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by **Kiwi-Kopite** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:17 am

I dont really know much about these teams, what do you think Rafa should do? Play his reserves, or play his first team or a mixture of both?

by **A.B.** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:19 am

What would be the European Clubs without the south american players???

Yes there would.

he english players are disgusting!

England[UK] have produced fine talent. The best youngest player in the world under the age of 20 is Wayne Rooney[even though I hate the b#stard].

liverpool is only winning now because of morientes, luis garcia, cisse... England has only 1 thing to be proud.... you created socce

What are you on about? We're winning because we're playing as a team, not because of any particular players.

by **A.B.** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:21 am

I dont really know much about these teams, what do you think Rafa should do? Play his reserves, or play his first team or a mixture of both?

We've sent mostly a strong squad.

by **columbia** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:25 am

Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
columbia wrote:
Red black white wrote:
Hi every one....I'm from San Jose, Costa Rica....a small,beautiful tropical country with warm weather and green rainforests troughout the year.....and only 4 million inhabitants in 52 000 square KM

As you see on my avatar and my signature(i hope).....I'm a big fan of the best team in Costa Rica and CONCACAF....Deportivo Saprissa.....23 league titles , 3 CONCACAF titles...and plus...in 70 years of history

Opposite of the way you think we have great expectations about this tournament...its a great window for our still developing football....and actually Im a bit desappointed you don't take it very seriously...but it's ok everyone is entitled to have an opinion....

We are actually very excited with the upcoming game against Liverpool...not everyday we have the oppotunity......we also have high hopes.....and honestly i think we have a chance of winning specially if the players think the way you do...Liverpool(1) vs Saprissa(2)

Hope to exchange opinions and comments....best regards to everyone

DALE ETERNO CAMPEON!!!
QUIERO OTRA ALEGRIA!!!

Here are some images of our humble stadium....fans "La Ultra Morada"...and images of Deportivo Saprissa
www.saprissa.co.cr
www.laultramorada.net

DALE MONSTRUO QUEREMOS LA COPA
LA HINCHADA ESTA LOCA MONSTRUO
QUIERO VERTE CAMPEOOOON
YO TE VOY A ALENTAR COMO TODOS LOS ANOS
ESA ES MI ILUSION
QUIERO VERTE CAMPEON

Hi American guy! I'm from Brazil and supporter of São Paulo (also in World Club Championship). It's also for us a great honnor to join in this championship which we have already been champions twice, in 1992 and 1993.

You'll find messages of disdain about this championship, but it's understanding since the British guys don't really know football around the world. So, that's natural and most part of them will soon get involved in this championship. Just out of curiosity, South Americans have won the Intercontinental Cup 13 times while Europeans have won 12 times...so this superiority of European sides does not really exist.

And also, this competition is the unique that can "save the season" for Liverpool. So, the aim of Liverpool's players must be win it.

Good luck and congrats for the victory today!

PS: Great idea to put photos of the fans. I'll select some and post here too.

if you believe that you are either incredibley stupid or are in denial. If european clubs had taken this half as seriously as the south american clubs then the history of the competition in terms of its winners, would be much different. Also, the fact that in recent times south american clubs have sold all their best players to european teams will make a diffence this time round imo, i think that when you previously won the competiton you kept a lot of the stars within your own clubs rather then sold them on which seems to happen all the time now.

Its seen by most european clubs as a waste of time as it just gets in the way of more serious matters. In fact, i feel the only reason the competition even exists is so FIFA can exploit the european clubs to gain financial revenue, why do you think its in Japan for gods sake!

An example of how unseriously european clubs take this competition came last year when the G-14 (a grouping of the most powerful soccer clubs in europe) voted against the proposal of staging this very competition, basically claiming that it was a waste of time and unimportant. So the competion is basically seen as a joke by many european clubs. Take my word for it, whenever i have heard people talk of this competion recently in the british press or on television etc it has been in the context that its a complete waste of time. For example "liverpool now have to deal with the incovinience of going to tokyo for the Fifa world club championship and its come at a bad time with them now performing well in the league. They will hope the distraction of this competition won't disrupt the more important matter of the premiership".

Dont get me wrong i hope we play well and win the competion but if i had a choice of us performing well in the league over christams when we arrive back from Japan having lost the tournament or winning the tournamnet but then performing badly in the league over christams i'll give you one guess which one i'd chhose. This is something that i dont think we have in common with any of the other participating clubs.

I think it´s difficult for a british or for a european recognize the superiority of the south american football.

We are just 10 countries and we have 9 world cups while Europe is composed by 52 countries and have 8.

About Intercontinental Cup in 44 editions we got 23 titles while the europeans... 21.

In all statistics we are better. We have the two greatest players in history, Pele and Maradona...

...this disdain it´s just fear to me.

i never once doubted the fact that South America has/had some very good international sides. My point was addressing the current ablity of your countries clubs. I wouldnt be suprised at all if your club has some rising star of the future that i have never heard of but i still genuinely believe that when brazilian or argentinian players come to play in europe they improve to a level that they wouldnt acheive by staying in their own country. This is because the standard of european leagues is of a higher level so they naturally improve. I doubt Ronaldinho would be the player he is today had he not moved to psg and then barca. If you look at the brazilian or argentinian prefered starting line ups, most of the 11 come from european clubs, this has been the case for some time now and to me it shows that your best players play in european leagues. I dont think this is a coicidence and it was makes me believe that liverpool are better then sauo paulo, because we succeed in a harder league with the best players from around the world.

by **Red black white** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:52 am

columbia wrote:
Red black white wrote:
Hi every one....I'm from San Jose, Costa Rica....a small,beautiful tropical country with warm weather and green rainforests troughout the year.....and only 4 million inhabitants in 52 000 square KM

As you see on my avatar and my signature(i hope).....I'm a big fan of the best team in Costa Rica and CONCACAF....Deportivo Saprissa.....23 league titles , 3 CONCACAF titles...and plus...in 70 years of history

Opposite of the way you think we have great expectations about this tournament...its a great window for our still developing football....and actually Im a bit desappointed you don't take it very seriously...but it's ok everyone is entitled to have an opinion....

We are actually very excited with the upcoming game against Liverpool...not everyday we have the oppotunity......we also have high hopes.....and honestly i think we have a chance of winning specially if the players think the way you do...Liverpool(1) vs Saprissa(2)

Hope to exchange opinions and comments....best regards to everyone

DALE ETERNO CAMPEON!!!
QUIERO OTRA ALEGRIA!!!

Here are some images of our humble stadium....fans "La Ultra Morada"...and images of Deportivo Saprissa
www.saprissa.co.cr
www.laultramorada.net

DALE MONSTRUO QUEREMOS LA COPA
LA HINCHADA ESTA LOCA MONSTRUO
QUIERO VERTE CAMPEOOOON
YO TE VOY A ALENTAR COMO TODOS LOS ANOS
ESA ES MI ILUSION
QUIERO VERTE CAMPEON

Hi American guy! I'm from Brazil and supporter of São Paulo (also in World Club Championship). It's also for us a great honnor to join in this championship which we have already been champions twice, in 1992 and 1993.

You'll find messages of disdain about this championship, but it's understanding since the British guys don't really know football around the world. So, that's natural and most part of them will soon get involved in this championship. Just out of curiosity, South Americans have won the Intercontinental Cup 13 times while Europeans have won 12 times...so this superiority of European sides does not really exist.

And also, this competition is the unique that can "save the season" for Liverpool. So, the aim of Liverpool's players must be win it.

Good luck and congrats for the victory today!

PS: Great idea to put photos of the fans. I'll select some and post here too.

if you believe that you are either incredibley stupid or are in denial. If european clubs had taken this half as seriously as the south american clubs then the history of the competition in terms of its winners, would be much different. Also, the fact that in recent times south american clubs have sold all their best players to european teams will make a diffence this time round imo, i think that when you previously won the competiton you kept a lot of the stars within your own clubs rather then sold them on which seems to happen all the time now.

Its seen by most european clubs as a waste of time as it just gets in the way of more serious matters. In fact, i feel the only reason the competition even exists is so FIFA can exploit the european clubs to gain financial revenue, why do you think its in Japan for gods sake!

An example of how unseriously european clubs take this competition came last year when the G-14 (a grouping of the most powerful soccer clubs in europe) voted against the proposal of staging this very competition, basically claiming that it was a waste of time and unimportant. So the competion is basically seen as a joke by many european clubs. Take my word for it, whenever i have heard people talk of this competion recently in the british press or on television etc it has been in the context that its a complete waste of time. For example "liverpool now have to deal with the incovinience of going to tokyo for the Fifa world club championship and its come at a bad time with them now performing well in the league. They will hope the distraction of this competition won't disrupt the more important matter of the premiership".

Dont get me wrong i hope we play well and win the competion but if i had a choice of us performing well in the league over christams when we arrive back from Japan having lost the tournament or winning the tournamnet but then performing badly in the league over christams i'll give you one guess which one i'd chhose. This is something that i dont think we have in common with any of the other participating clubs.

I know what you mean. I also think that if it hadn't any European side in this competition, it would be a meaningless cup as well, due to the VISIBLE inferiority of football from Asia, Africa and Oceania. However, I can assure you that south american teams are as good as european teams. And also, if you didn't have the money, Europe would be nothing compared to South America in terms of football.

And for me it sounds indredibly stupid travel to Japan in the middle of the league to "lose" the game or not make much effort. Since Liverpool is already in Japan, the only way possible is to try to win the championship or it would had been a total waste of time. Do you agree with me?

And I also remember the Milan's coach in 1993: "We lost for the best team in the World". It was a great match and you can check the gols in this same topic. Don't forget that spanish, intalian and portuguese teams consider this championship far more important than the bristish teams.

I don't know which team will win this championship, but I'm sure that São Paulo and Liverpool could make a memorable game and I'm expecting for that.

Don't get me wrong, but as my mate from Brazil said, this disdain sounds like fear.

What would be the European Clubs without the south american players??? The english players are disgusting! liverpool is only winning now because of morientes, luis garcia, cisse... England has only 1 thing to be proud.... you created soccer. We added soccer touch of perfection. The English team will be beaten by Equador in the World Cup !

get ready for soccer leassons sunday.... amoroso, cicinho and junior will give it for you...

Time for "Stop crying your heart out 2" - by Oasis
LOL

by **Bandeirante_SPFC** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:53 am

columbia wrote:i never once doubted the fact that South America has/had some very good international sides. My point was addressing the current ablity of your countries clubs. I wouldnt be suprised at all if your club has some rising star of the future that i have never heard of but i still genuinely believe that when brazilian or argentinian players come to play in europe they improve to a level that they wouldnt acheive by staying in their own country. This is because the standard of european leagues is of a higher level so they naturally improve. I doubt Ronaldinho would be the player he is today had he not moved to psg and then barca. If you look at the brazilian or argentinian prefered starting line ups, most of the 11 come from european clubs, this has been the case for some time now and to me it shows that your best players play in european leagues. I dont think this is a coicidence and it was makes me believe that liverpool are better then sauo paulo, because we succeed in a harder league with the best players from around the world.

I agree that our finnest players is today acting in Europe but unhappyly (for you of course) none of them is playing for the reds.

For your knowledge there is some of best brazilian players acting for São Paulo today.

Our goalkeeper Rogério Ceni for many here in Brazil is considerated the best (better than Dida, Gomes...)
We have three awesome defenders... Lugano (uruguayan, probably in AC Milan next year after 2 seasons here), Júnior (for many one of the three best left side defenders of Brazil with Roberto Carlos and Gustavo Nery) and Cicinho (to me the best right side defender of Brazil, better than Cafu. He was sold to Real Madrid). We have Mineiro and Josué yet and to finish we have Amoroso as our most advanced forward.

You have no idea about what Liverpool will face my friend.

by **babu** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:18 am

Well unfortunatly Sydney FC won't be playing LFC, just heard they lost 1-0. Shame really would have like to see them get thrashed by LFC.

Oh well.

by **zarababe** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:19 am

I think you no not of the awesome force you are about to face.

1-0 against a poor side for you , wait to see the mighty red machine -3 if your lucky, but you may concede more if we are in the mood

by **gonzul_morado** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:30 am

A.B. wrote:I watched Sydney v Saprissa in the first half and I got to be honest, but Sydney deserved to be up front by at least 2 goals. Saprissa were defending for most of the half and were hardly attacking.

What??? JAJAJAJA!!!! I agree it wasn't our best first half....i asure you that is not our whole potential.....BUT......we had 2 or 3 chances at goal....as they also did........in 2 half it was totally different...ball control....great passing....a great goal....and 3 or 4 chances to make the difference bigger....

I really hope players think the same way you do.....also i thnik despicted Liverpool have really great players...and plays in a much mre competitive league.....this are little advantages that play against you.....this mentality....alaos the little knowledge about our team....but us we see premier every week also UCL....so....

DALE MONSTRUO!!!
PONGAN HUEVOS Q GANAMOS!!!

by **Sabre** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:33 am

According to the Spanish press, Sydney wanted but coudn't. Deportivo Saprissa managed the game well and won comfortably.

I really hope players think the same way you do.....also i thnik despicted Liverpool have really great players...and plays in a much mre competitive league.....this are little advantages that play against you.....this mentality....alaos the little knowledge about our team....but us we see premier every week also UCL....so....

But mate, bravery won't win you the game against Liverpool. Hope you give us a decent match, though, compañero. Suerte.

by **Red squirrel** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:35 am

by **gonzul_morado** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:39 am

Sabre wrote:But mate, bravery won't win you the game against Liverpool. Hope you give us a decent match, though, compañero. Suerte.

I know that's not enough....but at least in latinamerican football is a very important ascpect of it...." poner huevos " we say( literally "put your eggs") refering to puttinng balls....going for every lose ball....jump higher in every high ball.....and motivated players do count for 2....

But again I asure you that is not all we have....and you'll all see on thursday....I hope my players can demostrate all their quality and "huevos"...so we can get trough with the match

by **Sabre** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:43 am

But again I asure you that is not all we have....and you'll all see iy on thursday....I hope my players can demostrate all their quality and "huevos"...so we can get trough with the match

I know what putting eggs is mate, I'm Spaniard :;):

. It's amazing how a cool phrase in my language, seems ridiculous in english

Estimado Gonzul_dorado: this is what's going to happen. You're going to pass the ball calmly, but those Ingleses will press, and you are going to loose the ball easily. Automatically you'll find that it's min 15 and your line of defence is very back. Then a corner. Min 26, first goal. The Albion guys surprisingly enough won't stop in their pressure, and you're going to be nervous, specially when you discover when it comes to poner huevos, those reds are top class. 3-0.

Good luck anyway! and regards!

by **gonzul_morado** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:46 am

Sabre wrote:I know what putting eggs is mate, I'm Spaniard . It's amazing how a cool phrase in my language, seems ridiculous in english

You're so right...i laughed alot while i was writting it...jejeje

OOOOOH VAMOS MONSTRUO VAMOS OOOHH
OOOOOH VAMOS MONSTRUO VAMOS
PONGAN HUEVOS QUE GANAMOS!!!
OOOOOH VAMOS MONSTRUO VAMOSS!!!

by **AussieKopite** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:13 am

A.B. wrote:
What would be the European Clubs without the south american players???

Yes there would.

he english players are disgusting!

England[UK] have produced fine talent. The best youngest player in the world under the age of 20 is Wayne Rooney[even though I hate the b#stard].

liverpool is only winning now because of morientes, luis garcia, cisse... England has only 1 thing to be proud.... you created socce

What are you on about? We're winning because we're playing as a team, not because of any particular players.

I dont think the current European champions have any South American first team players at all.

Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher, John Terry, Michael Owen and David Beckham all seem to be less than disgusting.

I would say that Carra, Gerard and hyypia playing a fairly important part.

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