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by **Juventino** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:16 pm

Seems ok to me too, but it seems both sides has unwilling-to-rebuild supporters so...
With this banner I think everbody will be satisfied, it means "never again".

by **LFC #1** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:18 pm

I think Liverpool fans are willing to befriend Juventus, and both clubs have tried to bridge the divides since Heysel.

I am pretty sure their will be no problems in England, Italy may be another story though.

by **Juventino** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:26 pm

Yes, for the majority it is true, but there is still a few who wants to repeat history. However, I said it before, and I'll keep saying it, I am confident there will be no trouble in Italy either... Fans trouble in the Delle Alpi are rare, not like in the Olimpico or San Siro.
Plus, I'm sure Del Piero will convince the drughi and others in curva sud not to be violent, thing that a Francesco Totti for example, would never do.

by **LFC #1** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:43 pm

thats true, the Olimpico especially is famous for crowd violence and you hardly here of disturbances of Turin, I just hope you are right.

by **System** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:49 pm

you don't understand...some of JUVE ultras were at heysel 20 years ago and some of them lost that day friends or relations...they are waiting this day for quite a long time

by **LFC #1** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:52 pm

I realise that, and thats the problem. These Ultras have had that anger built up for 20 years, and now they can take it out on most likely innocent Liverpool fans who had nothing to do with Heysel. Thankfully they are the minority rather than the majority and let's hope nothing too serious occurs.

by **MilitiaRusher** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:54 pm

from the System guy's first post, it seems that Liverpool fans travelling to Turin would be too big of a risk! is juventus going to educate the fans?

by **Juventino** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:56 pm

The fans are educated.

by **LiverpoolFC_Kopite** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:25 pm

If these so called Juve fans are out to avenge lost ones, which you are saying, this would be the biggest disrespect to those who lost their lives at Heysel and would just show that nothing has been learnt from the tragedy!

by **System** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:41 pm

MilitiaRusher wrote:from the System guy's first post, it seems that Liverpool fans travelling to Turin would be too big of a risk! is juventus going to educate the fans?

the fans are educated, but the ultras (it's different) for this match are going to kick every red thing...In my opinion I'm not so revengeful, I'll be satisfied if we'll be able to beat you...

by **anfieldadorer** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:10 pm

Juventino wrote:The fans are educated.

Hopefully so, but i believe yes, there are always fans like makonen, despite minority, to attend the match.

by **KennyisGod....still** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:21 pm

I'm actually lookin forward to this game bein over and respect for history is the lastin sentiment. There was always a chance of us meetin again, I bet it was the first thought on the boards minds every time we enter the same competition as Juve, but maybe time aint such a great healer. I watched the Scotland game on Saturday and was shocked to see the scenes. Its been many years since tartan fans have been involved with any trouble (even England/Scotland in Euro 96 werent bad) so it came as no surprise to see the Scots took no part in it. I've stood with them all over Scotland, and will be at Hampden to face Italy, but nothin would encourage me to be at the Juve away game I'm afraid. IMO guys have gotta give their families a thought before settin foot inside that stadium, bearin in mind - improbable but not impossible - the tie cud be over in our favor by that time. I got a wife and 2 kiddies, no idiots worth losin that for. I pray everythin goes off ok, and I aint religious. I jus love my club and the good name it - and its supporters - have.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:40 pm

yeah, i`ve no doubt like here 99% of italians are honest law abiding people but i`m afraid there are elements out there that thrive on this sort of thing.
they are not worried about the families of the bereaved or anything else for that matter they just want an excuse to start trouble. if it happened the other way round no doubt there would be people over here stirring it up.
its just a sad fact of life.
i really hope there`s no trouble and i honestly think the game at anfield will be a great occasion, but i fear for the away leg.
things like this attract every crackpot from miles around.

by **Judge** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:43 am

Juventino wrote:Yes, for the majority it is true, but there is still a few who wants to repeat history. However, I said it before, and I'll keep saying it, I am confident there will be no trouble in Italy either... Fans trouble in the Delle Alpi are rare, not like in the Olimpico or San Siro.
Plus, I'm sure Del Piero will convince the drughi and others in curva sud not to be violent, thing that a Francesco Totti for example, would never do.

inter city firm infiltrators were responsible for the heysel disaster, where alot of lfc supporters were blamed. these organised crime gangs are v good at spoiling others pleasure.

i was there and saw west ham shirts under coats of cockney folk supposedly supporting LFC. :angry:

i think juve have a good fan base and an excellent club, and apart from the disaster 20yrs ago, its a shame juve will lose to the mighty reds on the field of play

, but someone has to

by **taff** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:03 am

As much as it hurts the majority were Liverpool fans. This still doesnt detract from the shoddy stadium, shoddy policing, abysmal ticket allocation and Juventus fans there for trouble as well.

The game was just a complete shambles and sadly was inevitable considering the attitude to fans and the circumstances at the time. History will say it was Juventus and Liverpool but it could have been any clubs

Ive watched football around Europe and they have loony fans just like in Britain but I do think there is a bias towards Britain that existe due to past behaviour. Take Chelsea with the will they be thrown out of the champions league because of Mourinho, why werent Roma thrown out a ref actually got hit.

To Juve fans, pleae make this peaceful and respect away fans like you will get respected yourselves. I understand the urge for revenge and macho pride but ultimately this will get you nowhere and will not honour the dead.

Plus the LFC fans do not want to know about any trouble, now its not honourable to fight those who dont want to fight.

And the world cup is next year can we have a tournament with no trouble please and nobody wants bad feeling between fans

Finally, dont mark the memory of Il Gigante and season he died with trouble

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