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Postby red till i die!! » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:07 pm

7_Kewell » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:29 pm wrote:
Eagle » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:10 pm wrote:Gravy added to Slobby and Mac. Endo as experienced squad depth. Midfield rebuild complete.

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Who is Fabinho's replacement?


It's Endo until we mould Gravenberch into his destined career as a hybrid 6. No one else could see it only us but its going to happen!!

Personally I'm happy we are bringing in another player before the window shuts and we needed another mid. Whether he's good enough or not I don't know but we seem to really want him. He could turn out to be a good player so best of luck to him.
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Postby Doeboy » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:19 pm

Spoke to a German colleague of mine regarding Gravenberch. He seems to think he has huge potential but at the moment the defensive and tactical side of his game are lacking and when he was playing or came on, Bayern started to look vulnerable in midfield as he struggled with tactical discipline. Still very young so sure with more game time and the right coaching it is something that will improve.
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Postby Eagle » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:23 pm

7_Kewell » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:29 pm wrote:
Eagle » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:10 pm wrote:Gravy added to Slobby and Mac. Endo as experienced squad depth. Midfield rebuild complete.

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Who is Fabinho's replacement?


Imagine it will be Gravy who plays as the main DM with Trent making it a double pivot when we have the ball. He's played in a double pivot at Ajax quite a bit. Here's a video of him doing it against us a few years ago.

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Postby Doeboy » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:36 pm

Eagle » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:23 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:29 pm wrote:
Eagle » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:10 pm wrote:Gravy added to Slobby and Mac. Endo as experienced squad depth. Midfield rebuild complete.


Who is Fabinho's replacement?


Imagine it will be Gravy who plays as the main DM with Trent making it a double pivot when we have the ball. He's played in a double pivot at Ajax quite a bit. Here's a video of him doing it against us a few years ago.



Not sure about him as a DM.....yet anyway. I don't think it's a role he stands out in as things stand but would maybe be more a work in progress.
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Postby Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:38 am

I would assume this is it when it comes to transfer for us. I see little point in keeping Thiago though as he will play so few games this season and in the last year of his deal.
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Postby Boocity » Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:02 pm

Started off well in the transfer market then FSG pulled what is increasingly seen as smoke screen with the big bid and ended totally underwhelming. Lets hope he is worth all the hype but I am not yet convinced.
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Postby devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:06 pm

£100m plus potential add ons of £50m offered  for Salah by the Saudi’s.

Admittedly it is only an opening bid and as expected it was rejected. So the question to the FSG haters is an easy one  given that you regard them as greed personified: How much will Salah be worth next summer with only a year left on his contract when he will be 32?
Net Spend Over The Last 5 Years 20/21 to 24/25  (10 years
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LFC €300m (€420m)
Everton +€33m (€211m)
Arsenal €557m (€853m)
Spurs €571m (€684m)
Chelsea €945m (€1051m)
Man City €370m (€1038m)
Man United €687m (€1240m)
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Postby Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:14 pm

And? It's not like FSG will EVER reinvest all of the 150 million they'd recoup anyway...
Just typical to reportedly have bid 115 million for Caciedo and to ACTAUALLY pay 16 million 30 year old nobody heard of.
FSG in a nutshell. Just full of hot air as always....
We are TENTH in net spend over the past 5 seasons in the PL FFS!
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Postby devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:22 pm

Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:14 pm wrote:And? It's not like FSG will EVER reinvest all of the 150 million they'd recoup anyway...
Just typical to reportedly have bid 115 million for Caciedo and to ACTAUALLY pay 16 million 30 year old nobody heard of.
FSG in a nutshell. Just full of hot air as always....
We are TENTH in net spend over the past 5 seasons in the PL FFS!


I wouldn’t have expected anything less even if you didn’t answer the very simple question  :laugh:

When Coutinho was sold they actual reinvested more than the fee they received from Barcelona. Let’s just forget that for the sake of a good story.
And let’s also forget that they paid £300m for a shambles of a club that was on its ***** end. Now look at the value of the club, the improvements to the ground, one of the best academy facilities in Europe, a world class manager and the small fact of what they have won. But you are more interested in what they have spent in net terms over the last 5 years. Yes somebody is full of hot air but it definitely isn’t them  :laugh:
Net Spend Over The Last 5 Years 20/21 to 24/25  (10 years
are in brackets 15/16 to 24/25 )
LFC €300m (€420m)
Everton +€33m (€211m)
Arsenal €557m (€853m)
Spurs €571m (€684m)
Chelsea €945m (€1051m)
Man City €370m (€1038m)
Man United €687m (€1240m)
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Postby Boocity » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:28 pm

devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:06 pm wrote:£100m plus potential add ons of £50m offered  for Salah by the Saudi’s.

Admittedly it is only an opening bid and as expected it was rejected. So the question to the FSG haters is an easy one  given that you regard them as greed personified: How much will Salah be worth next summer with only a year left on his contract when he will be 32?


If they come back with 130 or more i would sell him.
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Postby Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:30 pm

devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:22 pm wrote:
Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:14 pm wrote:And? It's not like FSG will EVER reinvest all of the 150 million they'd recoup anyway...
Just typical to reportedly have bid 115 million for Caciedo and to ACTAUALLY pay 16 million 30 year old nobody heard of.
FSG in a nutshell. Just full of hot air as always....
We are TENTH in net spend over the past 5 seasons in the PL FFS!


I wouldn’t have expected anything less even if you didn’t answer the very simple question  :laugh:

When Coutinho was sold they actual reinvested more than the fee they received from Barcelona. Let’s just forget that for the sake of a good story.
And let’s also forget that they paid £300m for a shambles of a club that was on its ***** end. Now look at the value of the club, the improvements to the ground, one of the best academy facilities in Europe, a world class manager and the small fact of what they have won. But you are more interested in what they have spent in net terms over the last 5 years. Yes somebody is full of hot air but it definitely isn’t them  :laugh:


Load of garbo. SAME playbook EVERY damn time americans take over a club. Huge fanfare with grand plans and slowly but surely less and less money is spent all the while brainwashing many supporters that all of a sudden profit margins and and being profitable is all part of a great plan and when they sign up to start a closed league to make even more money these same supporters try to defend these scumbags....
They saved club? F*** they did! They saw a business opportunity like many american "investment" firms and banks do to mulitply their investment.
WTF have they done in the past 5 years? The team that played in the CL final in 2018 was basically IDENTICAL to a team put out in 2022. Sure a few players have come in since then but the club spent like a bottom dweller for YEARS when the club what at the top costing the club at least a couple of more titles. AND WHY? Cause the owners a scumbags with ZERO interest or care for the game of football and only ONE thing matters to that lot...
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Postby Eagle » Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:53 pm

Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:30 pm wrote:
devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:22 pm wrote:
Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:14 pm wrote:And? It's not like FSG will EVER reinvest all of the 150 million they'd recoup anyway...
Just typical to reportedly have bid 115 million for Caciedo and to ACTAUALLY pay 16 million 30 year old nobody heard of.
FSG in a nutshell. Just full of hot air as always....
We are TENTH in net spend over the past 5 seasons in the PL FFS!


I wouldn’t have expected anything less even if you didn’t answer the very simple question  :laugh:

When Coutinho was sold they actual reinvested more than the fee they received from Barcelona. Let’s just forget that for the sake of a good story.
And let’s also forget that they paid £300m for a shambles of a club that was on its ***** end. Now look at the value of the club, the improvements to the ground, one of the best academy facilities in Europe, a world class manager and the small fact of what they have won. But you are more interested in what they have spent in net terms over the last 5 years. Yes somebody is full of hot air but it definitely isn’t them  :laugh:


Load of garbo. SAME playbook EVERY damn time americans take over a club. Huge fanfare with grand plans and slowly but surely less and less money is spent all the while brainwashing many supporters that all of a sudden profit margins and and being profitable is all part of a great plan and when they sign up to start a closed league to make even more money these same supporters try to defend these scumbags....
They saved club? F*** they did! They saw a business opportunity like many american "investment" firms and banks do to mulitply their investment.
WTF have they done in the past 5 years? The team that played in the CL final in 2018 was basically IDENTICAL to a team put out in 2022. Sure a few players have come in since then but the club spent like a bottom dweller for YEARS when the club what at the top costing the club at least a couple of more titles. AND WHY? Cause the owners a scumbags with ZERO interest or care for the game of football and only ONE thing matters to that lot...


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Postby bunglemark2 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:54 pm

Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:30 pm wrote:
devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:22 pm wrote:
Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:14 pm wrote:And? It's not like FSG will EVER reinvest all of the 150 million they'd recoup anyway...
Just typical to reportedly have bid 115 million for Caciedo and to ACTAUALLY pay 16 million 30 year old nobody heard of.
FSG in a nutshell. Just full of hot air as always....
We are TENTH in net spend over the past 5 seasons in the PL FFS!


I wouldn’t have expected anything less even if you didn’t answer the very simple question  :laugh:

When Coutinho was sold they actual reinvested more than the fee they received from Barcelona. Let’s just forget that for the sake of a good story.
And let’s also forget that they paid £300m for a shambles of a club that was on its ***** end. Now look at the value of the club, the improvements to the ground, one of the best academy facilities in Europe, a world class manager and the small fact of what they have won. But you are more interested in what they have spent in net terms over the last 5 years. Yes somebody is full of hot air but it definitely isn’t them  :laugh:


Load of garbo. SAME playbook EVERY damn time americans take over a club. Huge fanfare with grand plans and slowly but surely less and less money is spent all the while brainwashing many supporters that all of a sudden profit margins and and being profitable is all part of a great plan and when they sign up to start a closed league to make even more money these same supporters try to defend these scumbags....
They saved club? F*** they did! They saw a business opportunity like many american "investment" firms and banks do to mulitply their investment.
WTF have they done in the past 5 years? The team that played in the CL final in 2018 was basically IDENTICAL to a team put out in 2022. Sure a few players have come in since then but the club spent like a bottom dweller for YEARS when the club what at the top costing the club at least a couple of more titles. AND WHY? Cause the owners a scumbags with ZERO interest or care for the game of football and only ONE thing matters to that lot...

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Postby bunglemark2 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:57 pm

Boocity » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:28 pm wrote:
devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:06 pm wrote:£100m plus potential add ons of £50m offered  for Salah by the Saudi’s.

Admittedly it is only an opening bid and as expected it was rejected. So the question to the FSG haters is an easy one  given that you regard them as greed personified: How much will Salah be worth next summer with only a year left on his contract when he will be 32?


If they come back with 130 or more i would sell him.

Allegedly selling a few more camels and will come back with a 200M offer ..
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Postby devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:23 pm

Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:30 pm wrote:
devaney » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:22 pm wrote:
Penguins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:14 pm wrote:And? It's not like FSG will EVER reinvest all of the 150 million they'd recoup anyway...
Just typical to reportedly have bid 115 million for Caciedo and to ACTAUALLY pay 16 million 30 year old nobody heard of.
FSG in a nutshell. Just full of hot air as always....
We are TENTH in net spend over the past 5 seasons in the PL FFS!


I wouldn’t have expected anything less even if you didn’t answer the very simple question  :laugh:

When Coutinho was sold they actual reinvested more than the fee they received from Barcelona. Let’s just forget that for the sake of a good story.
And let’s also forget that they paid £300m for a shambles of a club that was on its ***** end. Now look at the value of the club, the improvements to the ground, one of the best academy facilities in Europe, a world class manager and the small fact of what they have won. But you are more interested in what they have spent in net terms over the last 5 years. Yes somebody is full of hot air but it definitely isn’t them  :laugh:


Load of garbo. SAME playbook EVERY damn time americans take over a club. Huge fanfare with grand plans and slowly but surely less and less money is spent all the while brainwashing many supporters that all of a sudden profit margins and and being profitable is all part of a great plan and when they sign   up to start a closed league to make even more money these same supporters try to defend scumbags....
They saved club? F*** they did! They saw a business opportunity like many american "investment" firms and banks do to mulitply their investment.  :laugh:
WTF have they done in the past 5 years? The team that played in the CL final in 2018 was basically IDENTICAL to a team put out in 2022. Sure a few players have come in since then but the club spent like a bottom dweller for YEARS when the club what at the top costing the club at least a couple of more titles. AND WHY? Cause the owners a scumbags with ZERO interest or care for the game of football and only ONE thing matters to that lot...



Your comments are so morose that I’m certainly not going to waste my time responding in detail. What I will say is the club needs FSG a lot more than it needs supporters like you. You are absolutely clueless and have the business acumen of an ant  :help
Net Spend Over The Last 5 Years 20/21 to 24/25  (10 years
are in brackets 15/16 to 24/25 )
LFC €300m (€420m)
Everton +€33m (€211m)
Arsenal €557m (€853m)
Spurs €571m (€684m)
Chelsea €945m (€1051m)
Man City €370m (€1038m)
Man United €687m (€1240m)
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