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by **Santa** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:33 pm

red till i die!! » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:32 pm wrote:
Santa » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:24 pm wrote:
leeroy74 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:49 pm wrote:I may be wrong here but this is a FIFA issue, not an FA issue so he shouldn't serve any ban in the league for his club should he? 2 separate organisations. have I dreamt that up?

What if he got hit with a worldwide ban, including ALL competitive and friendlies? I'm sure the power to be will find a way to push the dagger in and this time I'll see which fuk-kers will try to defend him. He might be a genius and wearing the Liverbird but this is a sport and such behaviour cannot be tolerated (not once, but 3 times now). My heart just sank I really have no good words to say about him

are you struggling to comprehend the difference between international and club ?
what if FIFA look at the evidence and decide he has nothing to answer for ? or only gets a 6-8 match ban ? will that be enough for you ?

You're smart so maybe you can tell me Einstein -- is FA a member of FIFA? and do you think the FA will be bound by the decision taken by FIFA? will this be simple & clear enough for you to understand? If you're caught doping during an international game, do you think your ban will not be extended to domestic league as well?

The Disciplinary Code and Code of Ethics specifically provide for the fact that they apply to all matches and competitions organised by FIFA. Any sanctions imposed by the either the Disciplinary or Ethics Committee may or may not be confined to a geographical location or category of game

FIFA disciplinary code does provides for sanction to have a worldwide effect if they deemed it to be a serious offence, so it will be up to the Disciplinary Committee to interpret what is "serious". Will this misdemeanour be considered serious enough to warrant such unprecedented action or would they consider repeat offences as "serious"? Is his action premeditated? If they think so, FIFA do have the power to ban him from ALL footballing activities, although I don't think they will take it to that level as there was no precedence to this. But the Disciplinary Committee will decide the scope and duration of the (if any) ban.

Do I want Suarez banned? heck a big fekin' NO!
Do I think Suarez is stupid? NO...I think he is mental. Those "I work hard to clean up my act because I want to be a good example to my kids boohoohoo" line don't wash anymore, especially to the press and those outside LFC and Uruguay
Do I want him banned? I hoped he get banned playing for Uruguay for the next 2 seasons so he can focus on our title quest
Do I still want him wearing our red shirt next season? 100% yes...because I want us to win the league and show a finger to the Mancs, and the dirty money from Russia and Arab
Do I think this baggage will make it hard for him to perform like he did this season? I hoped not but he will now likely to be subjected to prejudiced refereeing decision for the rest of his career
Do I think Suarez will cope with this? Definitely...don't think he give a fukk!

by **kazza** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:37 pm

It should be four games for violent conduct which would exclude him from this World Cup and rightly so. Any more would be a complete over reaction. I hate it when the press affects opinion and it happens a lot. English press have given this more airtime than even the Italian press, maybe something to do with what he said after the England match. It is a story elsewhere sure, but no where near the same hype as in England. Let the punishment fit the crime and the crime is he fights like a girl

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by **C-R** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:38 pm

kazza » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:37 pm wrote:It should be four games for violent conduct which would exclude him from this World Cup and rightly so. Any more would be a complete over reaction. I hate it when the press affects opinion and it happens a lot. English press have given this more airtime than even the Italian press, maybe something to do with what he said after the England match. It is a story elsewhere sure, but no where near the same hype as in England. Let the punishment fit the crime and the crime is he fights like a girl .

Thank you, some sense in a thread of madness, agree with this

by **red till i die!!** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:43 pm

[/quote]You're smart so maybe you can tell me Einstein -- is FA a member of FIFA? and do you think the FA will be bound by the decision taken by FIFA? will this be simple & clear enough for you to understand? If you're caught doping during an international game, do you think your ban will not be extended to domestic league as well?[quote]

the point you seem to be missing is that he will recieve an international ban for violent conduct which will not stretch to the premier league. the english fa will have no jurisdiction or power to enforce any other ban on him unless fifa give him a worldwide ban. which they wont :no

suarez is not charged with doping but a totally different matter that carries a completely different punishment which is usually a couple of match ban. the longest ban ever handed out under that charge was 8 matches so i fail to see how suarez should be subject to anything different just because he's luis suarez. the fact that he has also got previous wont matter because he was already punished by the relevant bodies at the time and only accounted to the league in which the offence was committed. was he banned from international matches either time ?, no he wasnt.
he will get the punishment that the rules allow but as long as the rules get tailored because of who he is then i will defend him. if that makes me a fuk-ker then so be it :rasp

by **Santa** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:37 pm

red till i die!! » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:43 pm wrote:the point you seem to be missing is that he will recieve an international ban for violent conduct which will not stretch to the premier league. the english fa will have no jurisdiction or power to enforce any other ban on him unless fifa give him a worldwide ban. which they wont

Oh...ok...so you have insight into the decision of what FIFA Disciplinary Committee will do. I total get it now :laugh:

No I agree I don't think he will get a worldwide ban. Just because we think he might not or he won't get ban doesn't mean there are no provision within the FIFA Disciplinary Committee decision to do so...that's what I'm trying to say. I'm not advocating for this T*ss*r to get banned just because he is our very own resident idiot!

by **damjan193** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:16 pm

Stu, you're dead right about this one mate. I don't think he's family or anything, and I agree with the people who say that he has brought shame to our club, but I don't give a damn to be honest because he's our only chance of actually achieving something. Also, are his acts more shameful than brother's wife *****, deliberate career ending tackles, beating up fans in the middle of a game etc? If people think that biting is worse than these things then they need their heads checked.

by **Mikz** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:10 pm

Never heard so much ***** , its not as if he finished the guys career or even put him out of the game, and i dont think hes rabid or whatever - hes just gave them Fuel for revenge for knocking england out .
If he ever rams the boot in a wee ballboy or opposing fan we can throw the book at him then .

by **eds** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:31 am

Stu the Red » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:25 pm wrote:I think he's a disgrace and needs locking up with murderers and rapists and child abusers. Hes such a bad horrible person and the death penalty is the only fit course of action.

I mean, poor Chiellini... The lad has lost everything. And its all down to Suarez.
What must the poor Italian be thinking? I bet he will never play again...

Keep up the good work Stu, you have the silent majority on your side.

Incredible the hysterical muppet behaviour on this forum. :no

Swayed like the lemmings they are by a bias and agenda driven English media :no

No one is defending his actions, but to want him out of the club because he obviously has mental issues and we can't "handle" it is just fkn clueless!

by **eds** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:37 am

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:44 pm wrote:Lets be honest with ourselves here lads ,its not 'normal' is it ? I mean this type of action is only usually seen at a straightener....to my mind its
never been seen at the biggest tournament in world football ,and possibly not the occasion to select to make its debut

As soon as Luis done that against Italy my first thought was what an absolute' Dickhead' ,and if it wasn't for the sublime football he plays
whilst in the red of Liverpool I wouldn't give a flying f*ck where he ended up ....My second, and far more disturbing was to genuinely feel for the lad
because he so needs treatment ,and he needs it rapidly ,and its obviously something he cant control .

I'm sorry, if I'm a little curt in my opinion ,but I've backed Luis from day one ,but bringing your teeth down on an opponent or indeed spitting are two
of the most cowardly acts even in Sunday League football ,and if I was the victim I would land an uppercut so hard on the perpetrator that his country
would have to wait until 2018 for all the pieces of his jaw to fucking land.

I mean the lad seriously needs treatment ,because the actual extent of loss of control is quite frankly disquieting ,and when he does it repeatedly
its a serious issue ,the fact his latest and most public indiscretion was played out in front of a quite colossal world audience simply points to the
need for serious contemplation both from the club and the lad himself.

Maybe a record ban from all International football would suffice and hurt sufficiently enough to draw the importance of his affliction into
his own 'little world' and the one he currently resides in ,but whatever censure befalls him ,this issue needs to be addressed.

Disclaimer : I love Luis Suarez the 'footballer' for the sorcery he gifts us on the ball ,I just wouldn't ask him to go for a bevy with me and
the lads ,because if you want your night to run smoothly you simply don't invite short fused loons into your company

Finally some fkn common sense in this mass hysteria....... :nod

by **Soupyzrx** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:36 am

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I still think he'll be off to Spain this summer.
Barca and Real may not want the bad image, but their moral compasses might get recalibrated in order to accommodate such a rare talent.
He might be a bit of a nut, but he's a brilliant nut. I think they'll make allowances for him.
As I said, I really hope I'm wrong but.......
I guess we can speculate further once FIFA tell us what's gonna happen to him. Then maybe Brendan and FSG will share their thoughts too.

by **killerp** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:27 am

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_ ... ful-player

Long but interesting read about our crazy striker....

by **Sabre** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:10 am

One well know psychiatrist in Spain Dr Cabrera says that this behaviour will be repeated and it cannot be considered a mental illness. It's a pattern of behaviour that normally have it's roots in the childhood (which it wasn't probably an easy one) a so called "defence-attack" mechanism. And it will repeated probably.

That might be a blessing for Liverpool if it stops plastic clubs from deploying big offers. What he did is wrong, a red card, but all the media drama is something I don't get, it's not even the first time it happens in football pic.twitter.com/u8wa3PfAZB

My defence is not because he is a Liverpool player only but because I do find more terrible some nasty tackles that do end the careers of players.

by **Boocity** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:21 am

http://www.marca.com/2014/06/25/en/football/international_football/1403721609.html

by **C-R** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:39 am

The independent disciplinary panel, chaired by Swiss lawyer Claudio Sulser, has a range of sanctions available, up to a 24-match ban or two-year suspension from all football.

by **leeroy74** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:40 am

He's a genius. He is right up there with the best and he plays for Liverpool. He wears the red shirt and he contributed to our great season last season and given the chance he'll do the same again next season because he is a winner. However, he has issues that can't be accepted on the field. He is not a violent person, he does not set out to end anyone's career with a bad tackle and he is not the animal the media portray him to be.

WORSE THINGS HAPPEN ON A FOOTIE PITCH!

He is however our star man and while ever he wears that red shirt he'll get my backing through good and bad.
The media can make him out to be an animal but they hate the fact he plays for Liverpool and lets face it, he's a bit good!

Luis Suarez - take your punishment and get back on that Anfield grass and do what you do best.
Giorgio Chiellini - grow a pair you soft sh!tehouse. you were nearly in tears, have a word!
English Media - hope you burn to the ground you vultures.

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