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Postby kazza » Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:47 am

bunglemark2 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:20 pm wrote:Reading we missed out on a wonderkid from a bankrupt Bordeaux as well.
I don't know what these guys are being paid but it's not too do their job imo

Weren’t our owners going to buy Bordeaux then pulled out, maybe it has something to do with that.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:56 am

I can’t believe we are going into a new champions league season with a smaller squad.

To make matters worse, some of our key players are in their last year of their contract.

A couple of injuries are all that will be required to wreck our season and drop us out of the top 4.

Can’t say I’m very confident. Hope Slot proves me wrong.
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Postby kazza » Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:24 am

I don’t think we are playing Slotball yet, it seems a combination of both now. I do see a pattern so far with preseason included and that is other teams pressing hard in the first 20 minutes when they are fresh and us trying to pass through the press, it’s where we could make errors. As the half goes on the other teams seems to lose a little energy and we take control. So far the errors we made were not punished so we never ended up 0-1 and it will be interesting to see how we cope if that happened. I think we may be better under Slot against teams that park the bus as our seemingly irrelevant passes do seem to open gaps. Slot’s football is really reliant on players with great ball control and ability to spot a pass, we seem to have those players.

Slot is certainly not Klopp but he does have the same traits and seems familiar like we have met before, I like his vibe.
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Postby redshade » Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:38 am

Just hope we're not sitting here in 12-24 months time saying: "This guy has been so good and got us so close. Just imagine what he could have achieved had he got sufficient backing."
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:02 am

redshade » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:38 am wrote:Just hope we're not sitting here in 12-24 months time saying: "This guy has been so good and got us so close. Just imagine what he could have achieved had he got sufficient backing."


i'm getting Brendan vibes with this fella, young progressive coach, exciting philosophy/style of play etc but lets the yanks walk all over him. No wonder Jurgen decided to call it a day.
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Postby redshade » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:43 am

Moving from his Dutch team to the type of quality players we have Arne must definitely feel we are a level above. Wouldn't be surprised if his happy with what we got. I'm really hoping his not a "yes man".
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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:35 pm

It took Rafa time to settle, even the snake oil salesman needed time to settle into the job. Slot will get there but think it's vital that he's given every opportunity to succeed by the club buying in suitable players.
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Postby kazza » Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:41 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:02 pm wrote:
redshade » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:38 am wrote:Just hope we're not sitting here in 12-24 months time saying: "This guy has been so good and got us so close. Just imagine what he could have achieved had he got sufficient backing."


i'm getting Brendan vibes with this fella, young progressive coach, exciting philosophy/style of play etc but lets the yanks walk all over him. No wonder Jurgen decided to call it a day.

I’m not sure I agree, whenever Brendan spoke he sounded insincere, I don’t get that with Slot. Rodgers got his teeth done, left his wife for a younger model and when we played like cr@p he said we were magnificent …. Slot seems genuine like Klopp was. Early days but that’s the vibe I get. We don’t know what is happening behind the scenes.
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Postby red till i die!! » Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:29 pm

Ah that Rodgers lad is some boy alright. Pure cringe he was.

I think Slot is a good appointment tbh and probably the best we could do given the timing of it all. He does come across as a yes man but I don't think they would hire anything less. I also think Klopp was somewhat a yes man as well. Its the system and the structure and it doesn't change because of a manager. It's the same as Slots first signing. As if he is thinking about the keeper situation down the line  :laugh: He even says the same stuff Klopp did in the early days like its a script.
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Postby Reg » Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:00 pm

Behind his friendly exterior, Arne Slot is as ruthless as they come
Slot is not at Liverpool to copy Jurgen Klopp but he has already shown comparable toughness in his decision making

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Liverpool are compelled to move on from the Jurgen Klopp era to maximise Arne Slot’s chances of repeating it. Not unexpectedly, the rest of the world is not ready to do so at the same pace.

For the time-being and no doubt the foreseeable future, every decision, comment and celebration is being viewed under the lens of ‘what would Klopp do?’ So it was despite a winning start in last week’s Premier League opener.

Would Klopp have used Ryan Gravenberch as a No 6? Diogo Jota as the No 9? Would he order his defenders and goalkeeper to indulge in passing triangles in their six-yard box? And where were the celebratory fist pumps to the travelling supporters?

Most significantly and unnerving for some was whether Klopp would have been so brutal as to sub youngster Jarell Quansah at half-time, and then reference his performance as symptomatic of the team’s lack of aggression as Ipswich made a belligerent start?

“Speaking out publicly about a player’s performance is not something that I think you’d have ever heard from Jurgen Klopp so there’s already a slight difference there,” observed Gary Lineker, one of many to take note. “It always makes me slightly nervous when managers are critical of their players.”

Slot addressed the substitution in his Friday press conference before Sunday’s visit of Brentford, revealing he held discussions with Quansah to fully explain his decision.

Behind his friendly exterior, Arne Slot is as ruthless as they come
Jarell Quansah struggled against Ipswich Credit: AP/Alastair Grant
“I spoke to him immediately after the game and again on Sunday, the day after,” said Slot. “At the end of that conversation he asked if he could train on Sunday. He reacted in the way every player should. I don’t think there should be that much [read] into it. What I said was he did not lose every duel. But he lost one or two important ones.

“It was not about Jarell. We as a team did not do well. At that time, the only threat from Ipswich was [Liam] Delap and he won one or two important duels. I was trying to get that strength out of their team by bringing in Ibou [Konate].”

Judging players for himself
Slot’s hooking of Quansah certainly demonstrated a ruthless streak, and one that is not atypical of his early Anfield work, especially in the manner in which he has judged the squad he inherited and determined who can cut it.

The current obsession remains focused on who Liverpool will sign, but Slot has been diligently working on who might be culled based on his own judgment rather than the eulogies of the recent past.

Only players of accomplished technique capable of fitting his system will survive the next seven days and thrive moving forward, those lacking a perfect first touch in no doubt about their current standing in the pecking order. There is already a sense of Liverpool rapidly morphing into a Slot team, the new coach in no mood to hang around to impose his vision as a week of small-sided training games and in-depth tactical briefings concludes with a full 11-versus-11 game to put theory into practice closer to matchday.

Slot’s assessment of some of Liverpool’s younger talent has been particularly informative, with many recently considered on the threshold of a first-team breakthrough realising their status is no greater than an Under 18 player seeking to impress. Slot’s use of the prodigious Trey Nyoni ahead of more experienced alternatives in pre-season was the surest signal of what the Dutch coach values. Many anticipated Spanish midfielder Stefan Bajcetic to be in line to save Liverpool a small fortune. Instead, it is more likely he will be leaving before the end of next week.

Behind his friendly exterior, Arne Slot is as ruthless as they come
Stefan Bajcetic could be on his way out before the transfer window closes Credit: Reuters /Barry Reeger
Similarly, for Liverpool to raise £10 million from the sale of teenager Bobby Clark to RB Salzburg represents extraordinary business, the cold, hard reality of a big fee making the deal a no-brainer, despite Clark being one of the heroes of last year’s Carabao Cup final win.

As well as seeking recruits, the final week of the transfer window looks set to be littered with more outgoings, following a pattern when Slot took over at Feyenoord and made decisive instant judgment on those suited his system, irrespective of the positive references of the previous regime.

“If you are a coach at that level, you have to be like this – you can’t win by just being nice,” says Rotterdam-based freelance journalist Richard Dubbeld, who has years of experience covering Feyenoord and sees obvious echoes with Slot’s early work at Anfield.

“Arne does not beat around the bush. There is no player at Feyenoord who over the three years he was there ever said anything negative about him, even when they left. What they like about him is he is not playing around. He is clear in his opinion. There is no fussing about. His door is always open. When he makes a substitution as he did last weekend he will make an explanation. I’m not sure if I would describe it as ruthless.

“What some say is ruthless, others call honesty, and I am sure he would have had a good chat with Quansah the day after last weekend’s game. He would tell him what he did right and wrong. It would never be one way.”

Comparisons with Klopp’s ruthlessness
Despite the eye-brow raising after the Quansah substitution and subsequent remarks, suggestions this represents a great departure from Klopp may have been overestimated.

Beyond Klopp’s exterior as the affable football intellect who you would love to have a pint with, he showed from day one he was ruthless when necessary.

The start of his reign included several examples of players being left in no doubt their futures were elsewhere, as striker Christian Benteke, goalkeeper Simon Mignolet and centre-back Mamadou Sakho – publicly embarrassed after being sent home during Klopp’s first pre-season tour for lack of discipline – might testify.

Klopp was not averse to subbing centre-backs at half-time, either. If Quansah needs a pep talk, he could contact Dejan Lovren who was scapegoated by Klopp for a dismal performance against Harry Kane and Tottenham Hotspur in a 4-1 defeat in 2017. Lovren was starting a Champions League final a few months later.

Granted, Lovren was more experienced than Quansah, but the youngster’s rite of passage will not hold him back or prevent him being fundamental to future plans.

So although there are already subtle differences between Slot and Klopp in terms of style on and off the pitch, the decisiveness and determination to put the needs of the team ahead of any personal feelings of players is not one of them.

“Arne and the complete performance staff will work with the guys all week and they know what they want from the game,” suggests Dubbeld.

“If the players are not bringing it, he will think, ‘I must do something else because I am not messing about. I am here to win football games.’”
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Postby bunglemark2 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:07 pm

Interesting stat.
Slot the first manager to win all three opening games without conceding a goal since Sven Goran Eriksson in 2007
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Postby Reg » Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:34 pm

In the match day threads we have our criticisms of the team for not putting games to bed earlier etc.. however let's consider that not only have we got a new manager, but over half the training team left at the end of last season from Pep Lijnders all the way down to the goal keeping coach so a massive shout out not just to Slot but to all the coaches who've come in and hit the ground running.

And equal recognition to the team who have taken responsibility for the transition period putting these wins together whilst the new management team bed their way in. Well done to the whole club.

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Postby devaney » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:14 am

Where I stand with Arne’s amazing start to his career at Liverpool.

Very early days. Klopp was the most successful and probably the most charismatic manager that LFC have had in a very long time.

Slot has been fortunate to walk into a club that is in a very strong position in all areas of their operation. He has so far used the tremendous assets that he inherited to great effect.

LFC is going to require a considerable amount of successful player investment during the next few years due to both ageing and injury prone players. It is also quite possible that we may lose some players in the near future should they decide to run their contracts down and go to another club on a free? Situations of this nature will certainly test Slot’s ability.

As I say, it’s very early days.
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Postby redshade » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:45 am

Amazing start, his tightened up the back and made us more "controlled". If Slot manages to win the EPL it will be some achievement. Inheriting a side is one thing but getting them to play your way and pulling out results is another. A lot of credit must be given to Slot.

Apart from Chiesa we haven't had a chance to see what type of players he'll bring in. That will be a big challenge for him to replace ageing players an even bigger challenge
will be creating his own side.

If we are in a solid position in Jan owners have to back him.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:19 pm

We have started brilliantly. And I'm very surprised that we are top in our transition season with Slot. That said, most of the credit here has to go to Jurgen for the foundations he put in place.

The big challenge comes in January when we need to strengthen or risk burnout (like last year). The fate and replacements of Mo, VVD and Trent will also make or break Slot's time here.

A loooooonnnnnnng way to got (no one wins anything in November) but so far so good for the new gaffer.
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