthcoming.  :no
Don't want to throw a dampener on things, but that's my tuppence worth....

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Postby Big Niall » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:22 pm

WE don't have ONE single striker who can be relied on to score.

Fowler - a decade past it (put aside your emotions, it is true)
Morientes - not cut out for a premiership team
Cisse - not a footballer
Crouch - has a chance of linking up with a striker, worthless without one.
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:24 pm

when was cisse last played in position?
well then, can everyone stop being idiots
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Postby onizukaeikichi » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:32 pm

keep warnock , get rid of cisse and mori, traore too and garcia frustrates me but sometimes he still scores but heck most of the time he :censored: me off
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Postby HOMER » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:06 pm

get anelka and kyut - power and pace. (and amazingly goals!)
keep crouch - come off the bench if were strugling, keep pongole-a bit tricky(something different).

sell all the other strikers for approx 6 million and buy lovenkradz(spelling?) quick and scores GOALS. and leave gerrard in the middle where he belongs
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Postby stmichael » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:16 pm

Bloody hell, lets all go and kill ourselves.

First off, the fact that we seemed to have taken getting into Europe's last 8 for granted says something. The fact that we were chuffed about drawing Benfica says something. And the fact that going out one round later than United and in the same round as the £300m misfits also says something.

Let's be honest, a few years ago, we looked up at United and Arsenal and got stiff necks from doing so. Now, we're looking down on Arsenal in a manner that they used to do to us. We're basically within touching distance of finishing above United, something we've done ONCE in over 15 years.

And, more importantly, the majority of our side is sorted. Pacey winger and goalscorer added to the equation, and you'd struggle to find a real weakness.

To sum up, sure it's gutting to go out, especially since against an inferior side but we've come a HELL of a long way in a short period of time and in the real world, you have to take the rough with the smooth.

You're never going to ONLY have highs. We experienced the ultimate high last year and when you reach the peak, you CAN only go down. But despite this low, we'll come out of it stronger and better. The lads will be better for the experience and the side will only get better.

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Postby dawson99 » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:28 pm

here here st mike of sponge.
like i said, the jogsaw is becoming complete. we do need something but nothing like what we needed 18 months ago.
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Postby Alonso14 » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:36 pm

Excellent post St Mick, when you put it like that things dont seem so bad. Just a great sign of the progress we have made under rafa. :)
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Postby redmikey » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:05 pm

stmichael wrote:Bloody hell, lets all go and kill ourselves.

First off, the fact that we seemed to have taken getting into Europe's last 8 for granted says something. The fact that we were chuffed about drawing Benfica says something. And the fact that going out one round later than United and in the same round as the £300m misfits also says something.

Let's be honest, a few years ago, we looked up at United and Arsenal and got stiff necks from doing so. Now, we're looking down on Arsenal in a manner that they used to do to us. We're basically within touching distance of finishing above United, something we've done ONCE in over 15 years.

And, more importantly, the majority of our side is sorted. Pacey winger and goalscorer added to the equation, and you'd struggle to find a real weakness.

To sum up, sure it's gutting to go out, especially since against an inferior side but we've come a HELL of a long way in a short period of time and in the real world, you have to take the rough with the smooth.

You're never going to ONLY have highs. We experienced the ultimate high last year and when you reach the peak, you CAN only go down. But despite this low, we'll come out of it stronger and better. The lads will be better for the experience and the side will only get better.

:buttrock

here here st mike

i wish i hadn't read some of the threads to today as every time we lose we should sell 5 players and rafa should get a grip

feck off glory hunters is my shout if it apply to anyone who reads it
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Postby stmichael » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:48 pm

gato_busta wrote:We need a right midfielder, a striker and a left midfielder. Kewell has been good this season but, IMO, he has a fairly pointless job in the team at the moment. Sure he is a winger, he crosses the ball in to the strikers who are meant to score the goals. He get his job done, the strikers don't. JAR was a serious goal threat last season on the left, thing that Kewell is not. We need a winger who does not only cross the ball in BUT is also a goal threat. Don't get me wrong, Kewell is a great player but Liverpool can get someone better.

He's been our best player in the last 4-6 weeks, despite not being back to the player he was at Leeds due to persistent injury.

I feel he's still taking one or two touches more than necessary at the moment but nobody can't be pleased with the drastic improvement he has made. I am hoping that Gonzales is going to make him work really really hard for his place and force improvement.
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Postby mikopool » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:56 pm

Crouch and Cisse up front could have created alot better chances, I think Cisse will get sold next season and the bloody sad excuse for a striker Morientes will stay. Hopefully someone will be sold, in all honesty I don't care who, as long as we get someone in.
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Postby BLANDY » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:58 pm

Ithink garcia should go as well gave the ball away 90% of the time last night he,s a luxury we can do without and i think we,ll get decent money for him.
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Postby maximus » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:59 pm

stmichael wrote:Bloody hell, lets all go and kill ourselves.

First off, the fact that we seemed to have taken getting into Europe's last 8 for granted says something. The fact that we were chuffed about drawing Benfica says something. And the fact that going out one round later than United and in the same round as the £300m misfits also says something.

Let's be honest, a few years ago, we looked up at United and Arsenal and got stiff necks from doing so. Now, we're looking down on Arsenal in a manner that they used to do to us. We're basically within touching distance of finishing above United, something we've done ONCE in over 15 years.

And, more importantly, the majority of our side is sorted. Pacey winger and goalscorer added to the equation, and you'd struggle to find a real weakness.

To sum up, sure it's gutting to go out, especially since against an inferior side but we've come a HELL of a long way in a short period of time and in the real world, you have to take the rough with the smooth.

You're never going to ONLY have highs. We experienced the ultimate high last year and when you reach the peak, you CAN only go down. But despite this low, we'll come out of it stronger and better. The lads will be better for the experience and the side will only get better.

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Good post St Mike, however, I would liek to make a few observations:

Bloody hell, lets all go and kill ourselves. (Not Yet St Mike, but you have to admit the manner of the defeat was depressing to say the least)

First off, the fact that we seemed to have taken getting into Europe's last 8 for granted says something. (Playing what is potentially the weakest team in the competition, we are well within our right to think so - YES!!) The fact that we were chuffed about drawing Benfica says something.(Like What?) And the fact that going out one round later than United (who gives a s.hit!! They are not the benchmark anymore, and have not been for about three seasons) and in the same round as the £300m misfits also says something (However they got beaten by possibly the best team in the world at the moment, hardly the same!!) .

Let's be honest, a few years ago, we looked up at United and Arsenal and got stiff necks from doing so. Now, we're looking down on Arsenal (Lets not kid ourselves, Arsenal like us are in a period of transition) in a manner that they used to do to us. We're basically within touching distance of finishing above United (Like I have said before, they are not the benchmark anymore, and have not been for about three seasons, however we are 2 points behind, playing one game more) something we've done ONCE in over 15 years.

And, more importantly, the majority of our side is sorted. Pacey winger and goalscorer(/s + 2 - possible cost 15 million plus combined - funding?? Unless we off load of course)  added to the equation, and you'd struggle to find a real weakness.

To sum up, sure it's gutting to go out, especially since against an inferior side but we've come a HELL of a long way in a short period of time and in the real world, you have to take the rough with the smooth. (AGREED, however we have not won the league for 15 years or so)

You're never going to ONLY have highs. We experienced the ultimate high last year (to a point, yes, however the ultimate high IMO is the premier league title, we are nowhere near that!!) and when you reach the peak (No St Mike IMO when you reach the PEAK, you build on that by attracting top class personnel to join a successful club, we have not done that in key areas)  you CAN only go down. But despite this low, we'll come out of it stronger and better. (AGREED Hopefully) The lads will be better for the experience and the side will only get better. (AGREED, hopefully)

:buttrock

To summarise, in all my posts I very rarely post negatively about the club I love. However, we have achieved in Rafa's tenure IN SPITE OF OUR STRIKERS, NOT BECAUSE OF THEM, and for that I will hand it to Rafa's genius.

This is the worst strikeforce this club has had for the last 40 years, until it is sorted, we will be found wanting at the highest level.
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Postby Effes » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:07 pm

bunglemark2 wrote:Lads and lassies,
I don't know what you all think, but looking at the body language of Rafa last night (depressed to f**k and all as I was !), I don't think he'll be there next season. Where was the passion up and down the sidelines ? And the board won't give him the funds that Chelski can offer, or that the Glazer's have promised for next season.
So where will the new blood/talent come from ??? Rafa's hands will be tied.....again !! He should've got millions after last year's exploits but none was forthcoming.  :no
Don't want to throw a dampener on things, but that's my tuppence worth....

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So the Glazer's put you £300M+ in debt, then promise you a few bob?
Good deal that.
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